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Is Blood Emporium bannable?

Nick
Nick Member Posts: 1,237

There's an open source program called Blood Emporium which lets you automatically complete bloodwebs. It says that there are no interactions with the game's memory or process and shouldn't be bannable. Can anyone confirm?

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  • SkeletalElite
    SkeletalElite Member Posts: 2,709
    edited December 2022

    all it does is use image recognition to identify the position of nodes and then control your mouse to buy them for you based on your preferences, won't get you banned

    it's no different to sitting there clicking the nodes yourself, just automates the process

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,237

    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Hopefully Behaviour releases something to help with that

  • UpdatedCake
    UpdatedCake Member Posts: 34

    I was using Blood Emporium but it's kinda slow, so I stopped (it's literally better to level it up manually than using slow BE). But in this case you can be 100% sure you won't get banned. Risk is only when you are using something that works with in-game files and manipulate with them. Blood Emporium is just basic script with image recognition - it takes your monitor, recognize what do you have in bloodweb and based on math and priorities you entered into it it will just click on icons. That's all. Everything is done by this script, it doesn't operate with in-game files.

    EAC won't recgonize it, as much as it doesn't work with in-game files. For EAC it's just regular mouse clicking, that's all.

    It's good to be careful but when you know how the program works, you can also define if it's risky or not. For example Dead by Daylight Icon Toolbox is software to change your icons in-game, it gives you no advantage at all, it just change graphic of few things. You won't get banned for this either as much as this isn't some active software running on the background and it doesn't edit anythingbut textures. But regarding this you are in higher risk just because it somehow operates with in-game files. Well, Toolbox is completely safe too, it's just comparison :)

  • InvadeGames
    InvadeGames Member Posts: 458

    is a bit slower than manually selecting but it also is far less tedious when you have 500k and up and you can just have it run while you do other things.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    To get to prestige 100 its over 14 hours of just spending bloodpoints.

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 4,520

    Considering that it doesn't hook into the game process and only uses image recognition, I doubt you'd get banned for it. However, as with all Third Party programs you use them at your own risk.

  • HugTechLover
    HugTechLover Member Posts: 2,482

    Pretty certain Mandy said on the forums before that altering icons can end in bans.

  • UpdatedCake
    UpdatedCake Member Posts: 34

    Then let me ask, why do they let streamers and fog whisperers to use it as they wish?

  • TheArbiter
    TheArbiter Member Posts: 2,615

    If you even have to ask "is this bannable" of course it is smh

  • UpdatedCake
    UpdatedCake Member Posts: 34

    I searched for those informations and all I found is that mods are basically saying, it's not something they will ban you for but if EAC will some day change it's function and will detect custom icons, you can be banned.

    Which is ofc true but also not very likely to happen. Of course, you are using all 3rd party apps at your own risk however if you have at least some small experience and knowledge around EAC and DBD and how those 3rd party programs are working, you can pretty easily say that the risk is near 0. Because to get banned for something like that, you would need to EAC get changed which would be probably first on PTB and if not, there are still nice amount of people diging out new data, even around EAC. I am not 100% sure but I think it's pretty safe to say that you would know about this change in advance.

  • UpdatedCake
    UpdatedCake Member Posts: 34

    Uh, I don't know where my comment disappeared, wanted to add something. Nevermind, let's try again.

    I've been searching for this information and all I found from mods and official statements, that game won't ban you for this but EAC can potentially change how it's working and detect icon changing (which very likely won't ever happen).

    But if that would happen, it would be either first on PTB or someone would dig it out from data mining before it was released. And if you are still not satisfied, when you have some corrupted or weird files in those folders, EAC will warn you before you turn on the game.

    As much as nobody can ever be 100% sure, I am still pretty sure you would know about this kind of change somehow in advance.

  • Thrax
    Thrax Member Posts: 974

    Probably say that to cover it being used as some hairbrained excuse for getting a ban

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    As for an hypothetical way for these icons to end up banning someone: if the icon is crafted, corrupted, it may somehow make the program bug and trip something for EAC to notice.

    This kind of problem isn't unheard of. (If I recall, there was something with mp3 or jpg or both ... allowing to exploit a buffer overrun on Windows years ago)