Survivors don't recognize when killers are playing "fairly"

For me, I play farily as killers but still they blame me for any term of their imagination, some ppl just want their easy wins or find excuses for failing regardlessly. For those ppl I find one thing in common, they don't play both sides and only follow the one-track mind.

Sometimes when I play survivor, my teammates farm me on hook then blame the killer for 'camping', like what does the killer supposed to do? Or I loop the killer for a long time and somehow we are 'gen rushing'. The 'entitlement' is the real toxiticity.

Had two in a match earlier that saw my wraith and instant DCs. I let the other two do the gens and I opened the gate.

A lot do it's just kinda hard to go easy on killers as survivors without just outright standing around doing nothing

I had 2 Doctor yesterday and weirdly those 2 were the most fun match of the day. They had different builds but both are involved around slugging build. One with Knockout, and one with King or Queen addon with Infectious fright.

The only 2 slugging case I dont like is bleeding for 4min, or slug the 3rd for 4K. Otherwise, I find slugging match fun.

Some clearly do but yeah, I play nice pretty much all of the time by not camping or tunnelling and I evenly spread hooks. Obviously if you desperately want a 'win' this is not the ideal way to play but despite me trying to make matches fun for everyone, I still get BM from some survivors and it is pretty annoying.

That was me when I started playing, honestly. Killer felt so overpowered compared to survivor that I had trouble noticing goodwill unless I was explicitly given hatch.

Nowadays since I have a much better understanding of how the game works, I'm much less irritated at the killer since so much of the game hinges on survivors making mistakes. It's much easier to notice when killers are being fair or kind. Most killers I go against I have no complaints about. I don't even see that much tunneling (maybe one in 10 or so games).

Some of my friends still struggle though, especially against some killers they dislike particularly.

Do not follow the survivor rule book. Follow the killer rule book and do what needs to be done to sacrifice all survivors to the entity. Their job is to do what they can to survive.

At some point I started finding it a lot of fun as killer to play properly down to 10/12 hooks, then trying to get the last 2 survivors to trust me.

There are some that will get it, but there are also a number who will sprint away and keep running at all times, no matter how obvious I make it that I'm friendly. The games of charades actually get weirdly fun xD

It's like I downed you and let you wiggle free my dude... I'm free standing in pallets to give you pallet stuns... I'm meleeing gens and standing over your teammates face... I'm trying to let you go, stop running and do a gen you fool xD

There have been a few cases where a survivor has been that adamant to remain hostile... I ended up having to finish them off and be friendly to only 1 survivor for a 3k. I've had other survivors suicide on their second hook, I assume to be altruistic, even though I made a point of not killing the other survivor on 4 occasions... I really tried to be trusted...😔

I even got teabagged by the last survivor, even though I let them go like 3 times xD

This game is weird xD

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I used to be nice though and give the survivors the hatch or door, especially if they had it rough but after a few izi and they looked into my profile saying "I had no life" or whatever, I stopped doing so.

When I play survivor, I dislike when I am the last survivor and the killer uses me to farm points, negating me from moving on to another match.

I often will choose not to take an easy early kill, even though it would be the right call if I really wanted the win. We've all had those games where one survivor constantly runs into you, has bad luck, falls for every trick you try etc etc. In most of those cases they never see it for what it is. Although rarely really good players will notice what you're doing and I have had the odd thank you message.

I once had a match where there was only one good player. I'd hooked some the others very quickly but this steve was an excellent looper. I ended up ignoring the others and just did 1v1's with him (which he understood was happening too) for a bit. When someone else tried to bodyblock for him, even he stopped shook his head at them. I learnt a lot that match and even though I caught him in the end I carried him to the exit, to find the other 3 douchebagging. Got a ggez baby killer from the meg but a really nice message from the steve. I did reply to the meg saying that "steve was way better than them and it wasn't even close" though.

I typically get "scary blight" or more recently "cold blight", I play like what I would have considered a bot playstyle a year and a half ago though. I will 8 hook every single game, if they make it to end game while I am in the process of doing so, so be it. I haven't gotten post game hate in several months. The last time I did was being called a tunneler while preforming my usual 8 hook in order, of course that is a disregarded outlier.

While you may not experience what I have. I know people would rather face my blight even on the very slim chance I run op add-ons than go against a tunneling trapper for example. There's a 40% chance that I get bags when people escape, but the only people in recent memory like that were abusing the fact that the servers had 100-150 ping( Don't @ me, blight suffers more from ping than survivors).

I play mostly survivor. I don’t mind if you try to kill me or my teammates. That’s the game, after all, and I think we all have more fun actually playing the game. You can play however you want, but I don’t think “fair” is the right word here. To me, fair is simply not using exploits of bad game design to win ie camping, tunneling, slugging. You can get a 4k and still have played fair and I never mind losing to killers that have done so.

Now to elaborate on what is “fair.” Sometimes you end up finding the same survivor multiple times and in that instance you’re not tunneling. Sometimes you have to wander near a hooked survivor or return to the hook, and that doesn’t mean you’re camping. Sometimes you have to leave a downed survivor for a chase or to scout and that doesn’t mean you’re slugging. We all know what hard tunneling, camping, and slugging look like.

Now even if all you’re trying to do is get 2 hooks and let everyone out it can be difficult on the survivor side to discern what exactly is friendly gameplay especially if you use any of the aforementioned tactics to accomplish your hooks. I’ve had many games where I thought a killer was being friendly only to get hard facecamped or fall prey to Noed.

Now, as a killer, I hardly ever actually sacrifice anyone. I moreso enjoy scaring people caught off-guard and chasing them. I’ll often try to just hook everyone at least once or complete a challenge I’m working on. If I am being friendly and intend to let everyone leave I rarely make it apparent until endgame because I don’t want survivors changing their playstyles. I want them to play to win.

There have been instances in which I was trying to be friendly and they couldn’t notice. One time an Ash dropped his item for me because he either a) got a feel that I was being friendly and was thanking me or trying to confirm it or b) went out on a limb hoping his gift would appease me and make me friendly. Personally, I dislike it when survivors drop their items not because I find it insulting but because that’s your item, bro. You use it, you keep it. I don’t need an offering.

Anyway….. I hit and chased him because, as I said before, I don’t want people changing their style of play because they think I won’t kill them. When I downed him I kept bringing him back to where he dropped his item so he could reclaim it but he never did. He just kept running away again and probably thought I was tunneling him. It isn’t always easy to know what a killer is trying to do. I’ve been a frustrated killer trying to communicate things to survivors who either just don’t get it or don’t trust me, and I’ve been a survivor who let my guard down around the wrong killer or just completely misunderstood them.

Overall, play the way you want to play but just don’t be toxic about it and don’t use unfair advantages to destroy games.

Yes that is still slugging. It's the right play but it's still slugging. This is exactly like when people camp because there's a gen that's close to completion nearby. Yes, it's the smart play, but it's still camping regardless.

Yeah, it actually is. When killers go out of their way to play nice, and they run across those douchebag players that call them scrub and teabag at the exit gates, or play super scummy toward them when it is obvious you go out of your way to be nice? Yeah, if that happens to you enough times, you stop playing nice. The reality is, there are far more toxic survivor players, than there are killer players.

The problem is the satirical survivor rule book is taken as gospel by a large number of the survivor player-base (especially the ones who are active on DBD Twitter) that they don’t think killers playing nice is anything special. They just expect it and are therefore not grateful for it.

So many genuinely expect killers to “play the game properly” because they’ve literally been brainwashed. And what does play properly mean to these people?

1. Minimum of 8 hooks before a sacrifice
2. Same person can never be hooked twice in a row
3. If some survivors are objectively weaker loopers the killer cannot use this to their advantage as targeting these survivors is unfair, chase everyone equally killers! Even if it takes minutes to get a hit.
4. End game camping is bad and only bad players do it. Try for chases and take the L!
5. If a survivor is unhooked, refuses to heal and immediately starts working on a a Gen, don’t you dare go for them again if you see them- that’s tunnelling.
6. Always give hatch
7. Slugging is boring and if you don’t immediately pick up a downed survivor it’s toxic. Just accept the flashlight save, after all it’s all about fun!
8. Don’t use “sweaty” perks or un-fun killers.
9. If you see the survivors struggling go easy on them! Of course if the killer is struggling they won’t do the same but that’s fine as killer is the ‘power role’.

Now, does every survivor think like this? Of course not. But a large enough number do that it pervades the player base and creates an annoying sense of entitlement. So that when killers do genuinely play nice it hardly receives any recognition.