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Legion and NOED

So I despise NOED on Legion because players force themselves to not use their power so they can get the 1 hit down, that's not how you play Legion. BUT, I'm going to eventually P3 my Legion and decided to get NOED just to see if I'm wrong and maybe it's cool on Legion.

Looking at the perks I have, Bitter Mutter, Remember Me, NOED, and STBFL, I'm going to use Joey's Mixtape and the ywllow mixtape for cooldown, I got to thinking maybe Legion can actually be good at the endgame. At this writing I haven't tried it yet nor can I today but have you guys tried this, am I wrong about Legion and NOED, do you think Legion's got Endgame material and no one knows yet?

Comments

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    @NuclearBurrito said:
    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

    Yeah I was thinking STBFL because I met this one Legion who did really good with it, it was in Lery's though so small spaces are good for that. He didn't have NOED but he was using the double cooldown and that perk and it was fine for him. He told me he'd recommend it for close encounters, thought this buiild would compliment that playstyle.

    Remember Me is probably one of the best perks for Legion, that alone is great for Endgame, I'd use Blood Warden but I don't have it yet.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    @HatCreature said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:
    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

    Yeah I was thinking STBFL because I met this one Legion who did really good with it, it was in Lery's though so small spaces are good for that. He didn't have NOED but he was using the double cooldown and that perk and it was fine for him. He told me he'd recommend it for close encounters, thought this buiild would compliment that playstyle.

    Remember Me is probably one of the best perks for Legion, that alone is great for Endgame, I'd use Blood Warden but I don't have it yet.

    Ah. I don't see STBFL being too good on Legion since he doesn't have issues with attack speed given how frenzy works

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    edited February 2019

    Remember me is pretty good on Legion, I personally don't run obsession perks though since I like to know if a survivor has an obsession perk

  • Salty_Pearl
    Salty_Pearl Member Posts: 1,367

    @NuclearBurrito said:

    @HatCreature said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:
    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

    Yeah I was thinking STBFL because I met this one Legion who did really good with it, it was in Lery's though so small spaces are good for that. He didn't have NOED but he was using the double cooldown and that perk and it was fine for him. He told me he'd recommend it for close encounters, thought this buiild would compliment that playstyle.

    Remember Me is probably one of the best perks for Legion, that alone is great for Endgame, I'd use Blood Warden but I don't have it yet.

    Ah. I don't see STBFL being too good on Legion since he doesn't have issues with attack speed given how frenzy works

    Does STBFL affect Feral Frenzy?

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    @Salty_Pearl said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:

    @HatCreature said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:
    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

    Yeah I was thinking STBFL because I met this one Legion who did really good with it, it was in Lery's though so small spaces are good for that. He didn't have NOED but he was using the double cooldown and that perk and it was fine for him. He told me he'd recommend it for close encounters, thought this buiild would compliment that playstyle.

    Remember Me is probably one of the best perks for Legion, that alone is great for Endgame, I'd use Blood Warden but I don't have it yet.

    Ah. I don't see STBFL being too good on Legion since he doesn't have issues with attack speed given how frenzy works

    Does STBFL affect Feral Frenzy?

    Probably. But if it does it's hitting on diminishing returns

  • laKUKA
    laKUKA Member Posts: 406

    LEGION can never activate NOED because we will instantly disconnect at the start of the game!

    Sorry! is for our health!

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807
    edited February 2019

    @laKUKA said:
    LEGION can never activate NOED because we will instantly disconnect at the start of the game!

    Sorry! is for our health!

    https://media.giphy.com/media/8lQyyys3SGBoUUxrUp/giphy.gif

  • DexyIV
    DexyIV Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 514

    People take it on Legion so they can maybe get more than 1 kill a game in coordinated games. Getting kills as them takes a long time, but is unavoidable. So, you'll eventually catch the survivor, then maybe get another kill or two off NOED

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    NOED and all insta down perks are hot garbage on Legion.
  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    NOED and all insta down perks are hot garbage on Legion.

    I agree completely with that, it's why I despise NOED on Legion, they refuse to use their power so they can get a down. Yeah more and more it's just sounding cheap.

  • No_Mither_No_Problem
    No_Mither_No_Problem Member Posts: 1,476
    edited February 2019
    Save the Best For Last, NOED, Play With Your Food, Make Your Choice

    For when you’re just that sick of being a 110 M1 Killer but Frenzy spam is mean.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646

    @Salty_Pearl said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:

    @HatCreature said:

    @NuclearBurrito said:
    I do think an endgame Legion is plausible. However I don't think NOED is the way to go about it.

    Instead I would recommend using Remember me since the Legion gets way more hits in than the average killer making him great at getting tokens for it (also for STBFL but that's less useful for Legion)

    I'd use Remember me, Blood warden, Mutter and Sloppy butcher/Bloodhound

    Normally I'd use thanatiphobia but this is an endgame build so I'll make an exception

    Yeah I was thinking STBFL because I met this one Legion who did really good with it, it was in Lery's though so small spaces are good for that. He didn't have NOED but he was using the double cooldown and that perk and it was fine for him. He told me he'd recommend it for close encounters, thought this buiild would compliment that playstyle.

    Remember Me is probably one of the best perks for Legion, that alone is great for Endgame, I'd use Blood Warden but I don't have it yet.

    Ah. I don't see STBFL being too good on Legion since he doesn't have issues with attack speed given how frenzy works

    Does STBFL affect Feral Frenzy?

    Yes it does stack

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646

    @HatCreature said:
    So I despise NOED on Legion because players force themselves to not use their power so they can get the 1 hit down, that's not how you play Legion. BUT, I'm going to eventually P3 my Legion and decided to get NOED just to see if I'm wrong and maybe it's cool on Legion.

    Looking at the perks I have, Bitter Mutter, Remember Me, NOED, and STBFL, I'm going to use Joey's Mixtape and the ywllow mixtape for cooldown, I got to thinking maybe Legion can actually be good at the endgame. At this writing I haven't tried it yet nor can I today but have you guys tried this, am I wrong about Legion and NOED, do you think Legion's got Endgame material and no one knows yet?

    It is your own opinion on how you play the killer. Some people will use mixtape for easy fast downs. I will just do duration and block window/pallet to hit them out of the stun. Or if end game body block them from exit and hit them down.

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    @Zanfer said:

    @HatCreature said:
    So I despise NOED on Legion because players force themselves to not use their power so they can get the 1 hit down, that's not how you play Legion. BUT, I'm going to eventually P3 my Legion and decided to get NOED just to see if I'm wrong and maybe it's cool on Legion.

    Looking at the perks I have, Bitter Mutter, Remember Me, NOED, and STBFL, I'm going to use Joey's Mixtape and the ywllow mixtape for cooldown, I got to thinking maybe Legion can actually be good at the endgame. At this writing I haven't tried it yet nor can I today but have you guys tried this, am I wrong about Legion and NOED, do you think Legion's got Endgame material and no one knows yet?

    It is your own opinion on how you play the killer. Some people will use mixtape for easy fast downs. I will just do duration and block window/pallet to hit them out of the stun. Or if end game body block them from exit and hit them down.

    I love the Mixtape combo, nothing toxic or wrong about it, it makes the Killer actually lethal with their power instead of a nuisance. I haven't tried the block the window and pallet out of stun yet, they always seem to find a way to get behind me and jump back over but it sounds amazing.

    I know everyone has their style with playing I just don't like the idea of purposefully crippling yourself just to get that bonus, that choice can cost you the game because the risk is very high. I've seen many Legions win because of it but a lot of others lose as well because they are still too slow and realize their power can close the gap but hurts them even more. Legion is super complicated with many mechanics it's annoying.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646

    @HatCreature said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @HatCreature said:
    So I despise NOED on Legion because players force themselves to not use their power so they can get the 1 hit down, that's not how you play Legion. BUT, I'm going to eventually P3 my Legion and decided to get NOED just to see if I'm wrong and maybe it's cool on Legion.

    Looking at the perks I have, Bitter Mutter, Remember Me, NOED, and STBFL, I'm going to use Joey's Mixtape and the ywllow mixtape for cooldown, I got to thinking maybe Legion can actually be good at the endgame. At this writing I haven't tried it yet nor can I today but have you guys tried this, am I wrong about Legion and NOED, do you think Legion's got Endgame material and no one knows yet?

    It is your own opinion on how you play the killer. Some people will use mixtape for easy fast downs. I will just do duration and block window/pallet to hit them out of the stun. Or if end game body block them from exit and hit them down.

    I love the Mixtape combo, nothing toxic or wrong about it, it makes the Killer actually lethal with their power instead of a nuisance. I haven't tried the block the window and pallet out of stun yet, they always seem to find a way to get behind me and jump back over but it sounds amazing.

    I know everyone has their style with playing I just don't like the idea of purposefully crippling yourself just to get that bonus, that choice can cost you the game because the risk is very high. I've seen many Legions win because of it but a lot of others lose as well because they are still too slow and realize their power can close the gap but hurts them even more. Legion is super complicated with many mechanics it's annoying.

    Agree it can be risky, but making it risky and fun is worth it for me personally ;)

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    @Zanfer said:

    @HatCreature said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @HatCreature said:
    So I despise NOED on Legion because players force themselves to not use their power so they can get the 1 hit down, that's not how you play Legion. BUT, I'm going to eventually P3 my Legion and decided to get NOED just to see if I'm wrong and maybe it's cool on Legion.

    Looking at the perks I have, Bitter Mutter, Remember Me, NOED, and STBFL, I'm going to use Joey's Mixtape and the ywllow mixtape for cooldown, I got to thinking maybe Legion can actually be good at the endgame. At this writing I haven't tried it yet nor can I today but have you guys tried this, am I wrong about Legion and NOED, do you think Legion's got Endgame material and no one knows yet?

    It is your own opinion on how you play the killer. Some people will use mixtape for easy fast downs. I will just do duration and block window/pallet to hit them out of the stun. Or if end game body block them from exit and hit them down.

    I love the Mixtape combo, nothing toxic or wrong about it, it makes the Killer actually lethal with their power instead of a nuisance. I haven't tried the block the window and pallet out of stun yet, they always seem to find a way to get behind me and jump back over but it sounds amazing.

    I know everyone has their style with playing I just don't like the idea of purposefully crippling yourself just to get that bonus, that choice can cost you the game because the risk is very high. I've seen many Legions win because of it but a lot of others lose as well because they are still too slow and realize their power can close the gap but hurts them even more. Legion is super complicated with many mechanics it's annoying.

    Agree it can be risky, but making it risky and fun is worth it for me personally ;)

    I think I'll try it out at least once and see how it goes. I hate having a deep opinion on something I haven't tried, hell if I do this I might actually be able to use NOED for once, my games don't usually get this far XD

  • LegitAdventurer
    LegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    I used to main Legion pretty hard and I think No Ed is a pretty bad perk in general. But it's ultimately even worse on legion.