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why do wraith's ALWAYS tunnel???????

Mushwin
Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

yes, blood hound....my first min is blood hound, i use it with other killers, just so i know where the hell theywent but every time i have the wraith, the tunnel!!!

Comments

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    i dont tunnel :c
    (unless you force me to)

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    Some killers have abilities and perks that encourage playstyles that aren't inherently fun for both sides. Wraith can really easily camp and can shut down Borrowed Time. 
  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @Mushwin said:
    yes, blood hound....my first min is blood hound, i use it with other killers, just so i know where the hell theywent but every time i have the wraith, the tunnel!!!

    Because wraith power it's just only fo camp?, lmao

  • Bongbingbing
    Bongbingbing Member Posts: 1,423

    It's because of his design I think, non viable killers usually will have to play scummy to get the same effect as higher tier killers.
    Wraith isn't that strong of a killer even after his buff and his power does suggest camping since he's only truly invisible when standing still.

    If he was completely invisible when walking im sure not many people would be camping since he'd have some map pressure but that would probably make him OP.

  • TheWraith883
    TheWraith883 Member Posts: 66

    Tunnel is the word that survivors made to make killers feel bad if they want to assure the kill. Killers should do whatever they need to do to get kills. We don't play by survivor rules.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited February 2019

    @Mushwin said:
    yes, blood hound....my first min is blood hound, i use it with other killers, just so i know where the hell theywent but every time i have the wraith, the tunnel!!!

    Do you want them to play bad intentionally?
    As survivor you dont start repairing another gen when you got one at 66% either, no you finish your gen

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897
    Probably because the injured survivor is easier to find usually. If I catch them unhooking or just after the hook I go for the one going for the save. Ideally I'll drop them both. Otherwise I'm fine  havibg them trade places on the hook.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    I don't. But then I always take MYC on Wraith because with the speed and invisibility it's often quite easy to find the target 
  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @The_Crusader said:
    I don't. But then I always take MYC on Wraith because with the speed and invisibility it's often quite easy to find the target 

    It feels like an eternity to de-cloak nowadays. I'd rather just approach from a distance and see who is leaving the hook. Chances are, it's a one-hit down whomever I hit.

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Master it's not about the playing bad....wraith's very much just always tunnel

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Mushwin said:

    @Master it's not about the playing bad....wraith's very much just always tunnel

    Tunneling is just playing optimally, just like genrushin.  You can't blame players for playing optimally 
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Master said:
    Mushwin said:

    @Master it's not about the playing bad....wraith's very much just always tunnel

    Tunneling is just playing optimally, just like genrushin.  You can't blame players for playing optimally 

    i aren't blaming, none of what i said is blamming and i fully support that some play the game as they wish etc....the point i was making everytime i come across one they tunnel

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Mushwin said:

    @Master said:
    Mushwin said:

    @Master it's not about the playing bad....wraith's very much just always tunnel

    Tunneling is just playing optimally, just like genrushin.  You can't blame players for playing optimally 

    i aren't blaming, none of what i said is blamming and i fully support that some play the game as they wish etc....the point i was making everytime i come across one they tunnel

    Oh then I don't understand the purpose of the thread. You fully support tunneling but also "why do they always tunnel"
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    -face palms- i don't fully support tunneling...ugh "i support fully that people play the game as they wish" it was a rant -.-

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,367

    When playing against a wraith, I usually get hooked first because I am useless at seeing the cloak effect. When I get get unhooked, wherever I run to, as soon as I start healing, "bing bong" and I'm down again.

    I've tried running to the furthest corners, sometimes even running laps round the map and it still happens as soon as I stop to heal. Bloodhound encourages it but I love using Bloodhound as a killer I cannot complain. I just need to get better at spotting the cloak.

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @JawsIsTheNextKiller yes i don't complain either as i use blood hound, mostly to remember where someone went.....but as Bubba's are the face campers of the basement, wraith's are the tunnelers

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,367

    @Mushwin said:
    @JawsIsTheNextKiller yes i don't complain either as i use blood hound, mostly to remember where someone went

    "to remember where someone went". Yes that's a better way to say "tunnel".

  • RoKrueger
    RoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371
    Mister_xD said:

    i dont tunnel :c
    (unless you force me to)

    I DO tunnel :-) 
    (Unless you manage to not get caught again)
  • laKUKA
    laKUKA Member Posts: 406
    edited February 2019

    The game is designed for tunneling. You have two survivors in front, one you down one hit and the other with two... by logic or common sense who do you hit first?

  • Shad03
    Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    @laKUKA said:
    The game is designed for tunneling. You have two survivors in front, one you down one hit and the other with two... by logic or common sense who do you hit first?

    I personally go after the unhooker if I can. However sometimes I just have to get rid of survivors or someone was being a douche. In such cases I will go after the one down. But with BBQ I have a incentive to go after a fresh target, unfortunately with all the nerfs I have to prioritize the easier party to take down first and then hunt down fresh targets.

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @laKUKA said:
    The game is designed for tunneling. You have two survivors in front, one you down one hit and the other with two... by logic or common sense who do you hit first?

    if i am honest it depends on the situation, i play my games more fair if i can do so i go for the one who isn't injured, to give the other more of a chance but that's just howi play the game

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Some people define tunneling differently, so, as a Wraith main, i'll list the 2 most common uses of the term.

    If tunneling to you means going after you until you're on a hook, i tunnel as Wraith.
    If tunneling to you means going after you until you're dead, i don't tunnel as Wraith.

    No more "Wraiths always tunnel". :)

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606
    edited February 2019

    Yes. It's downed. Hooked. Unhooked. Try. Downed. Hookeded. Unhook. Try. Dead. Repeated for the next Wraith game. But that's just me, and playing "better" doesn't work, for no matter what i do, run, hide, evade, locker, bing bong the ding dong man is there lol.

  • tehshadowman33
    tehshadowman33 Member Posts: 939
    edited February 2019

    @Bongbingbing said:
    It's because of his design I think, non viable killers usually will have to play scummy to get the same effect as higher tier killers.
    Wraith isn't that strong of a killer even after his buff and his power does suggest camping since he's only truly invisible when standing still.

    If he was completely invisible when walking im sure not many people would be camping since he'd have some map pressure but that would probably make him OP.

    Yeah, basically. If you don't get an early hook, you're going to play super scummy. If in the first two minutes you don't get at least a down, you're pretty ######### on large maps like asylum or rotten fields... You have to resort to baiting an unsafe hook, plus the fact wraith denies borrowed time means he can punish bad saves like Pig or Leatherface.

    Wraith's main advantage is that he doesn't need any tracking perks because of his insane map presence. Other than that, he's just a M1 killer. He's weak to loops, just like everyone except nurse or clown.

    Save the Best for Last is pretty much a necessity on Wraith. Without good addons, he objectively performs worse. Wraith needs a pig-style rework in that they need to nerf his addons, but buff his movement speed while cloaked/uncloaking speed.

    If you run out of rare/very rare addons, you pretty much don't want to pick wraith. He's deadly on small maps, but then again, most killers are deadly on small maps like Lery's aside from Hillbilly or Nurse, which suffer due to the map's design.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    Probably because Wraith is absolute crap. But I know the feels of getting hounded down by a filthy boi. :(
  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    Players who are good with Wraith or any killer for that matter, don't tunnel because they don't need to do it. If you exercise good gen awareness, good at predicting what the survivors are doing or will do, and good at assessing each survivor's skill quickly then there's no reason any killer cannot 3-4k regularly. You know what that means? Probably playing survivor for awhile to know their capabilities - killer mains who never play survivor stunt their own potential.

  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    I play Wraith, I will tunnel if you get unhooked two meters from me. Otherwise I don't

  • TrAiNwReCk
    TrAiNwReCk Member Posts: 246

    @TheWraith883 said:
    Tunnel is the word that survivors made to make killers feel bad if they want to assure the kill. Killers should do whatever they need to do to get kills. We don't play by survivor rules.

    I play both survivor and killer in about 2:1 I find survivor less stressful, but killer brings home the bacon (BP). And I have never blamed the killer for tunneling or camping. It sucks, I won't say it doesn't, but with a little common sense it should make sense.

    • Camping - usually a waste of time, but if you are desperate to get that 1 kill that's the way to do it
    • Tunneling - or let them go on purpose to chase someone at full health, game takes longer, survivors get more time, less likely to secure more kills before game is over

    I am not saying to be a good killer you need to camp or tunnel, but the simple practice of such ideals is common sense when the killers pressure stems from how many survivors are left in a trial.

    The same feeling for survivors. When you start losing help to do gens then you start to feel the pressure. unless there are 2 gens done and you are hiding around waiting for other to die so you can get hatch

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737
    Why do survivors always do generators?