I thought Spirit was supposed to be common after Iron Will nerf?
That has not been in the case for me at all. She is still super rare. People freaked out about her when Iron Will got nerfed but that was a major overreaction. The game will be in a much better state if the queen was played more, and I know that for a fact.
Also yes, I’m still the same person that you recognize, just made some changes to my forum name is all. Gann is officially trademarked (TM) lol.
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Yeah I still don’t see Spirits in my games wth.
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I have a lot Spirits in my games and i hate it. I miss the days when she was not that popular :(
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Embrace her
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I still get her and want her back to her old self
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I don’t miss the days when people asked to nerf her everyday.
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Advertising and branding.
You need to make her popular to the casuals if you want to see more of her.
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I've only faced like 2 spirits since the patch
rare killer like hillbilly now
A lot of it could stem that spirit isn't really a casual killer? like an average person probably won't play her
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I don't think Iron Will is really what made people stop picking her as much. I know it wasn't the reason I stopped playing her.
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gann how many times need I remind you to come to EU and take all of these spirits off my hands because its such a snoozefest over here
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A part of me still don't want more of her but idk
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Thank the fog for that. With the directional audio during her phasing at least there is some counterplay to her around pallets so she isn't just her old turn off your brain and easy 4k and as an extension she is less often picked. Also, she is still very likely to elicit a DC on her first down, so some players who actually want to play the game will pick someone more satisfying. Pulling off a tricky flick or predicting the survivors as a nurse feels far more rewarding than just instantly catching up with them.
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I have played on EU servers many times lately though. Still barely see her and more often go against sweaty boring Nurses.
Nothing about Nurse is rewarding. And anyone DCing against Spirit now need to get good.
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I dont see many spirits, maybe 2 per day. But every game is a pain against her due to Iron Will nerf, maybe around 70% chance we lose.
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I've ran into a few but everytime I do they have dcb or mdr
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wow, what a weird coincidence that a killer that got nerfed into uselessness is played far less resulting in much less killer variety, I wonder if there’s a lesson to be learned here, who can say
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All hail the cult of the Spirit Ass may her bum guide us to glory and happiness.
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I see more spirits now but not enough that I would call it a lot. She still sucks to play against though because most people still play spirit as a hard proxy camper.
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She’s literally still strong wym?
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I very rarely encounter her, sadly. I miss the Mind game chases with her. I encountered one for the first time in weeks the other day on Dead Dawg, and she slaughtered us all. Felt good to see her in action tbh
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Fact of the matter is that she’s not as easy to play as the forum posters who hated her wanted everyone to believe. She takes skill, especially if you don’t have fantastic headphones and a lot of good add-ons.
Besides, there are easier killers to play if all you want to do is tunnel.
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Well, she is in a pretty good spot with Iron Will gone. I’d put her 3rd or 4th on the tier list. But even so, I’m not interested in playing her. We have 29 Killers now, and Spirit’s power just doesn’t excite me compared to others.
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Many probably don't play her because she is 110% so that makes her hard killer you have to rely to her power to get hits. If she gets buffed to 115% she could be more popular.
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I am still baffled by the fact that she was dropped by so many people after her rework. She was still an excellent killer and performed just as well as she always did. I'm starting to see her a little bit more now but It's still nowhere near how it used to be.
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I've recently come back to playing her in the last few days. She was one of the first killers I tried out but abandoned because I struggled with her. Now with a better foundation of the game under me, she's definitely starting to pay dividends. Usually I'm running dual charge speed addons, or sometimes movement speed addons. The mobility and semi-stealth gameplay is a blast.
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@GannTM Whats your favorite spirit build? I have played her a fair bit, but never totally got the hang of her power. The few times it clicked were a thing of beauty, though. And yeah, I know that Mother/Daughter ring is as much a crutch on her as old DH was for many players, so I never touch those. I love to run poor and often looked down upon Predator as a sort of training wheels, though, as it helps me a lot in pinpointing a moving target.
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Yeah I never see her. My games seem to be all Wesker, Legion, Blight, and Huntress lately
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BRB, will play Toxic Knockout Spirit.
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She's about average on the aggregate site (3% pick rate). Keep in mind with almost 30 killers you're only going to see most killers once every 30 matches or less.
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Just because the Hard Counter got changed doesn't mean the Spirit nerfs magically vanished.
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Yes! The version of her that had a perfect amount of counterplay for both sides.
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I’d recommend this build for Spirit: Plaything Pentimento Shattered Hope and a perk of your choice. Speed and duration will work best with it.
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Even though Spirit is strong, she is quite boring. The only interesting thing about her power is its weakness (not being able to see survivors). Meanwhile, it's effect is simply... she gets faster. That's pretty much it. Sure, she gets invisible, but since the directional sound makes hard for her to surprise survivors, it's not that cool. Being a slow killer with the power of simply getting much faster temporarily doesnt' feel very fun. If anything, it feels quite bland and boring.
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It may not be fun to you but it’s fun to me.
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I get that, but one thing many people used to like about Spirit was the mindgame factor of her power. Not much of it is left, so I get why people haven't returned to play her.
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Bit of history, my dear @GannTM
I like Spirit. I do. I like playing her. In fact, I used to play her a lot before her nerf.
Did I stop because of her nerf? No. That's not the reason. In fact, that change was everything I was asking for... well, almost everything glares at MDR
No. Spirit is the single killer I've gotten the most hate mail against. More than Twins and Nurse combined. Game after game, I was called various slurs and ridiculed. I've struggled with many personal issues such as social anxiety and depression, and the messages just... hurt.
Sure, I turned off my messages but the damage is done. I just... can't enjoy Spirit like I used to. I play her occasionally but I guess the experience is just ruined for me. Ironically, this has caused me to play a lot meaner in games because I just do not care anymore.
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There was counter play just nobody wanted to take the time to learn it. When does she enter phase pay attention to her hair and her idle animation to reset, how do you counter you have to mindgame her at loops or and this one is stupid but, it works run around in different directions and she has a harder time tracking you.
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as i said before she isn't played for various reasons:
1 she's overall unfun/boring (but this can by applied for every killer in the roster if survivors have a particular hatred toward a specific killer... in my case i just found her really boring and cluncky)
2 she's weak imo (no real antiloop abilities, 2 windows are enough to completely counter her without much troubles)
3 there are better choices if you want play to win (nurse/blight)
4 there are killers more fun to play (this is based from each individual)
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Unlucky.
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She is still high A tier easily but hell no she wasn't and isn't performing just as well as she always did, especially not before the big July update! Iron Will allowed many weak links to get bailed out against her especially with the audio bug that she had for 2 months, it was also extremely common to see 3-4 IWs in consecutive lobbies.
She's 1000000% still great after the rework but lets not act like shes dunking on the best teams right now the way the old Stridor Spirit with MDR/Prayer Beads/Father's Glasses or any other strong addon was
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I played her yesterday for a dailly if that helps.
She's just really hard for me and i enjoy other killers more
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It sucks, I kinda hoped so. Makes my day to face Spirit after Spirit, such a fun killer to face imo
I promise shes still a blast to play with her nerfs!
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Who told you that? Iron will didnt stop people from playing her. And Iron will nerf didnt make other people magically start playing her as well.
Also, why would we want more people playing spirit?
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She's never been a highly played killer + she definitely isn't "super rare". She's almost always in the top 10 of everyone' killer encounter stats.
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I've definitely seen her a lot more lately than before. I also play her quite a bit, since I always found her fun
I tried doing with her the 6 hooks while using only Stridor and man does that perk throw me off so much though. Always hated Stridor spirit, as and vs (and pre nerf it was definitely one of the most unfair things in the game)
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I play her to see her. Then again i love playing her so i dont mind. Mostly i see wesker wesker wesker wesker nurse nurse wesker and some random popular killers.
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She is still too awkward for me to enjoy playing with her.
It's annoying not being able to see who you're trying to chase and they knowing exactly where you are even though they should not be able to.
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So what you are telling me is that I can call myself "The Man" now?
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If you want to lol. I’d prefer to leave my old name in the past.
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Spirit is not the S tier killer the community living in pre-2021 remembers. I never thought she was to begin with, but you know, at least she was picked back then.
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