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Found the ultimate counter for sweaty nurse players
Just hide all match and get hatch. Worked like a charm for me today. Had an extremely nasty nurse who as well as being amazing with blinking, barely missed a single one all match, also decided that tunneling out and proxy camping my friend at 5 gens was a necessary move. The two randoms took lots of hooks trying to unhook.
So down to 2 players, I'd managed to do gens single handed, and simply hid from her all game in lockers using quick and quiet. The bill who was left with me got caught on the other side of the map and put on second hook, obligingly suicided on hook and i got lucky with the hatch spawn. She never actually saw me for the entire match.
Normally I almost never play like this but as soon as that nurse found anybody they were down in less than 20 seconds. No way I'd last in a chase with her so glad i got my sneaky little escape. Especially with her playing so toxic, even noticed in the endsgame that she was running NOED 🤣
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Sounds to me like the rest of the team actually played the match and interacted with the killer and you just held m1, I mean you do you but I would rather be in their place than yours
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Well it looked to me like the first two got busted so quick that they got 5k and 8k bp each and depipped because they were up against a killer who is almost impossible to survive a chase against if the killer player knows what they are doing. Also one who also decided to tunnel and hook camp.
I mean i could've directly engaged the killer and gotten rinsed as well. Seems like a dumb play. Or as I chose to, played to counter them with stealth, which I did very effectively. Survived, pipped up and got a decent amount if bp. Plus i had the most gen progress in the game. So i maxed out two of the main objectives for survivors. Seems like playing the game to me.
Plus it's satisfying to frustrate a player, who will use an OP killer then resort to every cheap tactic in the book, out of their 4k.
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Damn can you imagine being your friend...
I'd hate to choose to play with someone and they act so childish and entitled and when I'm actually playing the game you decide to not even try...
Like if I'm getting camped do gens...
It's funny though, so many people give up verse nurse and dont try yet she still has a low kill rate, imagine if we PLAYED THE GAME
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i dont know, i truly hate getting matched against nurse, but i would still play the game normally unhooking and everything.
I still have hope that someone of my random teammates can actually loop her for more than 15-20 sec because i cant.
i dont know how nurse can possibly have that 52% kill rate, every single game i have played against nurse in the past 4-5 month have always ended with 4k (Mainly because i play SoloQ only and for some reason every single nurse player i get has like 3k-4k hours minimum and plays like they were in dbd World Cup).
The only explanation i can think of that low of kill rate if because people can get so frustrated playing against her that they DC and make that matches not count in the total stats.
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Tbh she was more annoyed at the nurse for playing so cheaply when they clearly were extremely good at blink hits. She encouraged me to leave her on hook while nurse was camping, which was the entire time she was on hook, to play stealthy and was pretty pleased that I escaped.
Lotta people here who'd apparently be happy to run at a killer and get killed if it was obvious the killer was out of their skill range. Rather than counter them with different tactics.
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Pretty sure DCs count as kills. In my experience nurse is a killer of 2 extremes. If you can't hit blinks then you'll struggle massively and probably get 0-1k games. But if you are good with blink, particularly on PC then you can literally hit people through walls. And i often find good nurse players are extremely sweaty, NOED, slugging, tunneling. I'm just pleased i managed to outplay one of them.
But yh those subpar nurses probably drop her killrate a lot.
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Well the stats are awful anyway, no doubt if it was hooks shed be higher up in them even if you include all mmrs. But the fact is, and this goes for alot of killers especially in solo Q there are just teammates that hinder you.
You'll be surprised how often people arent doing gens, don't understand counters or perks and will often give up. No doubt nurse is strong but she is beatable it just requires your team to play and have an understanding and it's pretty smooth sailing as not all nurses are gods.
You're more likely to run into a swf you could never beat than a nurse especially the higher mmr you go.
As for the DCs I'm pretty sure a DC doesnt make the whole game void. As far as I know only the DC player is void, so they dont count while the other 3 will. Obviously cant be 100% but every time I ask a dev I dont get a reply and the only reply I do get is "DCs are void and dont count as a kill" which isnt really helpful understanding the other players
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You didnt counter her though you didnt win and your whole team lost, you didnt even counter her power in chase etc.
I'm not saying you cant hide at certain points to avoid detection as it's quite strong against nurse but just hiding doesnt do anything at all.
Personally I'd rather just play, it's more fun and I get more points and I can only get better if I keep trying though theres not much more for me to learn after running nurses for so many years now but they're definitely beatable.
But you can counter camping through pushing gens and trading just before next stage and this will usually give a win to 1-3 survivors, even easier with certain perks.
My advice, just play and try to have fun and learn new stuff in the process. Everyone can seem good if you arent use to countering them so keep that in mind
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I mean I enjoyed the match. And it clearly wasn't going to be a gen win. Because the 2 randoms tried to force the unhook, got constantly downed and essentially threw the game. And i did counter them, just not in chase, they were clearly good at ending chases, so i decided to come at the game from another angle. Clearly their hunting skills were subpar. Didn't search the area thoroughly enough after i repaired a gen they regressed 3 times.
Like i said i never generally play like this, if I have a genuine chance against a killer I'll happily engage and often die. But one who can and did down all 3 of the other survivors in rapid succession? Why play into their hands? I survived, got points and played as effectively as i could given the situation.
Not like i gave up straight away, but when you are 3-5 minutes into a game, your team mate is communicating that the killer is camping hook, they are second stage and 2 randoms both on one hook? Yh sure enter a chase with that killer.
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If it were any other killer, i may agree that it could be my teammates fault, but the truth is i also cant loop nurse for more than 20sec. It is not a situation of me looping for a certain amount time and my team doing nothing.
The problem is, i play alone dbd, most my friends left with 6.1.0 so i cant form a coordinated swf to be prepared against a possible nurse match up so my games are usually a gamble. Should i get a killer i can loop and have a chance of winning, or i get nurse.
From what i heard about DCs, i think the whole match does not count in terms of stats, because if one DCs early in any games the other three are likely to die almost certainly.
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There’s nothing else you can do against a sweaty nurse player.
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If a player DCs it does prevent you from depipping.
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Pftt why argue with people who tell you it's wrong? The devs didn't buff sole survivor for no reason.
If your team is garbo, cut the cord. It is annoying being left in a game with someone else who isn't doing gens either; but what can you do? If someone DC'd, suicided, or got tunneled out trivially at 5 gens (because MMR works well) it's a hatch game and you play for hatch or a solo door escape. You don't have to explain that to anybody. You played to win and if the only way to win is hatch then that's that.
Play in a SWF if you want to be attached to your teammates, in DBD they are basically your meat shields for the purposes of solo Q with how many games are going to play out
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Yeah we usually play a 4 person swf. And even near the end i was still working on gens and just popping in a locker when I heard terror radius. Plus I'd resolved to kill myself on hook if i got caught before the bill. I'll help teammates if I can. But sometimes all that does is provide killer with more hits and hooks so sometimes it is necessary to play for hatch.
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You can do it I promise! Its definitely tricky to learn but possible, iv been a solo survivor for so many years now but you can run nurse for a decent amount of time when you learn.
Obviously you cant do it easily or every chase and if you could itd be to easy and shed be so very weak, shes just a killer that is most different to counter so it's much harder to adept.
And I'm not sure, I'll wait to hear from a dev before I believe that just because it's such a impactful thing
But I believe in you getting better and kicking nurse behind from one solo to another!
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That sounds super boring but you do you. I'm the kind of survivor who will just sit on a gen when there's two of us left and four gens to be done. The killer will either kill me or surprisingly a lot of them just leave me alone but either way I'm getting killed and can move on or I'm getting points so I'm happy.
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I can do it with some, going to the narrow side of a wall. And mindgaming them, erratic changes of direction. But a really good nurse with years of experience is well above my current skill level. And on console i can only do so much on controller, it's very hard to 360 a killer on console. I won't learn anything by getting downed as quickly as every body else in the match was. Especially if i get limited to one chase by facecamping.
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Well you arent expected to beat a killer way above your skill and if that nurse really was way higher in skill you wont lose much mmr so that game won't do much to you.
I play on console and honestly drop trying to 360, focus on loops, mindgames and misdirection. 360s will work on new killers or people who have a very low sensitivity, it's more of just a gimmick people throw in when they're versing far weaker killers than they should be not to mention you'll lose distance if it doesnt work and theres better things to focus on
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Out of curiosity, do you play Nurse? The reason why I'm asking is because I semi-regularly play Nurse because the only way to learn Nurse's chase mechanics is to versus her a lot (which is out of my control) or play her (which is in my control).
I play about four or five games with her a week and I find it helps me a lot because a survivor will do something to mess me up and then I learn what to do or the survivor will do something that makes it easy for me (and then I know what not to do).
It helped me so I'm just offering a suggestion since it might help you.
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I love how the OP claims that the Nurse playing to win is "sweaty" and even "toxic" because she chose effective perks but OP hiding and abandoning their team-mates is "playing to win".
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People responding "play the game" are just killers in survivors' clothing who hate stealth play because they don't have room for Whispers in their Starstruck Nurse build.
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No they say play the game because OP decided to hide all match and let their teammates die on hook just to get a consolation escape.....it even sounds like they didn't do Gens but locker hop all game.
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No DCs are not counted as Kills they are counted as Quiters....the bonus the Killer gets is added to a different score than Kills.
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"Down to 2 players, I'd managed to do gens single handed, and simply hid from her all game in lockers using quick and quiet."
They did do gens. Plus, look what happened to the other survivors who did "play the game."
They only need to locker hop before a downed survivor is picked up if they're close by (Awakened Awareness), and before they're hooked if they're far away (BBQ).
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Not sure why the hate on the op.
Im a solo surv when i do play, and i strictly rely on myself, many games i have limited killer interaction as i try to not be found by walking around slowly and doing what i can.
If that mean's just genning and going for safe unhooks so be it, if people want to rush around everywhere leaving marks for a killer to follow that's on them to deal with the Killer. Can't fix stupid.
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Difference between abandoning your team mates and following lemmings off a cliff. I'm not generally one to leave my teammates on hook if there is a good opportunity to save them.
My swf mate actively said to not bother unhooking her because the nurse was proxy camping her. And i saw both randoms go for unhooks. Then in less than a minute both unhooker and unhookee would be slugged and hooked.
Don't see why people are saying i should simply run in and get myself hooked so i can experience the delight of watching the person I'm trying to save also get rehooked in front of me lol.
Edit: also I call the nurse sweaty because she was hook camping, slugging and tunneling hard from the start of the game when she clearly didn't need to. Legitimate tactics but nobody is fond of playing against that. Sure I dislike NOED (I think it's a pretty cheap one in endgame) but I can respect a good killer with a good perk setup.
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I completed the equivalent of 2 entire gens. One finished solely by me and considerable progress on 2 more. Finished my halloween rift in the match too. I didn't start to locker hop until we were down to 2 players. Even when I did i was still putting progress on a gen while there was no TR.
We were both working on the same gen, i got off, pointed to the other side of the map, they nodded and went to the other side. Idk what they did but the nurse didn't find them for quite a while.
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Ok with more context I take back what I said....when I first read what you posted it sounded like what I have experienced a lot in soloQ...the lone hider that dosnt do anything just to try and get the hatch.
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Weird, I usually have no problem doing gens, taking chase from her, or hiding (if the situation calls for it). Try more than hiding if you ever want more than one escape against her (which, apparently, survivors still escape the most against Nurse in regular matches - according to the latest official stats).
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I remember a game I played as a nurse a while back on BackWater.
They were hiding so well in the map that I thought at one point they were all using a wallhack to follow me around and anticipate my moves 🤣
But in a way, they were the most realistic survivors I've ever met because IRL, I doubt that someone chased by a psychopath would have fun crouching down and getting up several times in a row behind an obstacle 🤣
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Isn't this the exact opposite side of the problem, though? It wouldn't be the first time I lost a match because everyone wanted to "actually play the match" and no one wanted to "just hold m1".
In fact, many of my most frustrating games come from matches where the 3 other survivors chase the killer to play hero and show off and I'm the only one "not playing the match".
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Stealth is one of the counters to Nurse, pre-leaving gens early and hiding is particularly annoying for Nurse as her base movement speed is so slow she cannot waste much time searching for immersed survivors. But be warned, this will likely irritate a skilled Nurse and some will punish this playstyle with unfun tactics...
Oh and hiding so your team mates take all aggro is not a very nice or useful way to play either in my opinion
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Yeah it's only if the game is obviously unwinnable that I'll resort to tactics like that. Most games I'm more than happy to get in killer's face and buy a bit of time for people to do gens, or go for saves and heals. As well as gen work myself.
Nothing worse than a player who spends the entire game not contributing at all from the start.
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People like you ruin the game tbh.
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Also, stealth is a very legitimate strategy. In solo queue I've lost many games, and won many games on my Killer games, simply because the survivors wanted to swarm the hook and/or mess with the Killer. Playing overly cautious can result in a 4K but I see more 4Ks from playing recklessly than cautiously.
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I find it funny that people want you to engage with the killer and think youre a bad friend for leaving your friend on hook… i think you should be able to play how you want, and i’m glad you escaped. Stealth is a great strategy and expecting people to play a certain way is entitlement. If your teammates are farming then what else are you supposed to do.
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Ah yes. People who play smart to survive when the game is crashing and burning obviously ruin the game. I'm sure i ruin the game more than people who ragequit and those get toxic and abusive when they don't do well.
Or did you miss the part where i contributed to the game at the start and my friend explicitly told me to leave them on hook because nurse was facecamping?
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Lots of people seem to be missing the part that i didn't start locker hopping until there were two dead. I just happened to be working on a gen for the first minute or two when we realised that the nurse was hookcamping and tunneling hard. My friend wanted me to stay away because nurse was facecamping and unhooking wouldn't achieve anything. She even cussed put the two randoms as idiots in our party chat because they were unhooking her under nurses nose lol.
Nurse had a whale of a time getting 7 hooks in a matter of minutes by tunneling and hanging arpund the hook from the start of the game. Then spent 5-10 minutes looking for the last 2 survivors with 3 gens left.
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Sure, though wasn't specifically calling you out there btw
Honestly, if someone tunnels and camps as Nurse I really think whatever you do to deny them kills is totally fair. The more annoying the better lol
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"Oh and hiding so your team mates take all aggro is not a very nice or useful way to play either in my opinion"
Sorry figured that was directed at me
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Today i finally escaped and won against nurse after four months.
I am happy🙂
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Nice. Looks like it was an intense game lol
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It was, the agi-starstruck covered most of the map so we were exposed everytime someone was picked.
I escaped injured with 2 hooks.
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Congrats! Keep at it soon you'll be beating them more often!
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You'll be surprised how often people arent doing gens, don't understand counters or perks and will often give up. No doubt nurse is strong but she is beatable it just requires your team to play and have an understanding and it's pretty smooth sailing as not all nurses are gods.
You're more likely to run into a swf you could never beat than a nurse especially the higher mmr you go.
Yeah I doubt that. Even in high mmr most player's are not very good. What's more likely, one good killer player on nurse or 4 good survivor players? imo I the good nurse player is way more likely. In rregards to the unbeatable 4 mans I guess it also depends what killer you are playing and what build you are running. If you are playing m1 killer's even with full gen kick build I guess even decent 4 mans would be impossible. I also think a lot of the swf's people think are good are just running really, really busted builds and not actually good in chase.
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Doesnt need to be a swf, just a decent team and I'm honestly not sure why so many people say there arent many good survivors when there are mainly because it's not tthat difficult.
I play solo constantly, while I may not personally escape every game (though I escape way more than I die) I see plenty of good survivors just most people only remember the bad teammates and I focus on that too.
I'll have many games where the team I'm on stomp the killer and forget about it because not much happened but I'll soon remember the team that did nothing all game while I did long chases.
My point was as long as survivors have understanding and can actually loop/do gens then they have a good chance at winning against most killers even nurse at the same level, not all nurses are that amazing just alot of survivors are worse
Edit: look at Scourage:pain, some survivors are still oblivious to letting go just before the hook, it's not difficult at all people are just lazy... and if you're lazy you will likely lose
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I feel like that also depends a lot on your mmr. Climbing solo q for newer players is extremely difficult because bad teammates mean you get killed, keeping your mmr poor. Even one substandard survivor on a team can throw the game. I have two regular swf teammates and we find our 4th more often than not is actively detrimental to us.
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The ultimate counter is to lose?
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Oh definitely, this is a reason I was against mmr and constantly say the data means nothing.
The game isnt balanced for the better players to have a fun game and newer players are stuck with bad players even if they get better. Would of been much better to keep newer players separate for so long then let them dive into a more mixed game that isnt so set on mmr.
Apparently my solo survivor is quite the opposite experience for most players as alot of games can be quite easy or just end up winning if the killer doesnt play in certain ways most survivors dont like. I'll still get the complete unwinnable games because of bad matchmaking though and I have no idea how I can be put with 3 survivors that just do nothing all game lol.
But from my experience as solo survivor (and killer on the rare occasion) survivors seem to be good and usually the advantage
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Yeah most of my games team mates are still fairly iffy. Seen a few better ones recently, hopefully after swf ing for a while it'll keep going up.
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