General Discussions
General Discussions
Nurse hate.
...has died down, it really needs to come back.
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No. We really don’t need more nurse threads. yawn ,next.
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Well she's still playable so...yeah.
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um.. yea.. she’s a killer in the game, of course she’s playable. What?
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Agreed.
The only people who think Nurse is balanced are the diehard Nurse mains.
Everyone else knows she needs to be changed.
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Exactly she's a killer in the game, but she shouldn't be. So yeah, that's kinda the point.
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I just want someone to find a game breaking bug on Nurse so BHVR can kill switch the woman for a month or maybe more.
man remember when she got killswitched it was a good time to play SoloQ survivor granted there were still some issues yes as always while playing SoloQ but you used to see more killer variety which was refreshing.
now the only killer I see is this broken toy with Agitation + Starstruck plus Midwich offering to make sure the sweats that are playing her 4ks at 5 gens against a SoloQ team.
some people here are fine with the idea of Nurse being the strongest killer in the game for 6 years now in others PvP games the meta always change and is rarely stale(Look at overwatch)in DbD fking Nurse was and still is meta 6 years after her release which is MIND-BOGGLING right ?
Granted double shield meta lasted for like 2 years in Overwatch but still top 500 players knew that this meta was boring so sometimes you could see the old classic Rein + Zarya duo or some one of my favorite tanks duos was Sigma + Hammond,now even in higher ELOs you see alot of variety double bubble (Winston + Zarya) etc lot of fun comps...
anyways yes BHVR pls nerf Sally ty.
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Lol another nurse thread.
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Most Nurse games i play are pretty horrible.
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Oh I still want to see some good nurse nerfs. I really don’t understand how she hasn’t been nerfed/reworked yet. Why do the devs refuse to take action?
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That's just how the DBD community works, a few months ago it was Blight and his addons, then Artist and DMS, then Bubba and his facecamping, then AFK Pig, then Legion after his rework, then Nurse. Now we're in a transition phase where we're all searching for a killer to hate, wouldn't be surprised to see something like Condemned Sadako here.
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It has pretty consistently been nurse for years and years. There has never been a time where nurse hasn't been complained about, deservedly so, of course.
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It really isn't. I've been playing this game since 2018 and the only time Nurse was consistently complained about was before her rework a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/XZTHHELEHrA put on 21:30, just an example of a content creator saying she was fine not too long ago.
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That very video: "nurse is one of the biggest problems dbd has, she gatekeeps many of the developers decisions."
I've been around just as long as you.
She has always been viewed as too strong, so....
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Her rounds r always awful, so unbalanced and broken nobody even tries in solo queue against her
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y'all have never even tried to learn how to play against her. Just cry and moan until your 'problem' is fixed. The only thing all this complaining is doing is producing more complaining, which amplifies how strong she is to an absurd degree. This constant 'Nurse OP, gg go next' mentality is only harming your own experience, fun, and skill. Learn how to play against a non-M1 killer and stop treating every nurse match as a hopeless endeavor that will only end in a 4k.
If you actually put in effort to play against a nurse, your dbd experience would be way more enjoyable.
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Nurse is disgusting
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The fact that Nurse is complained due to good players playing her... what about if bad players played her (insert comment here)
It's almost like Ruin... it's old effect made newer players frustrated, had little effect on older players... now it doesn't last the first chase
Old Nurse made newer players frustrated, had a decent effect on older players... now players give up when facing her
This game really takes the cake for how bad the whining, (word I can't type right now) and complaining... rather then trying to come up with something to do against her... While I say that I also believe that she does need a change
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Hate Nurse is just a Twitter trend that comes and go.
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Can you imagine one month of dbd without nurse?
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Nah. She's fine. Stay maldy.
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Survivors would move on to the next thing to complain about probably Twins
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Everyone knows she's broken unfair but since the devs don't seem to care people have stopped spamming Nurse hate.
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Hahah twins. I havent seen twins since last fall
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Players much better, with way more hours, and more experience in the game than you realize Nurse is not good for balance. You should just listen to them.
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If Nurse gets nerfed which killer will survivors start on after that? If I recall correctly it went Legion,Nurse, Spirit, Deathslinger, Hillbilly(for some reason) and now we're back to Nurse.
As long as survivors lose games there's always going to be demands to nerf this killer or that one. I honestly don't even pay it attention anymore.
Where were all these demands to nerf post nerf Nurse when Spirit and Deathslinger were the flavor of the month? She's literally the same character.
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Don't make stories. There hasn't been a time when nurse hasn't been the strongest killer (OP), and there hasn't been a time when nurse hasn't been complained about.
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Unpopular opinion:
Nurse is really a hard killer to play well. If you have put the time, patience and effort into mastering her, good for you..you deserve to destroy teams.
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Hours played hardly means anything. But anyway, there are also players much better than I am that think nurse is not a problem, and not in need of a nerf. I like to say I'm alright at the game. I'm on a comp team, we do pretty well at tournaments. Our captain currently has the world record blight winstreak, somewhere around 570. Personally, I've had a 290+ Surv winstreak with some other team members. If you wanna see his blight winstreak for yourself, you can find him on twitch at momoseventh.
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Look him up on twitch. Im not talking nonsense.
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Damn bro you really owned me there. Idk what point your trying to make but yea, thats him.
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Seemed like you were trying to make a snarky comment tbh
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I didn't read your username thought you were the other person with the same profile picture as you
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Maybe it's just me, but out of all the things I think need to be addressed in solo queue, Nurse is very low on my list (actually, she was never on it to begin with lol)
I've just never found her that hard to play against?
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Nah. She's not. Hold the L.
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Source of evidence?
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I don't know what 'Hold the L.' means. You can hold your skill diff, though.
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For 5 years, the Devs agreed DH was fine.
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To quote my friend during our lobby loading, "I don't take L's."
He found a chest defender Bubba the hard way. He did, in fact, take that L.
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I mean, even you agree she needs SOME changes, right?
Aren't you the one who argues for Range and 3-Blink to be removed?
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Yes, I agree that range and 3-blink should be reworked entirely. I want evidence the basekit or recharge or whatever else is not fine.
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Then we, in principle, agree.
Nurse should be nerfed, in some sense.
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Absurdly huge or tiny maps is an issue that needs to be addressed regardless. And range add-ons are fundamentally problematic design because one of the methods of counterplay to Nurse is dancing near her edge range to make her have to either blink short and fatigue, or risk overshooting. The extra distance Nurse can cross much faster than the survivor while using range add-ones shuts that down.
I wish I had access to BHVR’s interactive data graphs, but my claims are ones without statistical proof, I’ll admit.
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There was. After Nurse's first nerf when the blink charge mechanic was introduced survivors stopped complaining about her and piled on Spirit instead. Every other post on the forum.
Spirit OP.
Spirit unfun.
Prominent streamers went on campaigns about how she had "no counterplay"
Then she got nerfed and survivors started saying the exact same things about Deathslinger.
This is literally the same post-nerf Nurse everyone thought was just fine when she had to wait for her blinks to recharge.
And if survivors get what they want and Nurse gets nerfed(again), every survivor in the fog will seamlessly switch over to spam posting about Blight.
Then back to Spirit? Pig? I dunno like I said I don't pay it any attention anymore.
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Yes and no. Up until a couple of months ago she was riddled with bugs that made her gameplay a lot more difficult and frustrating. Other than the blink bug which made her unplayable for multiple seconds, there were tons of blink dead zones, hills were extremely buggy to blink through resulting in tons of dead blinks for no apparent reason, and pallets were actually a good counterplay to her because she would be forced into fatigue AFTER the stun (a bug). A lot of oppressive perk combinations available now didn't exist (except ruin undying pop corrupt which ultimately was the strongest build on most killers anyway, not just her) - no starstruck, deadlock, or/DMS, and so on. That's the scenario where otz did his 50 streak too, and it was addonless (by the way, i play her mostly addonless too). The recent recoding they did to her fixed all of her bugs, which made her extremely easy to pick up, and ultimately too rewarding for the little effort that she actually takes right now. At this point the ultimate question is: should she be easy to pick up but be less oppressive, or should she be somehow reverted to being an actually difficult killer to play, but rewarding? Because easy and rewarding is not a balanced option.
Yesterday you talked to me and invited me to play her "at iri ranks". Other than the fact that "iri ranks" makes absolutely no sense and anyone with 10hrs in game knows that, stats at hand I played more nurse than most people in this forum (except, ironically, sluzzy) so I know what I'm talking about, most likely i know it better than you too.
You literally just admitted that you speak without evidence too. We disagree on a lot of stuff but ultimately we agree that range and 3 blinks are unhealthy and unbalanced. I said multiple times that personally I believe that recharge should be toned down a little bit too, because she IS a lot easier now after the bugfixes, and exposed should be obliterated (I'm not gonna discuss that, it's stupidly broken, period). They should also add back the double stuns with pallets, because now more than ever a skilled play on a pallet is literally useless.
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Which is why I also don’t expect people to just accept my claims. And why I ask for evidence from others. If you aren’t willing to discuss with people, then there’s no reason for anyone to believe what you claim unless you give irrefutable evidence.
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The evidence is simple: literally no other killer power that can hit through walls has the ability to one shot. Every killer who has the ability to one shot with their power, is stopped by colliding mechanics and needs to work around them. Even one of Billy's best add-ons removes the one shot from the chainsaw when sprinting through a pallet, and regardless of Billy's general strength as a killer, lopro chains being like this are balanced and fine
Being able to ignore those mechanics AND one shot is not healthy, and it kinda blows my mind that someone like you who keeps talking about balance and healthiness doesn't see how this is substantially neither of them
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So, do you have evidence she overperforms in an even matchup? Should be simple to find, if it’s really such a blatantly huge issue.
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You're a spicy one.
Of course your whole argument falls apart in the face of the fact your "easy to pick up and oppressive" killer has the lowest kill rates in the game, and has for some time.
If she's so easy to play why do you suppose that's the case? And if your suggesting her bugfixes justify another nerf I honestly don't know what to say. Should they put the bugs back?
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I don't know what Nurse is like at top MMR but she's fine at low and mid MMRs. My last two games against Nurse had zero kills and I think one Nurse only had one hook. There was at least one with NOED but it didn't help them at all.
Any discussions of Nurse being nerfed should be, in my opinion, constrained to top MMR and not negatively affect low to mid MMR as I can't see how those games were fun for those Nurse players.
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nurse hate is like a fly in a room, you know its there somewhere and you'll hear it when its buzzing. But yeah i agree with most people here, F nurse. Hardly met any nurse players who don't play like their life depends on them getting a 4k
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