Behaviour of survivor mains on a high mmr.
Hello, this will be my honest opinion on a survivor mains behaviour on a "high caliber" matches.
Im adressing mostly the guys who:
- Who's doint nothing but "click-clack" with a flashlight, and then DC when they first go down.
- Who's saying awful stuff in the end-game chat (K*S messages).
- Who's camping a pallet, and then T-bagging when it was dropped.
- Who's DCing when a killer have Franklin's.
- Who's standing right in front of a killer, waiting for them to kill you, coz it's not the killer they like.
- Who's cheating. (And who just don't want to leave a match, when there is a cheater in their team)
- Who's saboing their own teammates.
- Who's not playing the game for having fun or win (doing gens), just mocking the killer all match regardless of losing horribly.
My overall journey on this "high caliber" matches are just full of this stuff. Embarrassing, awful and disrespectful players.
I'm the kind of player who despise tactics like Tunneling, Camping, Slugging, and I'm always respecting my opponents in every game... But you know what? I think you deserve the worst possible outcomes and tactics against you, if you play like that.
Since I'm playing high tier killers, I never camp or tunnel, but playing against such survivors... Is actually urges me to make the match miserable for them.
The disrespect and words in the endgame chat that I was receiving from some of my matches (I will not bring screens here, it's basically "K*S" messages) just showing to me, that you don't deserve to have fun, and you don't deserve to have a normal match. If you want to continue playing this game.
If you playing this game with cheats to subtly winning a matches: Please for the love of God, leave and never return. You're being a "covid" of this game, no one wants you here. I've never seen a cheater who was just goofying around having fun with everyone and leave without any troubles.
I know this is an "Online game" but please, have a respect for your fellow teammates, and have a respect for your opponents.
I personally, starting to really hate survivor mains on my mmr at this point...
I'm sure I'm not the only one, I'd like to see other opinions on that part. Feel free guys.
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Welcome to High MMR where somehow people instead of being respectful and with brain they are the opposite
i really recommend just lowering your mmr its just pretty bad it does feel good when u punish the HELL out of them but most of the time its not worth it
and quick tip if someone keeps teabagging, forget the respect, MAKES THEM SUFFER, and if the whole team does it more than once....well you know what to do you (and general rule of life if u see a lobby with no items just put franklin's or lightborn on )
also watch someone tell you how do you know your mmr is high or mmr doesn't exist
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I have always wondered how people know their MMR is high though, I'm not disputing that OP is high MMR because those are behaviours that I rarely see and I'm an average solo Q player so I don't expect to be in the higher echelons of the game.
Hell, as killer I'd be right at the bottom of the pile and I'm still battered whenever I play lol.
But, how many people claim to be or believe that they are in a high MMR when in reality they are bang in the middle and just not as good as they think they are, or is there a way to tell?
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Lowering mmr is something I was thinking about of recently. Because it's just really unfun to play. I mean, I'm still winning the matches, but it's just a "bitter after taste" left from these matches.
I was looking for more interesting and close games when I was playing against strong survivors, I did not expect to see what I've seen from it.
"also watch someone tell you how do you know your mmr is high or mmr doesn't exist" :
I mean... Every single killer main who was playing long enough can tell even without knowing numbers. Each killer on 1 account has own mmr.
Literally 1 chase is enough to tell, if this survivor is really good or bad or a cheater. Am I wrong?=) And if you having 3-4 really good survivors almost every match, that means you're probably playing at or above 1600 (or whatever).
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people know they are in high mmr because u tend to see SWF a lot, players that know what they are doing, and busted toolboxes and let's not forget everyone's party trick, prove thyself, while on killers u might see rare killers like twins or sadako or killers that aren't as common and u will see a lot of tunneling with 4 gen regression its just so damn lame up here i rather play against anyone but high mmr players
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You're waiting in queue a little longer than usual, aside from the current time.
Survivors in your lobby are really... "Fashioned" and they also having a high prestige levels, 40 or above for now.
And in the game as I mentioned above.
If you're having a lot of cheaters in your matches, there is also a reason of high mmr.
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yea i agree every killer has their own MMR, that's why i can't play my sadako.......;-;
and sometimes even chases don't give much info, mostly likely against SWF since one of them is most likely boosted
don't get me started on cheaters....things are worst than sabo jakes.... and yea if u get good players every match its obvious its high mmr but tbh win or not u don't get the winning feeling, you just get out of the game stressed tired and just wanna quit, and you know don't forget those survivors despite you playing nicely, throwing every single vile word at you
BUT WE ALL PLAYING FOR FUN AREN'T WE said every hypocrite in this forums
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Most everyone here is guessing and realistically, most are closer to the middle. If someone really wanted to know and was fine with risking a ban, they could check their MMR on PC.
There's usually a huge misunderstanding about how matchmaking in this game works though. Just because someone faces "high MMR" players doesn't mean they themselves are at high MMR. The system is tuned to be anti-competitive. Someone can be in the top percentile of players in the world and still be within matchmaking range of someone smack dab in the middle at 1350 MMR.
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High mmr sometimes makes me wish we had unranked play thats not KyF
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There was a study done in 2020 that talked about how toxicity was common in DbD at the lowest levels and, unlike many games, was most common at the highest levels.
People that do things like the OP described may call other people trash but the reality is that they're self-describing.
I play for, ideally, 12 hooks with nobody dying before the 6th to 7th hook. It's more fun and helps keep me away from people like that.
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It's cause survivor is easy as hell when you play in a SWF with good players, so these guys get bored with the game. Rather than play another game like a normal human, they shift to getting enjoyment in the game by making the game as frustrating and tilting as possible for their opponent
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This is generally how I play as well, I rather lose because of it than win.
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Exactly, I have more fun losing trying for 12 hooks than I would winning a game where both sides were toxic.
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Ayyy, do I get points for being high mmr and not ever doing a single one of those?
Side note, I dont enjoy those people on my team let alone versing them. Not sure why DBD is so toxic compared to other games, like BM just happens in nearly every match... never had that in any game
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Didn’t peanits specifically state (and other devs on livestreams) that very few players are actually high MMR? It seems that a plethora of killer mains believe themselves to have high MMR, but that doesn’t really match anything BHVR has officially said about MMR. I think, as you mentioned, it’s important to recognize that facing skilled players doesn’t necessarily mean oneself is at high MMR. And while I do believe more killer mains occupy the high MMR bracket than survivor players, I do not believe that facing a specific caliber of survivor means the killer player is at high MMR. None of this even considers the soft cap.
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I want to say something like 5% of players are above the softcap of 1700 and 1% are above 1900. There's also a misunderstanding of how a Glicko system works, which traces back to the Scott Jund video when MMR released. People think MMR gains are static because the accounts they used for testing were equal to each other. This leads people to think 10 wins=100 MMR, when in reality the MMR gain/loss is relative to the opponent and may not adjust at all. It's why Peanits' chart didn't have any data points beyond 2000ish. It's the theoretical max at the moment.
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I'd give you all kinds of points, if it's true.
Matchmaking indeed chaotic right now, but for some of my killers... I'm playing (each match) against 3-4 people in a group (I can tell by the end-game chat), with prestige level 40-100.
But even tho, why are they so toxic and hateful, disrespectful and cringe?
The worst part about it, is that I'm actually starting to hate survivor mains to the point of actually start slugging, camping and tunneling like crazy.
Giving the last one hatch? Hell no, never in this game.
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The human ego is a funny thing. It's pretty comical to see the "I'm so good at this game! I have to be high MMR because of this!" posts.
Some people love stroking their ego publicly and are not ashamed to flaunt it to anyone who will listen to them. I can't take those people seriously. Truly great people are the humble ones that have nothing to prove to anyone else and do what they enjoy because they love doing it, not for recognition or for pats on the back from strangers.
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The problem with toxicity at higher MMR is you have a lot of people who are used to winning, and do not deal well with losing, or otherwise feeling they were showed up in any way. Like they can't wrap their brains around being outplayed. These are invariably the ones who post "GGEZ" after getting wrecked; people who have an issue with reality.
They should be above petulant, childish sore loser behavior, but often aren't. It's lashing out to cover their own (often only to them) feeling of being "humiliated".
And that's one of the reasons I don't sweat. I don't want to be a the highest levels because it's often (not always, by any means) a toxic, chippy sweatfest (also because my favorite killers aren't high tier). It's also why I don't act cocky in-game. Acting like that and then getting outplayed has to sting the ego. There's not much worse than the taste of your own foot.
On a related note, though there's no way of knowing for sure, I would bet most of this occurs just below the highest levels (if those actually exist), amongst players who think they're at the top. So the egomaniacs and Dunning-Kruger types.
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