Killers dcing is getting pretty old
I feel like just about every game I play with all survivors still alive and the last gen pops the killer immediately DCs... I hope something gets done about this other than the minor penalities. These are all solo play as well so no toxic swf flashlight gangs.
Having my score impacted and being unable to complete challenges because of this gets old
Just to be clear, yes I agree survivors DC more often but you can still have a game with a dcing survivor while a killer dcing just ends it and you lose out on a lot because of it
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You don't need to report them, they're already punished by the DC timeout
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Does this even spite survs in any way?
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Stop clogging up bhvr's report system with non reportable offenses
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They are punished, they have the DC penalty. You shouldn't be reporting them.
But also, why is that such a big deal? While I'd prefer that no one DC'ed in the game (short of an emergency obviously), if the killer is waiting until the end of the game to DC, why does that matter?
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just add killer bots already no one going want play killer soon anyways.
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I feel like they just don't want to sit another 5 min lost game and then seing all tbagg at exit gates, etc.
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It's true they get the DC penalty, but when the penalty is like 2 minutes, is that really a significant penalty?
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Primarily missing out on challenges and having your score reduced because of them DCing
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To be clear. 1. I wasn't aware they weren't reportable and 2. I havent submitted reports other than the end game unsportsmanlike thing.
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false killer main who dosent dc here but yeah you are right there are alot less of us than before
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Wow that's surprising tbh, although I'm not surprised with survivors dcing. That's nearly every game (not including functionally dcing with intentionally dying on hook immediately)
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Survivors DC way more than killers. I think I've had 9-10 killer DCs in all my time playing and probably a survivor DC about every third game on average.
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I don't disagree survivors probably dc more, but the issue is our perception of matches too, right? Like, there is obviously only 1 killer in the match and our singular match is but a drop in a ocean of matches currently going on - where our killer matches we have 4 survivors leading to a bigger sample size and we can see higher amounts. Personally, I have seen killers dc much more than what I can count on my fingers in the 3-ish years I've been playing the game.
"no one going want play killer soon anyways" is something that has literally been being said since I started playing this game. Social media killers (tm) have been prophesying mass exodus of killer players, but I don't see it nor do I see this patch doing that either. In either case, most people want to play against real people so the game is just going to die if one side just drops off. This goes for both survivor bots and killer bots, mind you.
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I don't mind killers DCing. Everyone's free to start a new game, and no one's chances at winning were harmed.
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Yeah I agree survivors DC more (which is also an issue) but at least a survivor dcing doesnt actively end the game while the killer ends the game for everyone. Both should be addressed though. (Such as replace the dcing player with a bot and enforce stronger penalties for dcing).
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I have the same issue with killers dc'ing as I do survivors dc'ing - which is people dc over the smallest thing that went wrong or because something happened they didn't like and then the game becomes a waste of time for everyone. This is a both sides problem.
It can take a while depending on the time of day to even get a survivor match - so, my time sitting in queue, loading into a lobby, which might take a while if killers dodge, and all for a killer to dc because they got stunned? Also, as a survivor, you also lose addons, you lose your offering as well. It's not about whether or not my chances of winning are harmed, it's about my time I've lost on a match.
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Now when I think about it I remember dc-ing few times when survs sent me to Macmillan.
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That's fair !
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Yeah its typically people who seem to be learning a killer and only got 2 or less hooks total.
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I’ve been playing this game for a long time and I almost never see this happen. If the killer DC’s, it’s either after a few gens have popped without a hook or after a series of pallet stuns. I can remember maybe like one time where the killer DC’d at the very end of the game.
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This is the direction this game feels for me, too.
At this point, just revert the game back to Pre-6.1.0 and I would have much more fun playing killer, because at least I have different perk-options.
Now there are 5 perks left.
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You can already see it on the Incentives. I have never seen so many +100% on Killer than nowadays. Even in the daytime, it happens. Unthinkable 3 months ago.
I have moved to main survivor too, I have to admit. Playing MY Killer (Freddy) is getting worse and worse with every patch. Now my Pain Res+DMS is dead. There is nothing fun left which synergyze with my abilities as Freddy.
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Yup, it was a 100% killer incentive all afternoon where I am!
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Not really, especially late in the game. I've already got most of the BP I'm gonna get, and now the killer is just handing me the escape? Thanks!
I've had killers DC as I was running through the exit gate. It's dumb, but only hurts the killer.
DCing right away is a different story, but that very rarely happens with killers, in my experience.
Survs DCing is definitely more annoying (and much more common), generally speaking.
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Most Killers don't want to hang around for the tbags at the gate and other forms of bullying. Perhaps Survivors should be less toxic.
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50/50 Killer Survivor player here.
Survivors DC far more often than killers.
Almost every other match when I play killer and find a survivor early it’s often a DC.
Then there’s the 2 early DC’s if they are an annoying meme duo.
And almost always a DC when someone hits death hook. Don’t want to give killer that well earned 4K.
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As a general statement yeah, but I wouldn't say that was the case in our game
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Update,
Had this happen back to back games today playing with different survivors and different killers. No one was sabotaging hooks or using flashlights. Both dced as the last gen was completed. Lost out on a challenge and lost my item I brought both games. Good times....
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The trickster game I was having g the killer chase me for a long time. I had lithe and quick and quite. They kept missing their knives and refused to reload.
Legion game the Legion kept missing their Frenzy and never fully committed to a single survivor.
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to be fair before the last meta shake up there was a mass exodus of killers because for months killer q times were instant and survivors were taking 5-10 minutes on average. the funny thing is that the top gen defense left is the meta that was been ran when the exodus happened. i honestly think that well seen another one happen after the mid chapter with the combination of gen defense been pretty much nonexistent and the last to killers been pretty much flops your average killer isnt going to want to play 4 minute games with 4 man outs most the time. ive seen alot of the game needs to be balanced for causal player but when people bring up your average killer the response is normally oh you just need to git gud and thats the true balancing problem imo you cant balance one side as casual and then expect the other side to play way above average to have a decent game,
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That's only because there's 4 survivors and only 1 killer.
Way more likely to have the dc be a survivor than killer just because of numbers.
And I still see a LOT of killers DC'ing at the slightest inconvenience. Even when they've been playing like sewer pipes they still have the nerve to disconnect.
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Yeah, that doesn't even come close to accounting for the disparity I see.
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Some people will say anything. What does any of that have to do with the fact survivors on average dc way more than killers per game?
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What I'm saying is that essentially in my matches all I see are killer dc's. Not everyone's experience is gonna be the same
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Well, this is the first complaint thread this way around I've seen.
Since i was a killer exclusive player, i only witnessed a bunch of survivor DCs but the most distinction between the two is that when the killer DCs everyone else gets to go into another match immediately. Not so with survivor early DCs, the other 4 have to slug throught a stacked match and no one is really having fun then. (Disregarding the stupid "Killanimation denial suicides" upon deathhook that make the whole matched void for the survivor in question)
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Killer DCs are very rare. They happens sometimes yeah but survivor DCs are a FAR larger problem, especially since they usually happen nearer the start of the match as opposed to near the end.
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Well yea, if you mostly play survivor that’s what you’re typically gonna see. I’ve been playing this game for almost 7 years, played in a SWF group for about 3, and I can tell you from every angle, survivors historically dc way more than killer.
Now what’s going on rn may be an uptick in killer dc’s, I haven’t seen many and played against some really bad killers in the last few weeks, but what I can confidently say is at least once per play session there will be at least one survivor dlc when I find them early, or when they are on death hook (pointlessly as they are hooked or before, denying me perk usages or allowing for hatch plays), etc. It’s simply way more beneficial for a survivor to dc against a killer as part of strategy (and to make it worse, the DC penalty barely effects SWF’s who use it because they’re usually waiting for their buddies while spectating for the whole minute or two anyway).
So yea, there are a myriad of incentives and reasons for survivor to dc before the end of the game. With killer, it’s full punishment, especially dcing towards the end, which is the most likely time for a killer to dc. Have I had killers dev against me because I just looped them that hard? Absolutely, especially the 110 killers like huntress. But 9/10 I get a killer who will play to the end, try to get what little kill or two they can and accept it, and never do, or I get 3-4K’d because someone on my team DC’d after their second chase (or they might as well have because they were hiding in a corner or something).
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based on my nightlight stats, twice as many killers disconnect as survivors
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I play whatever has the BP bonus. Unsurprisingly it's survivor pretty often.
I'm a veteran too, and yeah you're not wrong about the survivor dc's. I was just pointing out that killers dc just as much, whether or not people see them do it, they're just another player behind a screen after all.
Some people just give up at the slightest trigger regardless of role.
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It's all the survivor mains who are switching to killer because BHVR is slowly killing their flagship. The ones who are used to winning on ez mode second chance simulator. Long time killer players are just tired of getting all their best stuff nerfed because of survivors crying to daddy BHVR. It's nice to take a break from this dumpsterfire every now and then anyways
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There are 4x as many survivors. Obviously there's a higher chance of someone dcing for a stupid reason. A killer is just as likely to DC the moment they realize they are being outplayed. I'd say there is at least a 50/50 chance of the killer rage quitting when the game is one sided. I see it happen all the time despite being a solo queue player. I have no idea how you've only seen 9-10 killers DC. How many hours do you have? I've seen half of that in the last week alone.
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And 3 more killers DCed today in similar situations as I mentioned before...
And yes there were many more survivors dcing
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Several things with this
1. The 100% w4/7 bonus for Killer on PS5 is simply not true. I play exclusively on ps5 and the BP bonuses for Killer is generally from like 5pm EST until early in the morning (I don't stay up until 3am to know) and I've had several nights, last night in fact where survivor had thr BP bonuses.
2. id rather wait a few minutes for a guaranteed full game than wait 20 seconds where a killer could very likely quit for no good reason. Let's say it did impact queue times, it isn't guaranteed to be a significant change. Ive played back when queue times were awful
3.this is also not the question at hand. This isn't about making more people play Killer or not, this is about not letting people ragequit. A 2 minute ban after DCing is not going to make someone not DC.
And for the record, I do enjoy playing Killer. I play more Killer than survivor honestly.
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yeah i have lost my chances at a merciless even when the survivor was dead on hook and hooked
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i can count on one hand the times this has happened to me. And I play plenty of bully builds and other such things. I think you're lying
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Feel free to not believe me. I'll try to remember the next game it happens to save the video if it matters enough that people would actually look at it.
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Yeah you could explain some of it away with numbers alone (as some have done already) 4x survivor means more chance to get a player who quits, but I don't think that fully accounts for the sheer number of DC's you get from the survivor side.
More commonly than DC's I see killers just go stare at a corner wall in the basement and go afk to wait the game out, again its pretty rare though. Most will tough even a bad game out and hook guard the one survivor they do get for some endgame camping. Which is completely valid.
Whereas in many games the first survivor downed will DC like it's a bodily function. The rest just suicide on hook the second you hook them, camping or not. Add to that the mori DC, the Myers tombstone DC, the bear trap dc, hatchet hit dc, the nurse screech dc, the carried halfway down the basement stairs dc, Its amazing how all these player's connections seem to fail right when something bad or something they don't want happens to them.
Obviously everyone's experience will differ but I'm not seeing the killer DC's that people are complaining about anywhere near the same rate you see survivors drop out. The one bonus of this is at least when your team mates quit you can still play out the game but when the killer quits that's it.
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Coming up on 1300 hours. I play killer more, but I'd still estimate 400-500 games as survivor. I get the 4 to 1 survivor to killer ratio, but I likely have at least around a couple thousand games as killer and it's very conservatively a survivor every third game or so. That's a 1 in 12 ratio vs 1 in 40 to 50.
Now, it may absolutely be an mmr thing. My MMR on survivor could be lower than most of my killer MMRs and that could be the disparity.
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I just want to point out the irony in this post. That is all
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In all my years playing I've had very few killers dc, maybe like 8. Over half of those were recent (this year) as those games the killer was completely outclassed and was lucky to get 1 hook.
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