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hacking, sniping, and bigotry as dbd content?

hatechip
hatechip Member Posts: 4
edited September 2023 in General Discussions

i just encountered a hacking billy in my game with the name of a youtube channel. when i checked his channel i saw that his youtube is full of content that is just him openly hacking, sniping, tunneling, and just harassing people for being streamers and/or minorities. he also livestreams it on twitch and directly mentions bhvr on his twitter account talking about how they're taking forever to ban his bot killers.

i figure that he keeps buying alts but is there really nothing behavior can do about it??

Post edited by Rizzo on

Answers

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333

    Chances are if it is who I think you're talking about, he is already IP banned and he's probably spoofing his IP which means on top of seemingly being in possession of a large number of backup accounts there may not be a good way to permablock him.

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,491

    This person keeps ruining the game for others and he just keeps getting away with it.

  • TerraEsram
    TerraEsram Member Posts: 671

    And the saddest part

    He's not alone, lot of content now only give that kind of content

  • Justa335i
    Justa335i Member Posts: 223

    There are so many cheaters that post videos cheating on TCM/DBD.

    You can try to ban them all you want, but spoofing and buying accounts will get around it. The only way to actually solve this would be for the Anticheat measures to catch them. Its strange, i thought the whole cheating issue went away like a year ago. I guess im just lucky and dont see it in my games.

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333

    It's a bit impractical to dedicate a staffer to keeping tabs on a single malicious dbd content creator.

    He's a pretty active twitter user who openly boasts about the fact he's basically able to sidestep any consequences for what he's doing. Fresh accounts don't really cost much of anything and are so readily available you can just do a regular internet search for them.

    Maybe if they hit him with MAC address level bans that would help because that's a ban at the hardware level which is much more difficult to circumvent. Not sure if BHVR has the ability to do that though.

  • hatechip
    hatechip Member Posts: 4

    apparently dbd does do hardware bans, as soon as i looked it up i saw multiple sources detailing how to bypass dbd hardware bans.. interesting

  • hatechip
    hatechip Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2023

    an update on the user i mentioned, with an example of some of the content he's actively making in dbd where he just targets and harasses gay players.

    Post edited by Rizzo on
  • They run the client that the user in question uses to connect to the internet, so they absolutely could do a MAC ban. What might be even more effective is a hardware ID ban.

    When the game starts, it could generate hashes based on the user's unique hardware before the server checks it against a database. If two or more items match a known ban evader (the only type of person who would be put in such a database, not regular rule-breakers), action is taken. It could check MAC addresses, UUIDs, and other things that would be difficult to change without reinstalling the operating system or getting new hardware. They couldn't simply run it in a VM, because EAC checks for that, and even if new accounts aren't expensive, new computers are.

    And then if they really wanted to throw him off, they could take a cue from some of the more annoying DRM schemes out there and, instead of banning him outright, tell him six times that the game failed to initialize, get him into a fake match and make him wait an hour loading before giving him a DC error, purposely bug his character ingame so that it's weaker or less effective, make his character go AFK for large portions of the match, etc.

    Alternatively, someone with a matching hardware ID (especially one that was just banned from a previous match) could simply have their matches subject to additional scrutiny by BHVR's server in real-time. They can't do that for everyone because it would take too many resources, but how many people like this do they have? They could watch a few matches a day. Even if they have 2,000 games a day where something like this happens, they could watch 200 of them with basic algorithms that check for things that shouldn't be possible ingame, and that puts a dent in the problem.

  • Oh, and BHVR could also look into the idea of evercookies and implement something based on the same concept. The game could install a few minor, harmless text files, 1KB PNG images, etc. in random places on the user's device when they're suspected of being a ban evader and check for those on startup.

  • Lobos
    Lobos Member Posts: 212

    It also helps to constantly report all his content on whatever platform he posts to. Don't watch it, just keep reporting it. After the platform gets so many reports about the hacking and hate speech/harassment they will shut down the videos/streams.

    Honestly it's just sad that person gets any views at all. Granted most of them probably come from bots anyway. Imagine being so lonely and desperate for attention that you would make such "content".

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    They should just close his youtube channel. They can do this since they own all the rights to the visuals. My guess is this is already in progress but the legal stuff takes time.

    sadly banning hardware ID's or MAC do not help since they can spoof them too.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 1,921

    It also helps to constantly report all his content on whatever platform he posts to.

    Everyone should do this. It's very hard to stop a truly dedicated hacker, but you can try take away their platforms.

  • You can spoof a MAC address if you're connecting to a wifi hotspot or something, but Dead by Daylight is an actual binary that runs on the actual computer in question. It would be able to see the device's original MAC address and/or be able to detect attempts to spoof it, wouldn't it?

    My guess is this is already in progress

    So then he'll re-register another account immediately and start uploading again, and he'll have an active channel again for a while because the legal stuff takes time, right? Anything would be more effective than that. Rucka Rucka Ali taught an entire generation that the most useless thing you can try to silence someone is deleting their videos on YouTube.

    If BHVR is planning to file an actual lawsuit, there's some chance they'll be able to squeeze an IP address out of YouTube. I'm not sure they'd actually win a lawsuit or even be able to file one for a great number of reasons, but if they did, that maybe has a chance to scare and/or annoy him enough to make him stop, but I don't think a DMCA notice will be doing much.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,937

    I'm closing this here.

    If you encounter those players, just report them correctly and report their channel to the platform they stream/post video on.

    Thank you.

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