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Is this bannable?

Just had a game against a plague that was trying to 3gen from the start of the match refusing to leave the area even for a chase.

Even after injuring someone, she dropped the chase as soon as surv left the area and went back to the 3gen.

It's literally unwinnable scenario.

Comments

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 2,982

    Nope not in the slightest. They aren't preventing you from progressing the game (like body blocking the final 2 survivors in poorly designed corner) and vice versa. They just have an extremely advantageous area that spawned while they played plague. Now if either of your teammates, you and the plague did nothing to progress the game then I guess it could possibly be taking the game hostage.

  • shiroo
    shiroo Member Posts: 178

    Thanks for your extensive and deep response. Care to explain how survivors are suppose to counter this if those 3 gens are super close to each other and they don't even get a chance to break it from the start of the game?

  • shiroo
    shiroo Member Posts: 178

    Again,

    care to explain how are survivors suppose to complete one of those gens then if they can't counter it from the start of the game? She literally dropped every chase from the start once someone left the area.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 2,982

    I doubt they were so close that all 3 gens was within a plagues puking distance if she stood in the middle of them. Its just a cat a mouse game of 2 survivors continuously run back and forth between the 2 farthest gens. Plague on her own isn't much of a threat but if you guys cleansed near there giving her red puke it becomes much harder but then you can wait it out.

    Either way its not completely unbeatable considering people have won 3 gens vs a hag which is arguably better than plagues at 3 gens unless they have a pool nearby.

  • shiroo
    shiroo Member Posts: 178

    In this scenario there was no winning option. All 3 gens were super close to each other. That's a forced 3gen with no counterplay.

    Funny how all the NO comments are from killer mains.

  • shiroo
    shiroo Member Posts: 178

    What part of "super close" u didn't understand? Obviously it wasn't in a puking distance but it wouldn't take more than 20 seconds to go around all 3 of them.

    It's not a cat and mouse game because she wasn't taking any chases if someone tried to lead her away from the gens.

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 5,626
    edited September 2022

    I was in a game like this once but it was a good solo team. If she's not hooking because she wants to stay in the 3 gen, then target those gens first. Two on one gen and two on the other. It'll probably take forever because of all the back and forth bs (it sucked with how long it took) but it can be done.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 2,982

    No its because it literally doesn't violate any rules? They're playing the game and aren't afk'ing if you're trying to do the gens and they chase you off and are constantly patrolling them. Being a main doesn't have anything to do with it the response.

  • Chaos999
    Chaos999 Member Posts: 869

    Sorry if you don't like the answer, but "no counterplay" and "impossible to win" is not the same as holding the game hostage. Besides, honestly, I would hardly call that situation unwinnable. 4 healthy survivors with few or no hook states can definitely brute force their way through this.

    Perhaps it would be different if it were trapper or hag, but against plague, it's definitely possible, although not easy.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,783

    It doesn't violate any rules, so it is not bannable.

  • Bran
    Bran Member Posts: 2,096

    If the survivors can understand it's a 3gen you just gotta force the progress on the gens. All you can do. Whether you get pushed away just to come back or not.

  • My_Aespa
    My_Aespa Member Posts: 545

    Don't 3 gen yourself, that's the survivor's fault. The killer has nothing else to do so they will do their objective and guard the gens.

  • SpaghettiVase
    SpaghettiVase Member Posts: 341

    Just because you dont like the answer doesn’t mean they are wrong. 3 gens are beatable, even against plague. If its a solo queue game and you or your teammates aren’t up to snuff to handle it then sorry about your bad luck.

  • _kostas_pap_207
    _kostas_pap_207 Member Posts: 453

    No. She holds the game hostage but not in a cheating way. This is how the survivors preferred to play

  • TheArbiter
    TheArbiter Member Posts: 2,615

    "We finished the gens in a way that made a 3 gen for the killer, clearly the killer is cheating and must be banned"

    Honestly this is both hilarious to read, but also sad to see that someone thinks this way

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,439

    As others have said, even the closest 3 gen vs hag is beatable. If that is the case then plague is a nothing.

  • Madjura
    Madjura Member Posts: 2,460

    "Survivors caused the 3-gen themselves" is a meme that needs to die. The Killer can see all generators and pick three to defend as soon as the game starts. If a Killer wants to go for a 3-gen as soon as the game starts they can do so and there is nothing Survivors can do about that.

    🦆🦂

  • Thrax
    Thrax Member Posts: 974

    you have to make her want to risk it to hook you


    be a stereotypical annoying survivor

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    Yes, when the killer goes for the 3-gen right from the start, it's not the survivors fault. BUT, when the survivors do not take care which gens they finish, they can indeed "3-gen themselves"! I have way more killer games where the survivors hand the 3-gen to me than me forcing the 3-gen on the survivors (maybe aroung 80%-20%). It just bores me to protect a 3-gen from the start.

    Regardless of that, trying to protect a 3-gen against four survivors usually fails for the killer in the long run. Against three survivors, it's manageable, but against four, you won't succeed unless they screw up or give up. It's even more difficult with CoH in the game.

    I once had a game against a hag protecting her 3-gen from the start. We were down to the last gen, with three survivors remaining (all soloQ). We took many, many hits, but could always reset at the CoH boon, that was far away from the 3-gen. Eventually we broke the 3-gen and two got out of a gate.

    So it's definitely possible to break through a 3-en, even if enforced from the start. Sure it won't work every time, but with competent team mates it's very much doable, esp. when the killer does not want to chase.