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Why does BHVR allow/tolerate stream sniping?

Given it isn't a bannable offense and all despite it being cheating.

Comments

  • LittleBigSunset
    LittleBigSunset Member Posts: 259

    Because ultimately attempting to police it is futile. Stream sniping is something that is already incredibly difficult to prove and in addition an accusation that gets thrown about by lots of entitled streamers who think that just because they lost they have to have been stream sniped. Which means it's not going to work at all whichever way they decide to police it.

    If you need considerable evidence to report stream sniping, good luck getting it. Snipers can easily hide their names/ use alt accounts/log out/have plausible deniability (eg: I was only stopping by before the match/I saw your scratch marks). Unless you literally get recorded evidence of your opponent sniping you it's a futile endeavour.

    If you DON'T need considerable evidence to file a report, streamers will be able to get their opponents investigated on the suspicion of stream sniping, even when they have no evidence whatsoever that they did. It's just added paranoia to the already considerable paranoia and potentially bad attention that comes with versing DBD streamers. No need to add fuel to the fire.

    It's a lose-lose situation, basically.

  • WesCravenFan
    WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,637

    It is not cheating to use information YOU are putting out there. YOU are streaming your content. And YOU put your name in plain view.


    Is it cheap? Yeah. Did you bring it on yourself? Also yes.


    Also, to nitpick: cheating is when you break the rules. Since there isn't a rule against stream sniping, it isn't cheating.


    It IS bannable by Twitch, though.

  • SkeletalElite
    SkeletalElite Member Posts: 2,890

    Because it's unenforceable and avoidable


    use a delay and use anonymous mode.

  • DBDVulture
    DBDVulture Member Posts: 2,437

    Not Queen made a post years ago. It's not part of DBD - it's a streaming issue.

    Dont want to get sniped? Add a stream delay or don't stream.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,375
    edited December 2022

    For the simple reason it's impossible to actually prove in any way unless the person doing it admits to it.

    I remember during the earlier PUBG/Fortnite days, there were controversies as the games actually tried to dish out punishments for it based on situations that merely seemed "suspicious" but didn't have any undeniable evidence and then it was later shown there was no streamsniping involved. It was just a case of the accusing player not knowing the full context, what the "streamsniper" actually saw and heard in-game and so on.

    I have zero doubt that if there was some way to conclusively prove it 100%, more games would ban for it.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Because it's crummy to do, but not something you can really ban someone for as it's nearly impossible to prove, and occurs on a different platform.

    A few games have tried to make it bannable, but it ended up being a bit of a paper tiger.

  • Dionysus42
    Dionysus42 Member Posts: 427

    Just don't stream. Adapt.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167
    edited December 2022

    Why do these people always look at my cards when Im playing poker and put them on the table for everyone to see? How come it isnt bannable?

    You chose to show your game to everyone, its not cheating if you openly show your hand.

  • tippy2k2
    tippy2k2 Member Posts: 5,216
    edited December 2022

    As others have stated, even if you decided to do it, how do you even prove it?

    I've had friggin hunches make me check a random locker in a match only to find a survivor hiding. There was no in game reason to make me do that. I didn't see marks or blood or hear anything. Just a gut feeling that something felt off. That's not even taking into consideration just experience and knowing weird places people like to hide that I randomly check from playing against others.

    To someone streaming, it very easily could look like I sniped them because they didn't see any good reason why I acted the way I did. If you stream, this is a risk you take on.

  • FMG15
    FMG15 Member Posts: 530

    Because they are very little countermechanisms agaisnt it. And how are you gonna prove that you got sniped?