Nerf nurse

You must nerf nurse already

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  • Viktor1853
    Viktor1853 Member Posts: 955

    Nurse is fine if you are good

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    And that's exactly why we need to talk about something really important.

    Is raspberry clafoutis better than apple pie, or vice versa? 🤔

    Personally, I think it depends on the moment of tasting 🤗

  • WeakestNurseMain
    WeakestNurseMain Member Posts: 308

    Now I'll give everyone the hottest take I can to spice up this thread: How about instead of nerfing or reworking Nurse, we revert her back to 2018 Nurse, who's with me?

  • Cyber_Atlas
    Cyber_Atlas Member Posts: 276

    You know. I started playing this game this year. HALF the time I played with Nurse people gave up. What is funny to me is not how op this killer is. It's that people don't even try most of the time. Many many times people gave up on me when they could have won. Prestige 50 40 80 guys giving up on a guy with 10-20h as nurse in the game. And you know what it means having less than 100h with this killer.


    When I play survivor I have a very good time playing with nurses and it's a killer I generally handle better than a couple of others (mostly thanks to my girlfriend that is op and can play against nurse very well).


    I understand the frustration of playing against god level nurses... But do you even ever play against such players? I have a much lower escape rate with killers like Plague compared to this one!

  • Cyber_Atlas
    Cyber_Atlas Member Posts: 276

    Before anyone replies saying killer sided blablabla. Yes it is op. But there is always going to be a "op killer better than others". You can suggest reworks and fancy ideas. But my point stays ^^ you shouldn't feel "defeated at the start". As you can escape more Nurses than what you think!


    + the trend of playing nurse as a killer is started by how unfair low mobility feel to play against certain maps with the current surv meta. So it is an antistress killer to main. Once you gitgud you win. Many killers can't say the same on every map

  • Huge_Bush
    Huge_Bush Member Posts: 5,473

    What is raspberry cauliflower and how can you suggest it’s better than apple pie??!??

  • burt0r
    burt0r Member Posts: 4,304

    What the hell is clafoutis?

    (I know i could google but let's engage in a conversation 😜)

  • burt0r
    burt0r Member Posts: 4,304
    edited November 2022

    😂😂😂

    At this point every time I read another "nerf nurse" thread headline i think of a small gnome just peaking out of the brush and quickly peep that catchphrase just to disappear again. Just like in some cartoon. That much of a joke has this topic and it's neverending repotion become for me.

    Especially posts like this that have the argumentative value as my above described comedy.

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 2,643
    edited November 2022

    This is where the biggest issue lies as far as I am concerned.

    Nurse is strong and of course her attacks being special attacks, along with double range (in particular) being nerfed could all help to make her easier to deal with. But as a former Nurse main the biggest issue I find is 90% of survivors appear to have no idea how to counter her beyond a corner juke or obvious double back. They appear to be all out of ideas after one or two obvious tactics and will even drop pallets randomly mid chase out of desperation.

    As a Nurse main I found I often got sloppy and went on autopilot mode, so when I did face actual good survivors I sometimes got rolled as I became lazy and complacent and didn't expect good countering. This is the problem, most players ARE casual in DBD and they are not able to deal with a killer as strong as Nurse when played competently and this is incredibly unfun for your average casual to deal with.

    Something definitely has to change

  • Bartlaus
    Bartlaus Member Posts: 1,038

    Survivors: "Nerf Nurse! Nerf Nurse! Nerf Nurse"


    Devs:

    "Past buffs to The Trapper have made him a wee bit over powered, so these changes are intended to adjust the most obviously overpowered elements:

    • The Trapper starts the trial with 0 traps (was 2)
    • amount of randomly spawned traps is reduced to 3 (was 6)
    • disarm time is reduced to 0,5 sec (was 3,5 sec)
    • escape attempt time is reduced to 0,3 sec (was 1,8 sec)


    Traps have been balanced to provide more consistent game experiences and to bring him up to our modern standard of play. We’ll continue monitoring how he performs, and potentially have more "changes" for him in the future. Muahaha..." (Entity giggles)

  • Entitled_survivor
    Entitled_survivor Member Posts: 828

    No

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    Sacrilege! I didn't say cauliflower, but clafoutis 😃

    The ultimate in culinary delicacy 😍

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    Google said: a type of flan made of fruit, typically cherries, baked in a sweet batter.

    Personally, I think it's not just a simple dish, it's a blessed dish straight from heaven, that the Gods invented one day of great goodness 🤗


    In fact, the DbD killers themselves love clafoutis 😛

    The survivors too!


    Claudette, for example, who is always hidden in the bushes 😣


    In fact, she's not hiding! She is looking for berries for her own recipes! 😮

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    Well luckily the majority of Nurse players are also not good. So it evens out.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    The sad part is everyone is just DCing or flat out quiting when facing a Nurse that they won't get any skills when dealing with her.....I'm a horrid Nurse player and When I decide to pop her out to practice with her I get 1-2 DCs after my first blink.....the majority of people who call for stupid reasons or just say NERF NURSE without adding anything new to the conversation probably don't have the skills to even deal with the babiest of nurses

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    What you say is interesting.


    I am a main nurse.


    Mind you, when I say "main", I don't mean "level of mastery", but "time spent".

    I think I have a good level with her, I know her mechanics, my muscle memory and reflexes are good; I am not at the level of tournament nurses, but I am doing well.

    I have almost no DC in early game when I play with it.

    Out of thousands of games, the number of early game DCs is really anecdotal, as is the number of salty survivors insulting me in the end chat.


    So, indeed, if the nurses who have a few hours with this killer know a lot of DC, it says a lot about the mentality and the level of those who DC...

  • Rovend
    Rovend Member Posts: 1,065

    Haha, at least they werent buffing survs perks just to leave them with a restriction that made them worse than before.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,956

    This is why I don’t respect this forum.

  • hiken
    hiken Member Posts: 1,188

    too many post were done but the only really really logical is the speciall attack m2, blight has special attacks while using his power and makes sense, both are strong that would balance out the insta down meta nurse wich is obnoxious and completely unbalanced... and i think even the most delusional nurse mains would agree to this, having such power is unhealthy for the game, is already a lot having to deal with omega blink and oduble recharge every single game.

  • hiken
    hiken Member Posts: 1,188
    edited November 2022

    if u have good addons they carry for the nurse as crack addons and insta down ones did it for billy back in the day and he got nerfed even when he was top and required some level of skill and now way mopre than before, why nurse is not receiving the same treat?-

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    Billy was the gold standard for a perfectly balanced killer. Both killers and survivors agreed that he doesn´t need a nerf.

    No one knows why he got the unjustified nerf. So not really comparable to Nurse in my opinion.

  • egg_
    egg_ Member Posts: 1,933

    Reminds me of something.... Majority of... Was it Dead Hard users? I think so... Yeah... Majority of Dead hard users couldn't use it properly, revert the change I guess.... /s

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

    No we must not.

  • AJStyIez
    AJStyIez Member Posts: 419

    Honestly just ban anybody that fuels the Nurse echo chamber without providing valuable insight and gameplay from now on. I dipped my hand in that pot a few times too a while ago but it’s old now because of how it keeps popping back up everywhere

  • hiken
    hiken Member Posts: 1,188
    edited November 2022

    eeem not really his basekit was completely fine his crack addons and insta down werent fair. besides nurse sure does need a nerf way more than billy needed thats for sure.

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    Turning the nurse's M1 into an M2 would deprive her of some attacks that are not even overpowered, which makes no sense.

    To deprive her of Starstruck, you just have to play on her TR.

    As for the "exposed" perks, only Devour Hope and MYC (when coupled with Flood of rage) are really overpowered and dangerous on her.

    I still agree about preventing the nurse from using NOED.

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,954

    Actually, as much as I love clafoutis, the Paris-Brest is my favourite pastry by far.

    I'm drooling just typing the name.

  • TotemSeeker91
    TotemSeeker91 Member Posts: 2,358

    Daily nerf nurse thread? Check

    Would it kill you guys to at least name it Nerf Nurse? Gosh, Nurse is a person 2

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,242

    Your idea was amazing, literally. Like damn, you just suggested something that will solve all her problems and make her fun for both sides!

    /s


    Seriously, if you're gonna go through the effort to make a nerf X/Y/Z thread, at least offer solutions or something to address the problem.

    Heck, I believe she will be fine if we just make her chain blink attacks special attacks.

  • Omans
    Omans Member Posts: 1,081

    Nurse is the killer that allows players to role-play the role of a dominating, too-strong killer.

    In a game that strives for balance that kind of character doesn't exist. Sadly, the devs seem to enjoy that kind of character being in the game.

  • AMOGUS
    AMOGUS Member Posts: 489

    I think the overheat was because of camping as Billy and how you could hold the saw forever and insta-down anyone who got close. That, and how as Billy you almost always want to be sawing... which is how chases against him would typically go. Saw, saw, saw.

    I suppose BHVR didn't like one or both of these...

  • AMOGUS
    AMOGUS Member Posts: 489

    I'm sorry but this doesn't work. Even bad players could use DH successfully. It's honestly even easier than learning Nurse, knowing to simply DH towards a pallet or vault isn't too difficult to learn.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    DH is still the second most used perk. So if the aim of the 6.1.0 patch was to chuckle up the meta.... uhm yeah...

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    I can´t remember any threads about this. I mean, there were threads about literally everything. But Billy had little to no nerf threads iirc.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    The whole mechanic didn´t made sense in that regard. Bubba was used predominantly to basement camp. The overheating mechanic didn´t change anything in that regard. Basement Bubbas used Insidious and reffed the chainsaw once someone attempted to unhook before the mechanic and they still do after it.

    So... its just something that attempts to overcomplicate the game. Nothing reliable to count on as survivor.

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  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012
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    hmmm

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 6,531

    Imagine if every thread had to have a unique name.

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878
  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,618

    To be fair the Reasons for the Nerf Nurse thread was started as a discussion about why is there so much vitriol directed at Nurse and how her unique game mechanics complicate the discussion. Some posters are just saying nerf Nurse in it but the thread was posted more of a discussion of the psychology behind it because the discussion around Nurse is more nuanced than the usual 'I think this might be too strong' or, alternatively, the 'I just want an advantage' reasons behind most calls for nerfs. The thread isn't a call for nerfs but rather a discussion as to why the nerf threads exist.

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    "Seriously, if you're gonna go through the effort to make a nerf X/Y/Z thread, at least offer solutions or something to address the problem."


    I completely agree.


    By the way, the more discussions there are about nursing, the more we see that there are actually two types of speakers on this forum:

    - Those who know how to discuss in a calm manner, respecting other people's opinions, reading, studying and discussing in a thoughtful and intelligent manner;

    - those who are only here to criticize, without proposing anything behind; these people are easily recognizable by the excessive use of generalizations and exaggerations whose form tries to impress, to hide an unfortunately rather empty background; we also find the fact of criticizing in a sharp way the opposite camp ("Your word is biased BECAUSE you don't think like me / because you play the nurse"; "You, nurses, you are (. ...); the ultimate was even reached by a member of the forum who declared; I quote; "I have no respect for the nurse players" ...; but it can just as well work the other way around, and someone whose only interventions would be to say, for example: "Anyway, you, the survivors, are stupid and you don't understand anything!" would correspond in the same way to this kind of behavior so sad ...


    Concerning the fact of changing the M1 into M2; at the risk of repeating myself, but it is not serious, because we cannot read each intervention either, and it is quite normal 🤗

    if we change her M1 to M2, she won't be able to use some skills like Jolt, Sloppy Butcher or K.O., which are not too dangerous on her 😌


    I understand that the reason why changing her M1 to M2 comes up so often is that people are thinking about the fact that she won't be able to use Starstruck anymore, for example: I completely agree about Starstruck, and for that, you just have to remove the nurse's TR when she carries a survivor 😊


    I also agree to prevent her from using NOED 👍️

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 878

    The ONLY place where it could be interesting to have it would be in private games, for trolling, with friends 🤣