Is there more than 1 minor benefit?

If you're not trying to kill the Survivors then BP. If you don't care that much about BP or killing the survivors then nothing really. From how I'm reading your playstyle you don't really need to use hooks; hooks are only if you want to win (defined as a 3K+) and get BP.

Perks that interact with hooks, more points, possible quicker games due to finding prey easier, and not causing undue irritation to survivors (last one is Abit of a stretch due to survivor behavior)

If its working for you, keep doing it then.

• Hooks are a proc for some perks, they give extra BP's.
• They count for pips toward ranks which give extra BP's in the end.
• They create a focal point where you know survivors will be and they don't move away from that point.
• Unhooking is typically a riskier rescue than picking up a survivor, no noise cue etc.
• Others have already posted more in depth points about time and play efficiency.

There are plenty of reasons to use hooks, but if they don't suit your gameplay then by all means don't use em.

As a side note, ignore the posts about "playing normally" or "properly" or the idea that "all survivors hate being slugged".

These are players whom have confused their opinions and assumptions as facts, or have a limited preconceived idea of how the game should be played and expect everyone to rigidly follow it. Neither of these are good ways to approach the game.

You like chases more than kills, you're playing wrong.

People who lay on the ground a long time aren't in chase for a long time. Typically a unhook leads to a chase, you get an unhook notification, there's two survivors, chase one.

Let the survivors play more, you'll get way more chases. Let them take chances and they will. Too oppressive makes the survivors too careful, not worth the risk of getting into a chase they can avoid.

Both you and the guy on the ground will get more BP and action if you hook. That's the one compelling reason you need, it's more fun for both of you. You don't owe it to survivors, but it's more fun, more points, more playing.

But as a killer that knows how to enjoy this game day-in and day-out, fun is the only reason. If you're playing well enough to control the trial, win in the way that gets you what you want. Efficiency doesn't matter. Toy with them.

That's why villains always explain their plans to the hero instead of just killing them, it's an empty victory if you don't savor it.

Having a tool to counter something doesn't necessarily invalidate that something as "normal" gameplay.

Sooner or later, most of my games usually end-up as four-slugs anyway. After that it's only a matter of finding them back or going for a coffee if I can't easily find them.

?? So you want to remove bleed out so that people just lie on the ground forever? That would make 4 man slugging legit?

What you've written here doesn't make much sense as stated.

On a more serious note don't confuse your personal predefined idea of what constitutes "normal" play as some form of factual bar set for all players. We've had this discussion before, more than once, and you've still not learned anything.

Neither have you learned anythjng, though I refrained from bringing up that you've continued to defend toxic and abhorrent behavior by staying, "they're just roleplaying."

I have very little interest in speaking to someone like that and I see nothing to gain by doing so.

If this works for you then the survivors are letting it. Not that im condoning anything, but if a killer is simply slugging and not hooking at all then there is a counterplay for that and slugging all 4 at the same time is incredibly rare and if you are literally looking at 4 downed survivors than you sir might actually be the problem

I'm not defending anyone and never have, but bleeding out is just gameplay and until BHVR come up with a mechanic that either lessens the impact or works around it its going to stay in game so expect to see it. Which has always been my take on it.

Lastly don't be toxic by hating on someone outside of game because they play in a way you don't like. Defining people's in game choices as abnormal is part of that toxicity.

Its that simple.

The same consistent point I've always made in the hope people may actually stop genuine toxicity rather than hyper-focusing on imaginary toxicity.

The problem with this reasoning is that you can apply it to literally anything, including 'strategies' and exploits that BHVR *has* specifically targeted and removed.

AFK pig, stand-on-the-box Pinhead, double locker flashlight saves, and even the recent 'equip a flashlight to become immune in a locker' thing... All of those were, in your estimation, not just 'perfectly valid until they were removed', but somehow 'saying you don't like it in any way is toxic and shut your mouth'.

That seems like not only an overstep, but also a big enough issue that completely shuts down any discussion that would fix exploits or problematic gameplay in the future.

To be clear, I don't disagree that unless or until BHVR actually deletes something that you will eventually face it in game. That's just how players are.

But saying it's toxic to give an opinion about it is ridiculous, especially about things that BHVR has either removed, or has said flat out that it isn't intended gameplay and a solution is in the works (like 3 genning for an hour).

There's a youtuber, Bazazell, that has a strat where he slugs rather than hooks, but he's doing it for efficiency, that's what I was imagining.

But you're right, if a killer slugs instead of hooks, there's considerably more chances for survivors to be picked up and play. A survivor might get picked up ten+ times before running out of blood.

Daggone, you might be giving survivors more playtime than any of us.

THIS is a problem we have. Everyone, including myself, confuses slugs for bleed-outs, and they should be separate terms. If slugging is the same as bleeding out, hooking is the same as face-camping for a kill. There's a world of difference in there, and most of us know enough about the game that we should be using accurate terms.

I should've known better. when I turn friendly, I just don't death-hook, I slug so they can see they made a bad choice, but they get to keep playing. And you're completely right, there's lots of points and action to be had while doing so.

DemonDaddy, you blew my mind.

With the hook spawns on maps like swamp I can't even blame you, but other than that don't slug.

what makes you say that? is 3 man slugging also not normal gameplay? 4 man slugging is not normal to you because nobody does 4 man slugging gameplay. this is because if you just randomly down everyone, it will take an eternity for any survivor to die. that is why nobody dares to do that. killer only dare to consider slugging as strategy when it is 3 or less people. that is because they're not playing to bleed out. they're playing to down everyone then hook everyone. that kinda cements that slugging is not that threatening unless your on verge of winning. Most killer state that once you are in a 3vs1, you are more then likely to close out the match in most instances.

I agree with your post. the gameplay of hooks and slugging is not really that different.