STOP LISTENING TO KILLER MAINS!!!!

You could run Devour Hope in ten games and most likely in nine of them it will get cleansed before it gives you any value.

NOED I actually agree with you is still to this day a bit of a BS perk. However that’s only in certain scenarios- if it coincidentally spawns near a hooked survivor then the killer can just camp an easy kill and the other survivors can’t do anything but leave. That’s boring. But generally, I would say most people in my games now will look for the totem and cleanse it before attempting the save.

Healing your teammates should be faster than healing yourself. Everything else they’ve done in regards to healing should at least be given the benefit of the doubt until the PTB. The main issue I have with it is getting a teammate to heal you is clearly much easier in a SWF, so the issue of closing the gap between solo and SWF comes to the front again.

As for the perk changes, again people need to actually just wait and see. On paper the Pain Res change is much worse than the DH change. The COH change clearly being the most dramatic, but self healing quickly is an issue so it’s not surprising this has happened. You basically couldn’t drop chase at any point if a boon was up, and that’s not healthy for the game. But I circle back to what I just said- this change will affect solo players way more and that isn’t good so I’m mixed on this.

Some of the changes are quite healthy, and some really aren't and they will further push the game in a direction that no one wants. But killers should have some advantage over survivors because it is a 1v4 after all, and they have previously stated that they want the kill rates overall to go up. But they always overdo their nerfs, and then go back on it afterwards. Billy somehow still got nerfed and Nurse buffed, as if she needed the buff 😅

The group that's going to get hit the most is SoloQ-players, and how is that anything new?

Also, I haven't seen killers use totems since Thana got nerfed... it sounds like you're a bit stuck in MMR hell :( Let's hope things get cleared up after the PTB.

Survivors and killers both need to stop being entitled babies this game started out more survivor sided and they have been working to balance the game the best they can

the survivor side has been getting constant nerfs since year 3 while killers have been getting constant buff since year 4 now that both sides have gotten to a point of near equal they are trying to buff and nerf both sides respectfully granted sometimes in the worst way possible

A lot of you have probably only been playing since like year 5 or 6 of this games lifespan and probably don't know the Bs this game used to be

Killers and survivors have a right to complain about stuff but getting so entitled that you say you are quiting or wanting refunded is dumb just take a break and come back when you have had enough time to collect your thoughts remember this is just going to be PTB there is no guarantee these changes will make it

Never used DH but u think spining can avoid a hit? Unless you're beginner doing a 360 will not save u from a killer hit, that's only fancy clips for youtube which 99% of the time are being recorded on lol mmr, yeah a lot of people need to learn to loop, some people go down in 10s.

But this patch don't make sense the meta will be basicly, stay injured the whole game and rush gen as fast as u can, some perks need u to be health to use so in theory thoose perk got nerfed.

Killers din't get nerfed on this patch, that whole regression by overcharge and thoose other perks were just boosted, literraly, every 30 someone get's down and the gen goes back like 25%, unless you're playing SWF with all pro, in solo surv this means death.

This patch is bad to the game health, lot of people will quit and we need players to play, killers whine to much, never had to tunnel or even camp people to get 4k on high mmr and i'm huntress one of the killers that every patch get fc in some way.

Devour hope gives more value than that at least every 1 out of 2 games if you use undying as well. But I think it's fine perk it encourages not to tunnel.

Only one killer complained about dead hard....omg that's insane. Who was it who complained that player needs a god damn medal haha

Are you serious. It's stupid that you or anyone thinks it's just because of a complaint. Devs look at perk usage and need/buff based on this. Dead hard remained one of the most used survivor perks and this would be why it's been nerfed. When BBQ lost its blood points it was because it was over used and Devs wanted players to explore other options so survivors who rely on dead hard only to win chases need to learn other methods instead

Me being a 50/50 survivor/killer player, it is just so funny seeing all the crying from survivor mains and killer mains while I and the other 50/50 players are over here excited for the new things coming lol.