Please help list all the ways the new anti-camp system will be abused

But that's presuming a lot about potential timers.

If the escape meter gain is minimal at the max distance, and the survivor slows it down further, it's not a viable strategy.

Even if it was viable, at a minimum it's very risky. The killer now knows exactly where the survivor is trying to loop and if the killer gets a down before the timer reaches, there's now two survivors hooked.

Not to mention if the survivors don't get the timings down right the hooked survivor could easily progress a hook stage before getting the escape, which is a trade off in favor of the killer.

And even if the survivor manages to get off the hook before the down, you're potentially just looking at a hook trade, which already exists in the game.

So for survivors to reliably employ this as a strategy they would need:

1: The killer to put the survivor on a hook that is easily loopable.

2: To not just win the loop chase, but do so while keeping the killer close to the hook.

3: For the other two survivors on gens to be so far away that taking the brief period of time to rescue their teammates while the killer is distracted is not the obvious play. If it takes 5 seconds to go and rescue the hooked survivor, and 5 seconds back to the gen, but it takes 30 seconds of looping to get the survivor to escape on the own, that's 30 seconds the hooked survivor couldn't do anything. The survivors could have had three people on gens while this master looper is plying his trade.

4: The killer to have engaged in this cat in mouse in the first place.

Could it be bad, especially on initial release? Sure, but that's just really a question of moderating how much the meter increases at various ranges.

You know, when I say I think anti camping measures are actively being targeted and protected by certain types of players so they're less effective and ultimately do nothing...

This is exactly what I mean. At least post with actual facts from the PTB instead of a pre emptive strike. I'm sure there will be plenty of time to have a biased opinion on Tuesday.

The more I think about this system, the more game I am to see it tested. Obviously a lot will depend on the numbers we don't know, and anything can change between PTB and Live if problems do arise, but they've given themselves a lot of leeway to let this system be impactful because the "fail state" for the killer isn't actually that bad if you aren't facecamping.

If you're trying to spread pressure and cycle through targets, you're going to expect that a survivor is unhooked anyway, pushing them from stage 1 to stage 2 or from stage 2 to dead doesn't really happen unless they've been left there for long enough that you only have to fend off survivors coming for the save for a few seconds. This is an area we don't know the effects of this system on, because we don't know the numbers; if it takes long enough to fill up that you have that spare ten to fifteen seconds, great, you can still punish mistakes just as well as live and nothing's changed. If not, that can be tweaked.

If a survivor tries running you near the hook, though, what's the worst case scenario? You occupy two survivors for however long it takes for that meter to fill up (meaning the generator efficiency with all survivors still alive is down a whopping 50%), and unless you get completely clowned on, you've got an injury + you're likely to have a down to replace the self-unhook with. That's a trade, those happen all the time in live and it's not actually a huge deal for you.

The better case scenario for survivors running you to the hook is that you down them before the meter fills all the way. That way it's definitely a trade at minimum and even has the potential to be two on the hook if you're on the ball; that makes running the killer to the hook a risk, not a guaranteed-value avenue for abuse like it would be if the system disabled powers or applied debuffs.

In short, I don't really see the value in trying to think of ways this system will be abused unless it's to make note of for testing later. We just don't know enough specifics and what we know sounds mostly fair. The only time this system ought to have a huge effect, on paper, is if you're putting all your eggs in one basket and don't have any hook states or pressure on the other survivors- in other words, if you're camping.

But if you aren't camping and another survivor runs you to the hook, that survivor is taken off gens. Because you're chasing them.

Why is the term "face camping" being used, if the system goes out 16 meters? How on earth is that face camping?

You were given an alternative. The self healing nerfs. More players, on average, playing injured means chases/downs are now quicker. But since you are upset about anti-camping measures I'm going to assume you don't engage in chase much which is why you don't see how the self healing nerfs were decent compensation.

You mean "Far away enough, that you can't even see the survivor's face anymore"?

1. How does that make it easy to abuse? Are you referring to someone just infinity looping the killer near the hook in order to 'abuse' the system? Because then they might as well infinity loop the killer away from the hook and let someone rescue. How 'abusable' this is depends entirely on the time it takes for the bar to fill if a survivor is nearby.
2. 16m is not giant, and the fill rate is based on distance, so skirting the edge will likely not push the bar that much.
3. Camping multiple things at the same time doesn't make it not camping, I'm not sure why this would make a difference.
4. They will likely also be able to do so by using their eyes and ears. Most killers have a terror radius, and if a killer is invisi-camping, well, they're still camping. And did they even confirm that the survivor sees the progress?
5. Did they confirm this?

Say, for example, the timer increases at a rate of 10% a second within 5m (10 seconds to be able to escape) to the survivor and a rate of 2% a second within 5m and 10m (50 seconds to be able to escape), and within 10m and 16m at a rate of 1% a second (100 seconds to be able to escape). These values are decreased by 50% per survivor within a 16m radius. Suddenly, you could proxy camp without fear because you're guaranteeing second stage anyway, and you'd only have to step away from the 16m range for ~23 seconds and you've got a guaranteed kill (unless a survivor is nearby), however if you decide to. Facecamp or camp very close the survivor is able to escape within the hook state limits. You're not punished for going to a gen to kick it, because you have 10 seconds to get out of the 5m range, and ~13 to get out of the range entirely, unless other survivors are nearby.

However, if the values were 50% within 5m, 30% within 5-10m, and 25% within 10-16m, and de teased by 10% per nearby survivors, it would be very easily abused.

Do you see my point? You cannot conclude anything off of pure guesswork, you can only estimate what you think will happen based on previous experiences with these types of mechanics (that BHVR has been trying to get right since literally Year 2 when they first answered a question about an anti camp mechanic)

and do not forget that 16 meters on the gideon turns into 32

Which is good and fine, because the devs specifically said that they don't have an issue with camping but with facecamping. It's a mechanic against facecamping and was always marketed as such (like it's literally called anti-faceamping, not anti-camping), because the devs realise that there's no way for them to realistically punish all forms of camping because often it can feel necessary. It's the stand in front of a survivor until they die, not moving at all type of gameplay that they want to penalise with this addition, not camping as a whole.

And if a Survivor is able to loop you within 5m of a hooked survivor, then there's something going terribly wrong there.

1. What do you mean 'Free'!? They're investing two survivors' time on a one-man job, AND they're making your job easier by making you not have to go only 16 meters to get to a survivor instead of the breadth of the map, AND you don't have to find anyone. This is legitimately starting to sound more like 'anti-camp is fine, so long as it doesn't interfere with me camping'.
2. 'The devs said it was for facecamping' - No, the dude that introduced the system stated that the problem is not being able to go for an unhook. That's ALL camping, not just facecamping.
3. Take the right build, camping is still broken as F. It requires a lot of coordination from survivors to break even with it and the slightest slip-up on their part makes it a landslide victory for the killer. It continues to be a problem, and a lynchpin behind other balancing issues.
4. See 2.
5. Was I wrong? Or is this you getting your knickers in a twist and failing to read what I wrote?

1. Quick question, just please, think it over for a second: That survivor that's standing 16 meters from the hook (Not doing a gen, by the way), if he wasn't pulling off that tactic, how far away would he be from you as the killer? More, or fewer than sixteen meters away?
2. Dev also said 'the problem is being denied the ability to make a save'.
3. Okay, so now you're arguing that it is a tremendously inefficient method of play, so why do you care that it's getting nerfed, then?
4. See 2.
5. I will ask again: Was I wrong, or did you get your knickers in a twist and fail to read what I wrote? But judging from the fact that you're repeating 'don't be stupid' as some kind of mantra, I'm going to guess that you saw someone disagree with your take and just saw red from that point onward.

Just as a thought experiment: Consider the situation you are painting up with the two survivors on opposite sides of the hook, and compare it to the situation as it is at the moment. What are survivors going to do under the current system, and how does that compare to the 'abuse' situation? Because from what I'm seeing, that 'abuse' situation is literally flat-out better for the killer than the more likely situations that occur under the current system.

'Just clog your build with perks that only work for camping and then execute a perfect strategy in perfect coordination with total strangers and no communication to counteract the killer putting in effectively no effort whatsoever.'

Okay.

This says nothing

What if a survivor being near means the bar fills so slowly the survivor on hook dies before it gets filled?

No point in discussing something we don't know the details about yet

History shows this not to be the case.

You cannot be chasing someone properly when your camping. Your either chasing or camping. This changes punishes facecamping.

If your getting interupted from performing the unhook action, you are facecamping. Hook trading is face camping. a big reason why they are choosing 16 meter is ranged killers and while you can still be interrupted, you should be able to side-step projectile from that distance.

you are correct they are not targeting proxy camping. you can still stand 32 meters away with make your choice and directly return the hook after the unhook has been performed. they are punishing stand-still at the hook and hook-grabbing gameplay.