Survivors are really bad. Do better.

I'm an Iridescent killer and a bronze survivor. Bro the difference like my teammates in survivor are totally useless my opponents when I play killer are apparently proteges of Splinter Cell Sam Fisher. And the survivors I actually team with in my lame ass bronze ranks are the ones calling for killer nerfs like ######### bro no.

You suck.

Survivors beat my Nurse.

My Artist will get stomped.

Cenobite will wish he were back in hell..

Stop asking for killer nerfs because you couldn't do that "one cool thing" your fellow toxic survivor main streamer did. Just play the game and get better.

This is going to be an extremely hard pill to swallow, but its always much easier to focus on bad teammates as a way to excuse bad play from ourselves. Bad teammates can and will ruin games regularly, its the nature of teams in PVP in genreal, but thats something we all have to deal with. Even if meg stood in front of myers poking him in the chest waiting for him to get T3, that one dwight keeps leading chases vs bubba right back to a hooked survivor, nea's urban evading in a corner somewhere, all that means is that you aren't able to carry them. **which is perfectly ok.**

The most important thing is whether you can get out of that game and honestly answer yourself if you could have done anything better, and use that as your point of evaluation. You might have played great but made a pretty big mistake at one point, which might have even been the catalyst to the loss even if the rest of your play was very good. Thats the kind of thing you want to focus on with those kinds of losses. If there isn't anything, just go next.

I just honestly feel like a lot of people's frustration with solo queue is a combination of being upset with bad plays from teammates, but also from their teammates not carrying them. And many can't tell the difference, which then causes them to have the same effect on other survivors, and so on.

Nah, I always play Plunderer Ace the times I happen to play survivor. 🙂 (Plunderer's Instinct, Open-Handed, Ace in the Hole, Appraisal). I bring in a toolbox, head straight for a gen near a chest, use up the tools, then open the chest and hope I don't get a flashlight or key. (Or if I do I Rummage for something else.) Then I keep playing, using my tools or med kit or maybe map as chance permits, and get a new item when they run out. It's definitely not a meta loadout or anything but there's something fun about digging for loot and using what I find. 😄

That said I do like to use the brown toolbox add-on that prevents skill checks for the tool use. One less thing to worry about when I use up that first one!

The frustration is understandable but I fail to understand the connection between a bad teammate and killers tunneling and camping.

Some of those complaints come from people who do gens, people who do take aggro, people who do heal and go for saves.

Like, just because one is frustrating doesn’t mean the other is a result of that. Especially considering that most killers camp those who run them for a longer amount of time. So I don’t see how bad survivors are “asking for it”.

Also...

You said "I did all 5 gens"...well maybe that's the issue. Sitting on gens entire game is NOT carrying. If you see your teammates struggling with chases maybe you should let them do the gens while you go for unhooks and take the aggro from the killer?

I'm Iridescent 1 and still find a lot of this kind of survivors that's just running around, not doing gen, hiding in the lockers for 5 years, attempting to unhook themselves, dropping every pallet

People forget that this game is extremely niche and the way to play it efficiently isn't something the tutorial tries to teach you in any meaningful capacity.

When I picked up this game I literally thought it was hide and seek for the first year I played it. Then I randomly saw a noob3 video recommended in my YT feed. Up to that point I had no idea you could even play the game like that lol

For the first year I played this game I was a solo survivor who thought urban evasion was the best perk in the game second only to self care lmao

Prestige really isn't a good metric for how experienced a player is going to be in a killer or survivor role. Example: I'm a killer main with a survivor at P3. I have 500+ hours as killer, but I've played maybe 6-7 games as survivor and am pretty terrible at it.. I just dump points into the survivors occasionally for the rare occasion that I try them out...someday I do intend to play survivor seriously, but I still have goals to hit on the killer side.

The inverse can be true as well, especially with the new prestige system and particularly for survivors. Someone may have most of the other survivors at P3 and is very experienced in playing survivor, but has just started prestiging that particular one, so they may have hundreds or even thousands of hours in, but just haven't spent any BP on that particular toon. So that P0 in your lobby is actually a superstar.

Hours played is a similar situation. If someone sees my survivor in their lobby, looks to see hundreds of hours played, and expects me to be competent in that match, they are in for a rude awakening.