How do people enjoy playing Wesker?

Wesker’s survivor collision size maybe needing to be a bit larger (which will probably happen since the devs confirmed they’re still monitoring it and the feedback seems to be pretty universal it’s a bit too small), Wesker’s ability has some nice features

• The two Bounds combined have a max range of about 21 meters, slightly longer than Deathslinger’s shots. Like Deathslinger or Huntress you probably have to lead your Bound slightly toward where you think the survivor is going versus where they currently are, but players who can consistently hit at long range with Deathslinger could probably use similar muscle memory to hit at long range with Wesker.
• Bounds can go around corners. This lets him potentially hit shots that other ranged attackers can’t.
• He can occasionally get instant carries on full health survivors who are also fully infected. Yes, there are about a dozen antidotes, but after a few minutes when five or six antidotes are used up it becomes increasingly more likely one or two of the survivors won’t have one in time and will become fully infected, and the longer the game goes on the more likely this is. Also fully infected survivors are Hindered 8% on their movement which is definitely noticeable.
• Although his ability to vault in a Bound is situational, the places where it’s useful happen to be strong vaults and god pallets in larger loops where the survivor can’t quickly loop back to the other side when Wesker vaults after them. So even though this part of the ability is less frequently used it happens to be strongest where basic attack killers are typically weakest.
• His Bound is also somewhat useful for long distance map traversal. He does lose access to the Bound for an attack afterward, but that’s not much different to how Blight loses access to his Rush after traveling with it (other than obviously Blight can go farther on multiple Rushes than the 21 meters Wesker can Bound.

I remain convinced that once the collision size is ironed out he’ll be mid- or maybe high-A tier. And I also suspect players who don’t try to overuse his Bound at tighter, smaller loops but use it as a zoning instrument similar to how Deathslinger or Demo or Pyramid Head can zone people away from strong tiles will have good results with him versus the players that try and land Bounds on literally every chase and loop.

The main complaints I see about his strengths are seemingly from people trying to play him like other killers - Most notably Demo. I get it they both have dash attacks but both need to be used in completely different situations.

If I were to simplify Wesker by the most basic factors.

• Wesker is an M1 killer
• His power is great for cutting survivors off out in the open and for forcing them to run the opposite direction at certain pallets
• Infection can actually be used as a game delay tool where you encourage survivors to waste time going for First Aid Sprays

Overall though - I agree with you. His power is fun to use and I feel in a great spot right now being not too weak and not too strong. The only factor I'd complain about is the bugs his power has along with some collision snags on various maps. For example I personally find it difficult to hug walls on Ormand and Dead Dawg killer shack. Both have a lot of stuff that will snag you so using the power there is a bad idea generally at least in standard situations.

Voicelines are cool

Throw survivors haha funny

He go vroom for long distance

Edit: his power is also extremely satsifying to use when it lands. The sounds, the voicelines, NOT the buggy animations, etc. I just wish they’d fix his bugs, but I’m sure they will.

How are they unoriginal? What other killers have a medium ranged attack, or a command grab?

But does it damage people?

I've enjoyed playing him so far, but I'm also not facing against pro survivors yet I don't think.

I will add though that he is definitely buggy, there have been MULTIPLE occassions where I actually literally GRAB a survivor, see the animation go off, about to slam them into a wall or object or something, and the game glitches out and the survivor is not only dropped but they don't even take any damage at all.... it counts as if I didn't even land my grab at all, despite actually seeing the animation successfully begin to go off shrugs

Honestly if they would just fix the bugs with his grab, and maybe add a TINY bit more hit box for it, I would be overall pretty happy with him as a Killer, I think he's fun. Reminds me of a weaker Blight that's easier to play lol, don't have to dash into walls and #########.

He needs his hit box and bugs looked at. I don't even think the hit box size is the problem, it's just that the hit detection on his dashes seem to sometimes not work properly. Maybe the hit box also needs to be increased just slightly, but not higher than 25 cm in my opinion, but the biggest problem seems to be that his hit detection is just a bit bugged.

When it comes to balance though, Wesker is in a pretty much perfect spot. And do not mistake, I am sure most people agree with that, considering many people agreed that he was somewhere in A tier during the ptb, and he had more trouble at loops there because of his bigger collision box.

He is definitely strong. At some loops, his power doesn't help. The more circular shaped loops are rough for Wesker. But there are more than enough loops, like T-L walls or Jungle Jyms, where his ability is definitely helpful.

He is also particularly strong in between loops, when survivors try to get from one loop to another. A bit like Blight. His balance aspects, especially his long charge time, are absolutely essential to not make him overpowered, with too little counterplay on the survivors side. Right now survivors have a good and fair amount of counterplay against Wesker, and that is a good thing, because that's what makes a killer fun to go against as well.

I think his anti-loop is one of the best designed anti-loop abilities in the game.

Yeah, I don't think it needs to be as big as it was on the PTB, but I've seen a bunch of clips now of Wesker just straight up passing through survivors so I think it does need to be larger than 20 cm.

Well the question here is, is that because of the 20 cm hit box, or because of some faulty hit detection that we didn't notice in the ptb, because in the ptb his hitbox had the size of a truck?

That's why I wonder if they really need to increase his hitbox, or if they just need to fix some bugs about his hit box. If they do just increase the hitbox size, I personally think 25 cm could already be enough, but I'd probably also be fine with the middle ground, which is 30 cm. Anything above 30 cm would be too much though in my opinion, considering it was 40 cm in the ptb.

At most pallet loops, vaulting will only get you a hit if the survivor is right at the pallet. If they only have a bit of distance, they will make it around the loop back to the pallet again, before you can hit them. If the survivors play it right that is.

Which is a good thing, because that does create some nice mindgames, especially at undropped pallets, because if you as a survivor are at a pallet, you will want to predict whether Wesker will use his dash immediately, in which case you want to drop the pallet immediately, since he can't vault until the pallet drop animation is finished, or if he will wait until you dropped the pallet, to then vault it, in which case you either want to wait with dropping the pallet, or keep running, depending on the shape of the loop of course.

I do agree that his power is quite good at zoning. If they do increase his hit box size, or fix the bugs with it, whatever is causing the issues, I could see them maybe loweing his movement speed during the cooldown after using his dashes, to make the zoning part just a tad weaker. But that might also not be necessary.

He is very popular compared to other killers we got lately. I don't think that will change soon.

Besides that he is strong too. Not S-tier, but low A-tier or highest B-tier. Yes he is no Nurse or Blight in loops but he can get save hits on vaults while he still has distance (compared to more basic m1 killers), you can also use his power to travel short distances and for zoning survivors. Throwing them around is quite fun and if you actually hit 2 it feels super satisfying. 8% Hinderance is a death sentence and survivors need to spray themselves.

But yea playing around loops is kinda difficult if there is more than a 90 degrees angle, like i said he is no Blight or Nurse for sure. Still better than Onryu and much more fun to verse than Dredge.

When you get lucky and dont get screwed by bugs and the small hitbox he is very fun.

Interesting to see map mobility on him being pointed out in your post. Has your experiences changed with him since this post?

I really, really don't get the complaints. I played him exclusively yesterday and I don't see most of the issues people seem to be going on about. I mean, if there is this much people complaining then I am probably in the wrong, but despite some of the casual collision issues he is still great for mobility and can cut off loops with enough precision.

Wesker is a very good killer. If you think Virulent Bound sucks then you're making poor use of it.

He's only hampered by technical issues, his core mechanics once the bugs are ironed out are very sound.

Wesker has power-breaking bugs that make him weak.

Sadako isn’t bugged, she just has an underwhelming kit.

I value my life, no thanks.