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How is "tryhard" is an insult?

So let's say... You're playing a killer, you're really good at this killer, you're making some insane moves and reads, you're trying your best to get this jucy 4k, and by the end of the match: "What a tryhard, get a life." or "Imagine sweating like a pig."

So playing really good, apparently is a bad thing? I really don't understand when someone using a word "tryhard" as an insult.

If I see a really good survivor jucying me for 1-2 minutes and playing without any mistakes... I always complimenting this survivor in the end-chat. No matter how much he\she T-bags me here and there. Like... Why would I call him\her a "tryhard"? He\she is a really good player.

I understand no one likes to lose, but if you complimenting no matter which side for a good plays, you actually can cheer up this person or even make their day. (Yeah, ofc)

"I know - I know... It's because of the salt, but still..."

I think we should compliment a good plays like it should be. Not insult a good player with a weird word: "Tryhard".

Comments

  • FellowKillerMain
    FellowKillerMain Member Posts: 858

    How dare you try to win in an adversarial competition!

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959
    edited November 2022

    What about me tho? xD

    I didn't tunneled or camped a single survivor in any of these 4 matches in a row. And in all these 4 matches, I complimented them for actually giving me a challenge, but they just said: "Tryhard"... Excuse me?!

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,514

    It's roar, there is no point in conversing with them.

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,413

    It's just the immutable law of gaming. Anyone worse than you is a ######### tier noob, anyone better than you is a no life sweaty tryhard who ruins the game for everyone else.

    Most gamers believe they are at the perfect skill level between casual and sweaty lol.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 3,462
    edited November 2022

    IMO, the word "tryhard" is used as a pejorative in two scenarios:

    1. The complainant wanted to play a chill game and is mad that their opponent wanted to win
    2. The complainant simply wasn't as good as their opponent and wants to give the impression they weren't trying in order to cover that up

    Lame either way. One should expect their opponent is going to be trying to win, and/or be honest enough to just accept a loss.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,618

    I've had that happen as well and been told I can play chill. I just either don't respond or say I am playing chill. I mean, if I'm not camping, alternating hooks and the first survivor dies on the 8th or 9th hook then how much more chill do you want?

  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,304

    I have to try fairly hard in most matches. It is what it is. Never received any stick playing as Oni oddly. Used to get a lot when playing as Trapper or Ghostface for some reason.

  • fake
    fake Member Posts: 3,250

    Is the survivor a try-hard?

    If they are not try-hard, how can they lose to a try-hard killer (if a survivor must beat a try-hard killer without being a try-hard? LOL)


    So, shouldn't the killer be a try-hard? If as a result of not playing try-hard, one is entitled to use "try-hard" as an insult when losing to a try-hard survivor, then yes, maybe.


    There are several ways to convince yourself against your loss.

    You can ridicule your opponent's efforts. But know that when such a player wins, instead of praising his opponent, he will always say "gid gud. In worse cases, they may add a more explicit expletive.


    Well... They will never change.

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    It's okay to try and win a multiplayer game.

    At a certain point, however, it's funny how desperate some people are to squeeze out any possible advantage out of a game to win.

    Especially when it's a game like this one.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 6,632

    Generally, people can try as hard as they want. But when you’re hard-tunnelling as a Nurse when you’ve already had a dc and not a single gen has been fixed… yeah no, that loses you respect in my book.

  • KSzerker
    KSzerker Member Posts: 191

    In the age of participation trophies, actually trying to win at something is uncool.

  • IamFran
    IamFran Member Posts: 1,681
    edited November 2022

    Tryhard is not simply playing good as killer doing insane moves and reads, those survivors of the chat were simply angry, a tryhard killer is the one who try to get the 4k at all cost, trying to force a 3-gen every match, camping, tunneling, slugging the penultimate survivor for avoiding the last one to get the hatch, always full meta perks and usually strong addons, that is a tryhard killer, being good in chase, downing people quickly and having game sense is not being tryhard. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    In my case, I think they were just salty over a loss, and instead of compliment in return, they just tried to "flex" in the end-chat. =)

    No tunneling or camping were involved in my last matches tho... So... Yeah.

  • Archael
    Archael Member Posts: 939

    For me "tryhard" is a person WHO is extremely sweaty about what they are doing, and instead of just playing and having fun, they sweat and loose life just to compensate for something.

    This is an insult.

    Tho... Noone ever knows if one is tryhard, or just so good. Maybe they got so easy 4k not because sweaty gameplay, but because experienced yet casual play, maybe because i was not good enough to keep up?

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,619

    Of course you are both right, but there are some situations, were the most brutal application of utmost force might not be necessary. Tunneling and killing someone off at 5 gens, for example: there are games were this happens, but unlessw you totally dig the 4min game, it will probably very onesides and not very profitable, BP-wise, as you were totally in the control of the match. The term "tryhard" seems to be mostly associated with one side having massively the upper hand, but stil not relaxing their gameplay one bit, but playing as hard and as tough as they can muster, leaving th other side absolute chance-less.

    Some survivors also like to call the killer "sweating tryhard" when someone DCs on their first down, not 1min into the game. Realistically the survivors have no real chance at this point, but the same goes for any normal gameplay on the killers side. An early DC is just a lose/lose situation for everyone still in the game and the killer can't be faulted for not wanting to farm, but getting into a real match asap, thus they "tryhard" with the opposition having no chance.

    With the game having neither a casual/ranked mode or a catchup mechanic these kind of situations will always arise again and again. Just ignore it and play any way you feel comfortable with.

  • Johnny_XMan
    Johnny_XMan Member Posts: 6,434

    For me it’s only hilarious when the party being called a “try hard” says they weren’t trying at all, meanwhile they tried everything in the book including bringing perks/playstyles that made their efforts excessive.

  • Terion
    Terion Member Posts: 810

    have you ever considered winning and getting the 4k is fun enough maybe? I dont see why anyone should feel responsible for some strangers fun. PVP games are ALL like that, only in DBD you have entitled people with their rulebook.

  • Wewantjason
    Wewantjason Member Posts: 288

    Tryhard is just what bad players call good players because they don't have anything better to say after losing. It's just someone acting like a punk because they lost. Frankly it's a compliment to me, because usually when I get that message I wasn't even trying at all. Hammers home how salty and bad the player saying it really happens to be.

  • PB_TORCHer
    PB_TORCHer Member Posts: 317

    It’s a sore loser term that calls yourself out as a lesser player trying to feel better

  • Rulebreaker
    Rulebreaker Member Posts: 2,672

    Outa genuine curiosity what is it called when your minimal brute force is considered their overkill? We've been called on being the usual try hard names when playing at usual aggression levels.

  • Aceislife
    Aceislife Member Posts: 483

    Actual skill does not make you a tryhard. Using the most sweatiest builds does.

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,619

    I guess thats called a "severe MMR messup", which is about a 33% chance.

  • Starrseed
    Starrseed Member Posts: 1,830

    So playing with the perks I like bad? Just because some one out there decide they are too good to be used. Does this apply to survivor to

  • Aceislife
    Aceislife Member Posts: 483

    I dont know what perks you like. But if all you use is meta builds and the best items/addons (Surv and Killer), yes you're a sweat.