I can't wait for the Nurse rework or nerf

you know, the Knight reminds me of celebrimbor in shadow of war with his guards with how you could take control of an orc and have bodyguard with you at all times. I wonder if the knight is inspired from the game. it would be so cool if the witch king was a killer in dbd.

She's already nerfed. Sorry their are two killers tuned enough to deal with swfs.

Figured. That's why I asked before typing a novel.

It's a bit more nuanced than that. Just running around a single corner isn't breaking LOS considering she has two blinks. You don't have to be unpredictable all the time. Turn your camera and look at her as you go around a LOS blocker. If she's aiming at the corner, there's zero point in doubling back. You should be holding W and looking for another LOS block+a pathing switch in case she tries to blink blind on muscle memory. I personally like to make space from the second LOS block. Most Nurses predict that you'll hug the tile. No reason to hug tiles against a Nurse. You're dodging a projectile (her blink and lunge), not looping an M1 killer.

If she's aiming ahead of you, a double back is an option, but you need to be thinking about how you're dodging the follow up blink. Because if you just hold a straight line at the same pace and hug a tile, she can predict that without seeing you on muscle memory. Hesitate, stop altogether, run to the map wall, something. Anything that makes a blind prediction 2nd blink inaccurate works.

If you're out in the open: force a 2nd blink and use anything to mess with the accuracy of a 2nd blink. Distance+left and right movement are best for dodging 2nd blinks. Never ever double back in straight lines out in the open. You'll get 2 tapped in heartbeat against a good Nurse. You make zero distance if she hits you as you're running towards her.

Two of my teamm8s insta dced when they heard the first blink, solo queue adventures 😂

For real, spirit was left in a busted state for idk how long before they finally nerfed her. Nurse will get a rework once solo q gets the help it needs, which at the rate the devs are going will be 14 years from now.

For those who complain about the fact that the nurse can go through the pallets ... that's the point, it's her gamedesign ...

And for those who complain about the nurse, I would be interested in seeing videos of you against the nurse ... maybe you could with some feedback from some people on your gameplay.

There is an advantage to skimming the walls, though: it reduces the distance the survivor has to travel, so they can get out of sight a little faster.

I have often caught survivors in corridors because they stayed in the middle, and therefore took longer to turn at the wall corners.

Anyway, nice comment 🤗

I wonder why posters like this think they know more than players with much more experience than them.

Before you ask - 6k+ hours, was in several tournaments, a top survivor and killer player and streamer, never lower than top mmr for both.

I don't know why these posters think it is players who don't know what they are talking about who are complaining about nurse. How does that even make sense? She has almost lower than 50 percent kill rate at lower mmrs...it is players who actually know what they are doing in the game who know Nurse is too strong...like, obviously.

Stats does not include games with DC involved, which for nurse games is a considerable amount of 3Ks going to the trash bin.

That's not how any of this works. At all.

problem is you need to shine your light on her before she even appears since if she buffers the next blink she'll start charging it the moment shes out of the first blink

using a firecracker/flashbang is much safer and nets you a much bigger reward if done correctly

You can also start lighting her when she has just appeared after her first blink; if you light her face, her second blink will still be cancelled 🤗

There is something about the nurse's killrate that I find interesting to note.

Some people say that the nurse's killrate shows that she is not a problem, as it is in the middle range (between 50% and 55%).

So far, the argument is valid.

However, others indicate that the nurse's kill rate is actually biased because it does not take into account DC.

This is also quite correct.

Indeed, it is reasonable to assume that players who DC when they see that the killer is the nurse are players who don't know how to play her well; I don't see why someone who knows how to loop a nurse would DC from the start (and even if they did, that would mean that those DCs wouldn't increase their killrate, anyway...).

So, we can deduce that indeed, the DCs against the nurse should be, for the most part, considered as kills, and therefore, that they could indeed increase her killrate.

However, we can also logically remember that the players who DC against a nurse do so in an EARLY game. Of course, I have no statistical record of this, but it would be surprising if a player waited until the last generator to say "Oh no, a nurse, I DC!".

So, we can assume that most of the DC against the nurse is done in early game.

This means that for 1 DC, the game turns into 3 surv. VS the most powerful killer of the game. Needless to say, unless the nanny is a baby nanny, and the survivors are in a team, and know how to play well against her, the game will end in a 3K (+1K if you count the DC).

Where, if no DC had taken place, there could have been 3 or 4K, but also less, depending on the evolution of the game.

As a consequence, when a player DCs against the nurse from the beginning, he distorts himself the nurse's killrate, because he "gives" her the victory.

And this is where there is a problem.

Because either there are a lot of players who DC against the nurse, and therefore a lot of players who potentially increase her killrate a bit...

Or there are in fact very few DC against the nurse, but in this case, her killrate is then very close to the one announced by BHVR (because if there are very few DC, these "biased" games only impact her killrate a little).

Some may say : "The problem is that the killrate is distorted because it takes into account the baby nurses, who don't know how to play the character."

This is completely true, but it is also the principle of the killrate, to compile all the results, including all the nurses, from trash-tiers to expert nurses.

And besides, this argument would be valid if the nurse had appeared in the game a week ago.

However, the nurse has been around for 6 years. In 6 years, the game has had plenty of time to see the number of hand nurses being born, evolving, increasing, to become very important.

Same tbh.

She is my fav killer but I just feel lame and bad for playing her these days as people hate her. I don't even run slowdown, nor do I sweat with camping and tunnelling but people just give up and go next (though I rarely get DC's as I don't play scummy).

I want to be able to play her without feeling bad as despite survivors often making me loathe them, I still cant help wanting everyone to have a good time and not hate the killer I am playing.

I don't want to feel bad playing Nurse but I do at present.

Again, the timing for that is so precise and you pretty much have to shine before she even appears. Since again, if she buffers the input for a 2nd blink (meaning she presses M2 while still performing her first blink) it leaves maybe just a few frames (if even that) to take away her ability to blink or even burning her (al though in my 5 years of playing Ive never seen a Nurse get burned with a Flashlight)

Its way too unreliable and way too risky

If the nurse presses the load button on her blink during her first blink, it doesn't change anything; she will still have to load it normally once she reappears; it doesn't save her time.