PSA Don't blame the killer for slugging you if...
It's endgame, and you decide to just stay under a pallet slugged. The killer has no way of knowing if you have power struggle/flip-flop or not. So it's either letting you bleed out for 4 minutes, or potentially giving you a free escape.
I know I, for one, will always let you bleed out. If you don't wanna bleed out, get out from under the pallet. If you don't wanna get out from under the pallet, don't blame the killer for not picking you up. If you're not gonna get out from under the pallet and then trash talk the the killer for refusing to pick you up, you're a bit entitled imo 🙄
Let me clarify fully: This is during endgame, when there's no one left to save the person, the person has no UB, all they're doing is waiting to bleed out under a pallet.
Another clarification edit: I am not saying that this combo is bad, I'm not saying survivors shouldn't run it, I'm not saying survivors are entitled if they run it, I'm not saying I'm entitled to survivors giving up the escape by getting out from under the pallet if they have the combo. What I am saying is that a killer might try to prevent it from triggering, and the only thing they can do is leave you on the ground. They might not be trying to BM you at all. They're countering a potential play.
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if u ask me u were the entitled one there i'd rather let them go than wait 4 minutes, either way in such a scenario i'm already guessing the others were already out and for once someone is using a meme perk rather than meta
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I don’t ever blame the killer for slugging me unless it’s egc and they closed the hatch and want to watch me bleed out. Okay, sweaty Nurse who slugs at 5 gens and lets everyone bleed out is also uncalled for. She could just hook everyone or at least give us a shorter bleed out when everyone is on the floor.
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i had two times bleedout today. one by a twin who used me as bait and one by a sadako just for fun i guess.
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Ok, Ill make sure to crawl out from underneath the pallet to make sure my teammates have no chance to save me while Im on death hook.
Just for you buddy! 🤗
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Thats different tho. Im specifically talking about survivors in endgame being slugged under a pallet. At that point I dont want to BM you, but im not about to give you a free escape because you equipped a Jpeg.
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Honestly as killer it just isn't worth my time to waste potentially 4 minutes to wait for them to bleed out, I would rather just go next asap and if that means they were Chad enough to run a mostly useless perk like Power Struggle and get away... so be it.
That being said, BM me with bags etc during the match and I will be extremely petty and happily slug everyone and bleed them out for the entire 4 minutes while I make a cup of tea.
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Oh sure. Im entitled because I refuse to allow a jpeg to give survivors a win for free when they could move like 5 feet and let me hook them. No. I downed them, I outplayed them. Im not losing it because of a perk.
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My brother in christ XD i said when it's end game, and there's no one left and all you're doing is wasting time. Can you read things?
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Cool story bro
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That's fair if you'd rather move on. But it shouldn't be expected. Some people try to win, both killer and survivor. Survivors will do all sorts of things that take time, if they give them a chance to win, which is ok. The killer can do the same. I'll put on a video on the side and keep track of the survivor, if they get out from under a pallet then i'll pick them up, if they dont then they'll stay slugged until they die.
I don't think it's a chad move to use a perk that gives you a second chance because you pressed space under a pallet. Sorry, regardless of how meta it may or may not be.
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Who can blame you?
If there is someone to blame you, you probably will never understand the feelings of a killer in the future.
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I can
just started skimming through it once I realized it was nonsense
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That's not a free escape. If they hit you with the power struggle flip-flop combo, and escape, then they earned that escape. Chances are low that they have that combo anyway, so just take the risk.
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We'll agree to disagree about how earned that escape is. But that's fair. if they wanna use that combo, and be slugged under a pallet in case the killer picks them up, thats totally cool. I just want survivors who aren't running that combo to understand there's a reason other than BM that the killer might be slugging you under a pallet during endgame. And if you are gonna run that combo, then you kinda forfeit the right to call the killer out, cuz at that point they're doing the only thing they can to counter it.
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Your skimming skills are sub par, then.
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never claimed to be an expert skimmer
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im glad we've reached an understanding XD
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Me too
stay updog my friend
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I only bleed out survivors who use boil over and run to hook deadzone over and over again. after you wiggle free twice and run back to the same spot that is it, its time for you to crawl on your belly like a snake.
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its not for free, they died there on purpose
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It's two perks, and you must've given them a LOT of time to recover, or else Flip-flop doesn't give enough charge to allow Power Struggle to trigger. And even then, they still have to make it out.
If the survivors manage to waste so much of your time that this incredibly garbage perk combo can do its work, you didn't outplay jack.
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Think i had a guy once complain i left him on the ground while i was downing and hooking someone else, he obviously crawled far away so i couldn't find him, then complained how i left him to bleed out for over 2 minutes or so.
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Whats the problem if the survivor has power Struggle flip Flop then escape ?
You already have a 3K why do you need to tryhard for the 4k ?
Wasting both 4 minutes time is unfun. At least you get one more chase for the hatch its more entertaining
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If I load into a match, I know that I have the potential to be slugged for 4 minutes regardless of my personal actions / how the game progresses.
This may potentially be alleviated by system changes in the future, but currently, it's just another non-issue/gameplay possibility that people get worked up over.
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Ehh you seem to be the entitled one here. Just pick them up. If they have power struggle, then they get value out of a meme perk and deserve to get out. 9/10 they were just sitting on a pallet incase a tm8 could get a pallet save.
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That scenario is pretty stupid yeah
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It's 15% of your progression for Power Struggle. And yeah, you down the survivor, leave them slugged while you push out the other teammates, then come back for the survivor. It's more than enough time for Power Struggle Flip Flop to trigger. I actually did outplay the survivor that went down. And I'm not about to give them a chance to undo that. How much do you think is "so much of my time"? you can literally trigger that ######### in like 10 seconds or so.
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No, nobody deserves to be given anything in a multiplayer game. What is this attitude? You dont deserve value out of your perk, the killer doesn't deserve the kill. However, If you dont wanna be slugged, and you dont have that combo, you can get out from under the paller, or else you can expect the killer to potentially want to leave you slugged to prevent that perk from happening, and if you then trash talk the killer because of it like they were actively trying to BM you, it's kinda stupid. Ultimately you can BM or trash talk for whatever reason you want cuz its a game. Whatever. But how the ######### is the person trying to counter a perk combo the one in the wrong in this situation?
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Well , you are in for some rude awakening once basekit unbreakable update hits. They will always crawl under pallets and you will have no choice but to face that perk every single time since it will gain more value.
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Your family must be proud.
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Who actually runs that combo
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Lets just agree to disagree on this. I don't think these two perks require enough for the value they give. But it's whatever. The fact of the matter is that it's in the game, there's nothing wrong with survivors using it, all I think is that you shouldn't expect the killer not to try and counter it and if you expect the killer to just pick you up and trash talk the killer for not doing so even though all you could do to avoid being slugged for 4 minutes is moving away from the pallet, then imo you are entitled cuz you think the killer just has to risk getting hit by a perk combo, and potentially lose a kill just so YOU don't get left on the ground.
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I am well aware. Sure, it will be a lose lose situation unless they don't have the combo. At that point there's nothing one can do. But that's not what I'm saying. Im not even saying people shouldn't use that combo. What I'm saying is: the killer is not trying to BM you if they slug you during endgame, when there's no one left, under a pallet, they're trying to counter a specific perk combo, and if you expect them to not even try to counter it, and then bm the killer for it, I think you're entitled.
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Seems justified to me, I’d let them bleed out too. They’re laying there for a reason which would make me suspect that build. If they didn’t want to bleed out they would move, that’s fair and the option is theirs. Same goes for the people that crawl to the far corner of the map where there isn’t a hook in range to wiggle off.
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I've been hit by it. And well, the fact of the matter is that it exists, so I'm not gonna risk it. Slugging is the only thing the killer can do to counter that perk combo in that scenario.
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Yeah but like... how often do you get hit by it, and 2 perks to hopefully get away, I'd say they deserve it
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No, they don't. They don't deserve to have me cooperate in their perk combo triggering. Just like I don't deserve any cooperation form them on anything. I will try to prevent the perk combo from triggering, just like they should prevent my plays from working.
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It's 15% of your progression for Power Struggle. And yeah, you down the survivor, leave them slugged while you push out the other teammates, then come back for the survivor. It's more than enough time for Power Struggle Flip Flop to trigger.
That's still two perks, a ton of time, and the investment of other survivors, and it still requires the survivor to go down directly under a pallet. Not to mention that, if someone else is around, you're also at risk of getting pallet stunned as soon as you pick them up, so the perk makes no difference.
I actually did outplay the survivor that went down.
No, dear, you did not. The outcome of a chase is always a down, unless the killer gets really dramatically outplayed. There are no infinites, a survivor getting chased can and will inevitably go down.
And if the survivor managed to go down near able teammates, under a pallet, to plan specifically for the use of this perk, they outplayed you, not the other way around.
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You really think a killer downing a survivor at a loop is not them outplaying the survivor? But getting out of the killer's grasp because the survivor held M1 for 10 seconds under one of 15+ pallets around the map, like it's somehow difficult to find the things, because they equipped 2 jpegs is an outplay?... ok man cool. Whatever, I don't care, we'll agree to disagree on that.
Also, like Ive said before, whatever your opinion on how much value for effort this perk combo gives you is irrelevant. The point of the post is, when there is no one in the map except for the downed survivor and the killer, the killer may leave them on the ground if they're under a pallet, because it is the only thing they can do to avoid the perk combo triggering.
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the better version is the survivors that call killers a slugger after insisting on wiggling and crawling to an area without hooks
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I mean if you leave them to bleed out you -are- outplaying their perk.
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Lmao ok dude. 😂 You go on playin the way you play. Have a good day.
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Killer could have risked it, survivor could have just moved. I know this forum loves to circlejerk one side but it takes two to create this situation.
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She wasn't trying the whole condemned strat?
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Not really, since you still don't get the kill.
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Nobody's going to be happy having their time wasted for 4 minutes. Just pick them up. If they have power struggle/flip-flop, then they probably escape if they're close to the exit. If they don't, then you get to hook them.
Everyone thinks they're entitled to something. Killers think they're entitled to a kill, survivors think they're entitled to escape, but the reality is that nothing is free. Escapes/Kills have to be earned. Not necessarily directing this part at you in particular, but just felt like it needed to be said.
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I do for fun and/or stun challenges at times. I also 100% expect that I will be bled out and accept that is a likely possibility as soon as I equip Flip Flop and Power Struggle. Bleeding me out if I'm under a pallet is 100% the right call for the Killer. It's just one of those perk combos that you should expect it if you equip it.
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Your time on this earth is far more valuable than the four minutes it takes to watch them bleed. This is also holding their time hostage as well. For all you know they have Unbreakable so either way it's not a guarantee; pick them up and let come what may.
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I don’t care about the survivor’s experience or time. I play for me.
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If they do indeed implement the basekit Unbreakable, those snakes won't stay down anymore
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