Blight and Nurse

Wouldn't really call a 3v1 match a fair assesment tbh. That's not really a case of blight being too strong but your team abandoning you.

What do you think the most balanced killer is now then? Which killers powerlevel should be the standert?

I despise facing Blight. I see him so often in so many games and I’m tired of seeing him over and over again. Against an experienced one, it’s just like Nurse and Spirit…you’re gonna lose. Unless you have a competent team. Even then it is probably still just gonna be an L for you.

Overall I think Blight is fine base-kit. He has no glaring issues other than my own personal boredom of facing him. He’s an oppressive killer but that’s just how he is designed. He’s always going to be be that kind of killer just like Nurse.

Only thing I would say is he should get the Nurse/Spirit treatment where most of his add-ons are niche or gimmicky and he has two or three strong add-ons. Reason I say that is because he can afford that. Look at the other two best killers, Nurse has maybe two or three strong add-ons and the rest are niche but she is STILL the best in the game and does not need oppressive add-ons. Spirit is the exact same way. She has three great add-ons, two good yellow ones and the rest are gimmick add-ons.

There is no reason for Blight to have so many oppressive add-ons for how strong he already is.

When does it stops? Look no further than V.H.S to see how that path ends.

 even if the survivors appeared on an empty map without pallets and windows, the killer would still not have enough time to make 12 hooks before starting all the generators

let's say the killer spends 20 seconds to find surv, shift w (without dh) takes 30 seconds + taking into account the animation, the average hook time is 10 seconds, during this time the killer loses 3 generators, while the killer needs to make 11 more hooks

and now add palettes, windows and dh here

so no, most killers are literally non-viable

Are you are a meme lord? This has to be a meme. A goof. A swerve. A joke.

Both sides can use aura builds and they are fun!

Like last match i had to use Fogwise for the archives challenge and also slapped on Wiretap. Seeing where the killer was most of the time was a lot of fun.

if you didn't make 1 generator for a12 hooks, it only means that you play very badly,

Well, if you don't repair generators, then even if you have 9999 lives, you still lose

(and there is no even the strongest killer with 9999999 hours in the game for pestilence, purely physically, would not have time to kill you until you made at least 1 generator, so the problem is in your skills)

People want to play things that can actually stand a chance against decent Survivors. Not the ones where you're forced to spend most of the game going through the motions and unable to really use your power, because playing safe can be so effective. That either means strong perks, or a strong basekit, and the strong basekit is generally more fun. You don't get stuck on Hold W Round Pallet.

Playing strong Killers doesn't mean wanting easy wins, it means wanting agency within the game.

Clearly doctored.

That just sounds like "blanket wreck what makes a Killer good". It doesn't even address what can actually be a problem in practice (effectively endless power uptime and exposed hits combined).

Even a 10% nerf to his speed would cut down the amount of tiles he can get a hit on an absurd amount. It's why green speed is so good, you can make it to the pallet or window before the survivor more often. It's why most people say just nerf the op add-ons and say his base kit is fine, because his base kit really is fine.

if a survivor is on the floor and there is a killer nearby, JUST DO GEN

you run towards the camping bubba and then wonder why you died

if the killer is next to the fallen player, he does not control the generators, which means you can repair them freely, and if the killer run to protect the generator, then you can easily raise the survivor

it's like how the killer will stand still and spam m1, you run up to him, fall down and demand a nerf

lol

Sure, but it all depends what a person finds more fun. People who want mobility are going to be inclined to one of those two, for a start.

There's things about any Killer that can drive someone off--Spirit's absurd reliance on audio cues and lopsided information feeding, Wesker attempting to cause hearing damage (and being licensed), Plague being generally disgusting, Pyramid Head controlling in the weirdest way possible, etc.

And many of those are less viable. Things like Oni being just an M1 killer until you can actually get a hit, Spirit's aforementioned asymmetrical information game (she can't hide her audio without Furin and terror radius games, Survivors can be quiet), Hag losing to a flashlight, etc.

It's a joke about how dramatic his chase music is. You have to give up on hearing almost anything through it if you want your hearing intact. xD

Mostly using a Spirit profile because we don't have Pinhead onwards yet (Spirit was the only one I got to P3 before the reset, but that's because I didn't want to lose my perks on him and start from scratch... and I stopped playing for a while right after doing P1 x_x)

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But... those aren't what make the Killers problematic.

Like, you're saying that Nurse should have even less mobility than normal Killers. Without the new Campbell's Last Breath, her point to point mobility isn't any better than an M1 Killer's (she ignores obstacles, which is the strong part, and her instantaneous speed catches people off guard). Making her teleport slower isn't a balance pass, it's fundamentally destructive to the Killer's ability to function: it creates a situation where even well-targeted and well-timed blinks would be avoidable, just because of enforcing slow transit time.

And for Blight, you'd fundamentally take away the Killer's ability to play around areas with obstacles, or loops, except for the people already really good with the alchemist vial. Which shows that at best you'd just raise the skill floor to do anything a ton and annoy a lot of people (not everyone that plays a Killer has god-tier mechanical abilities at it), and at worst overnerf it so much that entire maps become unplayable either because you can't line up something to slam into or avoid things when you need to. Plus a similar issue if you target the speed instead: less dangerous, easier to dodge, loses the whole mobility aspect, requires even more obstacles that he can hit (because speed factors into maximum distance factors into when obstacles are needed), and in general doesn't fix the parts that are actually broken.

Nurse's problem is a fundamental design one: she goes through walls and can't be looped. Making her teleport much slower won't change those parts, it just makes the experience miserable in a "punish the people that enjoy Nurse" way. That isn't balancing, it's trying to force people out of playing something you don't like.

Blight's problem, as everybody except you seems to agree, is that he has some incredibly stupid addons that just lead to infinite power usage and instadowns.

Then again, you've made threads complaining about regression perks, complaining about aura perks, and now complaining about any Killer that managed to get a 4k from people being stupidly altruistic. Your balance ideas are seriously out of line with the game in general.

So every killer should just trash solo's in any match without much effort? Sounds like a balanced experience to me, maybe you should play survivor for a while. Yes, mastering Blight takes a while due to maps and stuff (compared to Nurse), but once you're on a specific level you will just win most your games, if you have some talent for him and know how to efficiently play killer in general. The game isn't supposed to be balanced around "Shadowborn and nothing else" lol, imagine you could easily win without perks against a good swf with 4x4 meta perks. I played Spirit in comp tournaments for a while against heavily coordinated teams and great chasers and even i lose many of my matches in pubs if i don't use perks or add-ons with her (she's weaker than Blight though). As i said, once you get to a certain level, there is not much even a good team can do against a good Blight on many balanced maps, as the only counterplay against good Blights are pallets (there are some duck-techs but those only work inconsistently and the Blight can play around it). But in the end it depends on maps, perks and add ons a lot.