Eruption Nerf: BHVR - This Is A Bad Idea.

The ONLY problem eruption had was the inability to do anything - that's just not engaging nor fun. No one was complaining about the damage eruption did. This is a SIGNIFICANT nerf to gen control with this change, and imho, an overnerf. Here's why. With this nerf, it's gen control potential got nerfed TWICE. It's losing preventing 30 SECONDS of repair time. That's a HUGE nerf already That's a loss of 33% repair time PER survivor affected (as survivors hit would be preventing from repairing for 30 seconds). On TOP of that, now it loses 10% of it's current progress. That means if the gen is at 50%, it's doing a mere 5%...and that's on a perk that not only has a cooldown, but also require the killer to spend time to stop and manually kick the generator. That is a MASSIVE nerf making this a practically useless perk for gen regression and instead moves it to an info perk.

I'll say again, though, no one had a problem with the damage the perk does. It already did minor damage, and it required kicks. That's a lot to pay for just to get a small 10% reduction. Now it will ALWAYS be less than how it was pre-nerf. I agree the survivor disabling effect should have gone away, but you shouldn't have double dipped and also removed it's regression potential. That is a 33% potential nerf (depending if a survivor got hit with the effect), and a guaranteed loss of regression swapping it to CURRENT progress. This is an absolutely terrible balance pass on this perk. Revert CURRENT progress to a flat 10%.

Ouch, i hated eruption but they pretty much gutted it.

To be fair though

I think overall changing most if not all generator damaging effects to current progress instead of total would be a good change

IF and only IF the survivor gen speed perks/items get hit too.

One of the hardest things to balance in this game is the huge variety in how fast a gen can go. Making it more streamlined will make things waay easier to balance in the future

As much as I hate eruption I would agree that they definitely went too far with nerfing the regression aspect. They're making the same mistake they made with pop. Not gonna lose any sleep though.

Yes, those are great ideas. I have seen them and posted some here. But most responses weren't really that constructive, most people just initiated fights and didn't agree on anything. Seeing all the posts of suggestions to Eruption that removed the incapacitated but upped the regression and removed the cooldown, make it activate on hooks so survivors can counter play it. Most responses being people angry saying that the perk was fine, it was bad against SWF and not that great.

Honestly, this nerf is harsh, and i don't think the regression nerf is warranted, but damn if seeing the perk get destroyed like this after all the discussions isn't kinda of amusing.

I think that issue boils down to the inability to balance the game for both the low end and the high end. On one side, you've got games where the killer is running four slowdowns and the survivors are lucky if they can finish a single gen because none of them are particularly good loopers and they just keep getting their progress nuked by their downed teammates. On the other side, you've got genuinely skilled killers who can't get more than three hooks before five gens have popped because there's just too many resources for equally skilled survivors to delay them with (to say nothing of the resources to streamline said gens.)

Basing gen times on MMR bracket would probably help, though that opens up its own slew of problems.

I think targeting current progress only works if a Killer can control what they use it on and when it goes off (see: Pop), and even then, the cap shouldn't be set so that at 50% progress you lose... less than 5s.

That's the problem with current progress. This proposed number, 10% of current progress, means if it goes off when a gen is half complete, it takes off as much time as some Killer animations.

Killers don't have any shortage of aura perks (although some of them just have ridiculously long cooldowns for their utility--I'm All Ears, for instance).

What this has done is create an aura perk that gives you information you already knew (someone is on a gen you kicked, because the scream told you that), and most killers can't make any use of (wow, 6s of knowing someone's on that gen I already knew they were on, but I just downed someone so I should do something about that).

There's only like one regression perk that hasn't been kneecapped (and even PR took SOME hit) in the last nine months, and gens are only getting done faster and more efficiently due to other changes, even without speedup perks or items.

At that time PR was nerfed. It was quite strong as a perk. Now it is in such a good spot.

As I mentioned, if there are some people crying about PR it will be because they don’t have much experience in the game, like the occasional post about Windows of Opporunity shows.

Eruption definitely needed a nerf. It was miserable to play against without comms. However, I can't see any of the logic behind this choice of nerfs.

The regression - It is now worse than the current version of Pop, which is pretty damn bad already. This perk was never used for its regression. Pre-nerf, they could have removed the regression entirely and the perk's usage would likely not have dropped at all. So yea, not sure what their thoughts were here.

The aura reading - What? I don't get how this is useful, at all. The ONLY way it can be useful, is if you slug. You can stop and look around after you have downed your survivor, but you only see people that were working on gens. You don't get to see people setting up for flashlight saves for example. Next, by the time you go through the pickup animation, the travel distance to the hook, and the hooking animation, the survivors you did see have likely moved on well after the 10 seconds have expired. Floods and BBQ are just infinitely better perks in place of Eruption now, even with the measly regression factored in.

Could have just added entity blocking instead. It wouldn't even step on DMS's toes either. They could have also just reverted the perk to it's original form. I just, don't know what they were thinking with these changes. Regardless, it being addressed is good for the health of the game. Just sad they gutted it out of existence, like Pop and Ruin.

This! I've had to deal with that horrible perk wayyy too much. I hope it stays dead.

Agreed. I've said it before, but Eruption is absolutely carrying killers.

Salty? You are correct. Eruption was one of the most broken perks added to DBD. Glad it's dead.

You are delusional if you think pain res is not gonna be the next thing people complain until its useless, unless the new chapter has some incredibly good regression, I expect pain res to get nerfed in the nect midchapter update, maybe deadmans along with it.

Pain Res is already neutered alongside DMS.

It used to give you info on the gen, DMS lasted 45s instead of a mere 30s and Merciless Storm caused both perks to be nerfed.

You need to devote two or three (Agitation) perk slots for 15% regression + 30s blocking.

I have to agree that this is a terrible change. Incapacitation was an issue but they way over nerfed this.

I personally never cared that I got dead handed for distance back in the day. But that didn’t mean the perk wasn’t broken. Eruption IS broken and IS a problem, solely because of incapacitation, and the fact you could (still can with this nerf too) get hit with eruption working in a gen previously kicked ages ago that was at 0, and then you’d be out of the game for 25 seconds. Things can be broken, regardless of your fun in dodging it or not.