BHVR and cheater
Guess what ? Cheaters
I link this video here but, myself, i just had 2 games in a row with cheaters so yeah, nothing has been really done since we still face the same, old, cheats game after game
And what BHVR is doing ? Absolutley nothing
The only post about cheating was on September 2022 just because there were an outcry from some major streamers but then...silence
News | Update on Cheating — BHVR
Anyone has seen the in game report system to give us feedback on when a player we reported is banned ? Because i don't. Have you seen any of those improvements in the Q1 ? I haven't
Are they communicating more regulary ? Of course not
Are they keeing us in the loop as promised ? Of course not
Where are the improved support tools and a better player feebdack report ?
Is this silence ever going to end ? Are we going to see something done to solve or, at least, fight back the cheating issues ?
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I got a cheater 2-3 weeks back where someone escaped from the game after they were hooked with 2 gens and 3 people left.
The amount has decreased but I have been more careful when screening lobbies. Accounts with just random numbers in them tend to be red flags.
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there were no cheaters for a good while, it's just now cheaters figured out how to bypass some of counter measures done by bhvr and even then there are barely any i've encountered lately
reporting through support tickets got WAY faster, back then i'd have to wait for about a week for action to be taken, now it takes a day or so
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Online games and cheaters go hand in hand, endless battle.
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Yea I had a cheater match a while ago didnt affect me since I wasnt stressing on trying to win lol
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Just because you don’t see it happening, doesn’t mean they don’t do anything.
That would be the point. You don’t want hackers to know what they actually did.
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This. Opsec. Never identify what you did to patch things out in terms of security, it means nothing to you as a consumer, and everything to the hackers.
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+1 cheater today
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There is no protection. If people don't make it obvious that they're cheaters, it won't be noticed.
The obvious hackers/cheaters have decreased, I've only had 4 games with OBVIOUS hackers in the last 2 months.
Yes, BHVR avoids the topic as much as possible, and there is nothing more to be seen of it in the new roadmap. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that this thread is still alive and hasn't been closed.
In summary: You have to live with cheater/hacker in DBD and nothing will happen in the near future
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There are certainly software/systems that do something against cheaters and you can let them know (Ricochet and Vanguard for example) This is real protection. EAC is a meme security.
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There is no protection. If people don't make it obvious that they're cheaters, it won't be noticed.
The obvious hackers/cheaters have decreased, I've only had 4 games with OBVIOUS hackers in the last 2 months.
Yes, BHVR avoids the topic as much as possible, and there is nothing more to be seen of it in the new roadmap. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that this thread is still alive and hasn't been closed.
In summary: You have to live with cheater/hacker in DBD and nothing will happen in the near future
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out of 4 matches today as survivor, we had 1 cheater killer, with some kind of wallhack, i had distortion and while he tried to cammuflage the wallhacks with no where to hide, i only lost 1 charge on my distortion, he went directly for everyone not just me, but he also went directly for me.
Yesterday out of 3 matches (as killer) had 1 cheater on a swf.
It is increasing again
... and i really at a point where i need to see some action from BHVR before i trust anything they promised on this front.
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2 games, 2 cheaters
One was flying, the other was was a p100 with all the perks
Great job BHVR to prevent cheating
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today i saw a 2022 steam account with legacy prestiges. guess he had a really good gaming chair
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You do know we will never know if BHVR did anything because they won't announce it in any way shape or form. They don't want to let those who make the cheats aware of the new security changes and work on aa new backdoor or way to bypass the system they are developing or have in place.
This is a I line game and there will ALWAYS be cheaters.Id someone wants to cheat there will be someone selling the new set of cheats.
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"They don't want to let those who make the cheats aware of the new security changes"
That's a lie they have sold to you. No one is asking for security details, no one want to see technical blueprint or anything else (and, btw, hackers do not need those information, they already have)
What we want is to see are those things THEY promised us in 2022 with the post THEY wrote. The new feedback system ? The "keep the community in the loop" ? Some cheat can be hard to stop i may agee but seeing over and over and over THE SAME CHEAT well..
Sure there always going to be cheaters in a live game, but i have rarely seen so many in a game
Like i just had a match and one guy was using auto dead hard...so are 3 game in a row with 3 different cheaters
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I did provide a cheater report including video evidence, after 3 months the video still had 0 views... after that point i lost my faith in BHVR doing anything about it. - And im done reporting cheaters, i have more important stuff to do that to waste my time on stuff they dont take serious.
In the first place, demanding video evidence with out providing us with the software to record the games is scummy in my book. So on top of buying the game and all the dlc that we need to constantly buy to keep up with the new metas all the time, we also have to buy video recording software (the store page does not mention this) or get a free one that have a high risk of stealing our information or install some kind of spyware on our computer (if its free, then we are their source of income).
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This doesn't negate my post like you thought it did. You don't even stop security at anti-cheats, that is arguably one of the worst ways I think you can approach software security. If there is a piece of software, it will inevitably break. You cannot stop every cheater/hacker and there will always be ways to bypass security. There are cheaters in games like Valorant, and you know what happens? The game and the anti cheat both get updated to patch holes. And you know what Riot also doesn't do? Be *specific in their dev notes in what and where they patch*, which is what I was even saying. Whether or not EAC is sufficient is a completely different conversation. Even if DBD started using Vanguard, for instance, you will inevitably see cheaters.
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What the heck are you talking about there are plenty of safe secure video recording software out there. I found a few in the past with my old PC that I used that I never had a problem with. I'm lucky now with my new PC I have one built in for recording at a click of a button. They also don't need to say anything about that like MANY other games don't say they don't have video recording system in place.
There are many online games out there that also don't have a built in video recording system. It's also not out of the ordinary to require video evidence of cheating acts. Now I do agree that making a YT video post is stupid and convoluted and we should be allowed to just send in the video.
As for you post that dosnt have any views I can't say anything because I don't know the inner workings of BHVR reporting team.
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I highly doubt you had that many cheaters in a row there are many of us who NEVER seen a cheater in our games.
I never had any obvious cheaters in any of my games and the amount of suspected cheaters I could count on one hand.
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Reporting is annoying in this game, but I can confirm that they are watching the videos and taken action.
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Instant escape after trial start without any gens done is still possible
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lucky u
Even BVHR themself confirmed that 60k cheater were banned in 2022 alone, so yea it seems they exist somehow.
Don't forget, cheater are also customer (10 bucks for the game and a few of them will buy a new account), sums up
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It took them less than two hours to respond to my last cheater report. That's an amazing improvement.
Thank you BHVR.
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Cheaters get banned. The report system works. Anyone who says otherwise is extremely disingenuous.
Record the match with the player cheating and send a report.
BHVR has clearly done a lot of the cheater front. Almost completely negating it back in what? December? They’re back-ish but you can tell it’s very limited in comparison to how over run things felt a year ago.
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The problem is that the report system only works to cheater showing their cheats. There could be some improvements.
And just downloading a replay would be much easier than recording every game.
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The fact that you dont have any problems using them, dosnt mean that the companies dosnt collect your information, this is used a lot in mobile games too. ( https://irishtechnews.ie/study-personal-data-popular-mobile-gaming-apps ) .
Do you really think the companies pay wages to the people making the software, just to give away their software for free, with out any gain??
Try scanning your system with Adwcleaner and Malwarebytes, and see what they find.
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one of the issues with haste perks is because subtle cheaters use them to mask their speedhacking. its why MFT shouldn't go live without a duration.
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What software do you use for recording ??
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Every obvious cheater I've reported has been banned after about 4 weeks. (I've kept track.)
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As I said that was on my old PC my new one has a built in recording software that works just fine and can record up to 2hrs of video in one go at a press of a button.
As for system scans...I don't trust anything that's a scanner that's not from a main company that I know and trust.
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But you gladly (on your old pc) install a video recorder from some random publisher as long as its free?
That being said, Malwarebytes own both tools that i suggested, they are a really high ranking and well known security company, not just some random unknown company. They have been around for about 15 years or more. Their Adwscanner is mostly know by security experts tho, but Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is well known. Im sure you can look them up on google or trustpilot for that matter.
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And as you said I did my research on the video recorders I downloaded and fact checked everything before I even did a download.
I also did look them up and came to my own conclusion about a hour ago. Like I said I do my research because I can't just buy a new PC if it gets assaulted by malware since money is tight.
I also understand you have your own reservations about trusting BHVR since your experiences are not that good, while mine are alot better and have had success ousting a few hackers following thier system.
This is just something we have to agree to disagree since we have different experiences with the subject at hand.
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Now cheaters are running also with insta gen repair , just got a guy running around the map, touching gen and boom 100%
Great work BHVR
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I honestly don't see why i should go through the whole time wasting procedure of recording a match, cropping the video, uploading it to YouTube just because bhvr refuses to implement a functioning system themselves.
I'm not working for them nor am i paid, and uploading videos is a huge time waste other than bandwidth occupation. If they can't be bothered implementing a functioning report system that doesn't require a user to go through all this hassle, I can't be bothered going through the hassle either.
I'll just report in game and be done with it, not enough? Not my fault
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The alternative is banning people without evidence.
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Fine but then GIVE ME A DAMN TOOL TO REPORT A CHEATER and impove EAC because, right now, both things are awful
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That is a fact. Currently there is no way to detect and remove cheaters/hackers who act subtly.
These are absolutely secure and will continue to exist as long as there is someday an automated system that checks the code and game files (for 3rd party software).
However, realistically this cannot be expected before 2025. Let's see if the game is still played until then.
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Someone even streamed their cheats on Twitch at one point in time under different names.
If someone is confident enough to do that, it means there’s literally 0 repercussion even if they do get caught.
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Now I feel like laughing not to cry when it comes to cheaters. I have a fresh one to tell. Yesterday I was playing, quite a chill game were it not for the absurd genrush, I close the game as I had both devour hope at 3 tokens and active noed. I put 3 survs on the ground and slug for the last, at that moment 3 totems explode together (The Undying one, the devour hope one and the noed one), with 3 survs on the ground. Needless to say how the game ended.
I thought it was a normal game and fair? Obviously, then I see 3 totems pop together with 3 survs on the ground and only 1 still standing.
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On Feb 5th, when i was still recording my games, i met a cheater who was flying. I uploaded the video to youtube, created the ticket, received the automatic response that they would take charge of the report.
From February 5th to today, NOBODY has ever seen the video so yeah, there are 0 repercussion and BHVR do not care at all
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Another day without BHVR doing anything about cheating
I'll update this post every day until i see a proper action from BHVR against cheaters and i'll report everyone i face in each game, how do i know if they are legit or suspicious players after all
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Hello BHVR any update about cheaters ? Any news ?
Just reported 40 people (10 games, i report everyone now) as "suspicious cheater". Are they cheaters ? No ? Yes ? Who knows since EAC is not working and there is no real anti cheat protection
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I once reported a cheater and I got baned because his nickname was visible in the evidence. That made absolutely no sense
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Unless you posted this on the forums or reddit (unofficial reddit btw, just the same rule about not naming names publicly) and got banned from the forum/reddit, I find this highly unlikely and I don't think I believe you.
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I hate having to update this post every day, but will continue to do so until I see clear action against cheaters
I wish everyone would do it, i wish the "big names in streaming" to do another public outburst and shed some more light on this issue
At the moment it is impossible to know if we play against cheaters or honest people and it makes me very angry and should anger the whole community, this deafening silence from BHVR, this total lack of transparency on cheaters, this lack of support and a functioning reporting system
So yeah, again, what are you doing BHVR to stop cheating ?
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