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Can we talk about the sorry state the game is in atm

DEADHARD666
DEADHARD666 Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 13
edited November 2023 in General Discussions

DBD as it is now is not a fun game anymore and I’m sure many can agree with this statement back in 2017-2021 22 you could hop on have fun games with friends and just chill out escape for a few hours.

Now you hop on and it’s just a sweat fest chase is slowly being phased out the game because killers just want to end a match as fast as possible same with survivors it’s just not fun anymore.

on killer you shouldn’t feel like you need to tunnel and on survivor you shouldn’t feel like you need to rush gens but that’s the sorry state the game is in at the moment.

another thing is behaviours idea on balancing and the balancing team just not doing a good job and micro managing strong perks and keeping them healthy instead just absolutely ruining them and making them so situational that it’s not worthy of a perk slot anymore and then they wonder why each side has a meta because there’s that many useless perks in the game.

Examples hex ruin tinkerer circle of healing made for this dead hard even though dead hard Imo is still alright but damn does it suck compared to old dh corrupt intervention decisive strike balanced landing even self care that got nerfed like why ?

so where are we at today a sweat fest with either side not having fun why do we still play ?

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  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,232

    I was getting major burnout from the game a few months ago so took a sabattical in TCM but now that's dying a death I've come back. The game is still not in a great place for many reasons but I would say its much better than it was during the regression meta.

  • Smoe
    Smoe Member Posts: 3,323
    edited November 2023

    I'll take current dbd over 2017-2021 dbd any day, back then were less fun for me compared to nowadays.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,977

    I simply don't have enough time to play casually anymore.



    If I wanted to hop on and spend 4 hours before getting a good match with my friends, I'd just play CoD.

    I've put enough time into Killer that I'm capable of auto-piloting through most teams with little difficulty, which is the opposite problem, tbh. It's just boring on both sides, but i suppose that's what you get when you have an eight year old game that hasn't innovated in a long while

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  • Astel
    Astel Member Posts: 762

    I haven't played in old days, but I don't think old DBD looks that fun. Maybe that's some kind of nostalgia.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    Fun for who?

    Survivor mains, who were abusing bugs and poor balance back then? Were you having fun playing as a killer back then?

    Relish on a bug abuse and poor balance, is what childish at best.

  • CorvusCorax86
    CorvusCorax86 Member Posts: 1,072

    I just want to have fun. And fun means getting a lot of points and even if I lose seeing at least one team mate escape I can say those saves were worth the shot.

    An example would be Legion. He cuts you many, many times but because he moves on you are considered to have won the chase. Back in the day when I started (2021) I knew a match with this Killer meant a long-lasting session with lots of BP.

    Today Legion cuts you then hits the air to come out of Frenzy immediately to down and hook you. Then proxy-camps. I was never part of an SWF but I never needed it pre-2023 as I had fun. These days matches are awful.

  • Avo
    Avo Member Posts: 190

    Yes you're right with Omega Blink Nurse, Map-sized Hitbox Huntress, Undetectable Spirit, Lag-switching and yes, the old Hillbilly. The game was broken for both sides, stop being a fanatic.

  • pizzavessel15
    pizzavessel15 Member Posts: 534

    2020-2021 was atrocious for killer

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,541

    Both sides abuse bugs. We literally currently had Ultimate Weapon users abuse the hell out of it for 3 weeks because it was bugged and locker proof or do you want me to remind you Merciless Storm that would reset gen back to 0% and BHVR didn't even bother to killswitch it for a month and everybody was exploiting that bug. You're being unfair because of your bias.

  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,304

    Fun has been replaced with competitiveness. Survivor is still fun as its more laid back and is about making the experience as miserable as possible for the killer. As killer, its 15 mins of trying not to be humiliated.

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,809
    edited November 2023

    Every line you've stated is a subjective opinion and you only speak for yourself. There are still vets of the game around who prefer early gameplay for a multitude of different reasons. That's okay if you don't understand it, you don't have to because it just wasn't for everyone.

    I had a great time on Surv and Killer, as did others out there like Pulsar, and thousands of others who still play from that time. To make a blanket statement and boil old DBD and those who prefer it down as simply as you did is not only a misleading characterization, it's egregiously off the mark.

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  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 4,038

    I think the most fun the game has when you start and learn new things all the time.

    Also the scare factor decreases over time.

    It is still good enough for me.

    Maybe if you got to good at the game that also lessens the fun.

  • Paternalpark
    Paternalpark Member Posts: 663

    Killer has been awesome last 2 years.

    Second chance perks are dead and 90 sec gens.

    The best rn is that there alot of strong killer perks that are synergistic with one another as well as the killer using them.

    Solo q is a mess sure.

  • Evan_
    Evan_ Member Posts: 562

    This thread is full of middle-mmr energy. That's where casually running around the map (and staying solo) doesn't work anymore, and people can meet opponents ready to counter one's go-to strategy.

    The game didn't change considerably ya'all - that's just how long it took you to climb up here!

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    I'm gonna give you last chance to prove to me that you're actually adequate with your answers.=)

    Please ask 1 my question, do you think very old DH were healthy for the game?

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959
    edited November 2023

    It was worse back in 2016+ xD

    If Developers didn't do anything for like 1 year after that, there will be no killer players. According to how the game worked back then.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959
  • ironligma
    ironligma Member Posts: 121

    I'm a killer main. I don't tunnel normally as I play for fun, same when I play survivor, no meta perks so I don't win much but whatever. Anyhow, I think the 5s ds stun would be fair because conspicuous actions still exist. If someone still wants the ds then no gens for them. It lessens my need for gen pressure which is non existent on slinger.

  • KA149108
    KA149108 Member Posts: 427

    I've played since Oni was released and I took a year long break last November and I'm taking another break. I'm just not having fun in this game and with the latest changed coming I've decided I've had enough. I don't want to escape every match but I want to have a match where I felt it was worth the time now all I get is Blight, Nurse, or SM and and just tired. I only came back to dbd because my friend came back to it but they've decided to leave it too so I doubt I'll come back to it tbh.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,977

    The "everyone is out to get me" attitude wasn't accurate in 2018 and it still isn't now.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,977

    Like, original DH? Nope. It was dumb and I argued against it even when it was ######### due to poor servers right after we swapped over to dedicated.

  • Melinko
    Melinko Member Posts: 291
    edited November 2023

    Fair? Killers tunnel at 5 gens in nearly every match and that is fair?

    This game is really busted at the moment. The Devs are balancing around the mythical 4 man SWF and the few of them that still play can spin any killer around sure but for the most part it is casual 2 or 3 man groups and solo q. And in those realms, killers just feast.

    The Devs have to stop worrying about the few sweaty 4 mans that remain and balance this game around 4 random players. That would get it back to being balanced but of course if killer mains can't steamrolll more then half their matches the tears turn this forum into a flood zone. Made For This gets nerfed (it needed one but this feels overdone) yet you still see killer mains defending Ultimate Weapon which is more broken then MFT was all while ignoring how much Trickster just got buffed to a silly high level (He needed a buff but this buff was way over done).

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    Killer tunnel at 5 gens got something to do with "old and now" DBD?

    I'm saying that DBD ATM is much more enjoyable and fair, then it was in 2017.

    In 2017 it was a complete survivor sided mess with insta flashlights, infinites and 2-3 pallets on 1 small loop.

    Killer powers (aside from 1 Nurse) were utterly gutted. Look at the Hag back then, or Trapper. Take a look how BNP used to work back then. Is that ok to you?

    Survivors could literally hold killer hostage and completely deny everithing the killer could do.

    It was literally a game about 4 friends bulling 1 guy. If someone saying that back then DBD were better - they're out of their minds, I'm not even afraid to say so.

    Now that the game got fixed, and all broken stuff got balanced, these survivors got mad because their "bully simulator" got off.

    Today DBD is about skill and good decision making. I'm personaly having 0 problem with that and enjoying the game, thanks to Developers good work.

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November 2023

    To be fair, 2016-2017 the game was objectivly speaking in a very bad state. But when i think of 2019 or 2020, the game was MUCH more fun as it is now, at least in my opinion.

    It is also understandable that you dont like people abusing bugs (i am totally on your side with this) but looking at the game right now as it is, i rather have those silly bug abuser instead of the mentality of players these days. Getting tunneled of the hook in every game, faul language after the game or super toxic survivors (yes, it goes both ways) is not the same but equaly unfun.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    It's not subjective btw.

    You can find even more videos in youtube only, on why old dbd was a complete mess.

    It's actually a miracle that the game survived. Good thing Developers got the changes that needed.=)

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105

    Half final is still going on. Small and Grandfinal will be held very soon :)

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  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959
    edited November 2023

    I did not have DBD back in 2017, my only knowledge goes from watching DBD from my friend's PC, as I was mentioning before.

    And let me tell you, he did not enjoyed it by any bit. xD It was a mess with insane ammount of issues.

    Right now, the only issue I personally see in the game, survivors thinking that it's ok to DC and abandon your team.

    From my recent match:

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    "I can't play vs xeno, thats why I'm gonna give up on hook at first chase, gl guys have a good one"

    This is the issue. Not tunneling, not camping, not perks, not killers. DCs - are the current issue with the game.

    Why? Because survivors forgot how to play fair. Each time their broken perks getting nerfed or reworked they forgetting how to play without them.

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  • tjt85
    tjt85 Member Posts: 1,662

    I'm kinda disgusted by the way Killers have been playing lately and even thinking about going Killer makes me feel exhausted. I'm still playing a little, because I want to earn enough Iri to buy Flashbang for my Switch account (since I doubt we'll see it again in the Shrine anytime soon).

    It's hard to tell if I'm a little bit burned out on the game to be honest. Maybe the game is just the same as always and my threshold for putting up with the usual stinky DBD play styles is lower than it was.

    Like, if I see someone get hard tunnelled out at 5 gens, I just want to be sacrificed or DC and go next. In the past, I might have been more willing to play on but not so much anymore.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    Ohh, man, it's not even "I don't like them" - I hate them. xD

    I can't stand such players who used to use obviously broken stuff, or poor balancing to take advantage, and even thriving on it, when they've won.

    It's just shameful and embarrassing on every aspect.

    Tho I think in 2019-2020 the game still was not better, but it no where near as bad as in 2017. Again, Developers imo doing great work improving the game.

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  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959

    I understand, that bugs are funny and goofy, but on some point, you just wanna win. I mean, this is the main reason you playing this game and why you improving your skill at.

    With horrendous balance and bugs that this game has, there is no way you could enjoy that for that long.

    Obviously it's fun for some matches, but then you just want to win. But you can't, because survivor that you're chasing keeps going into infinite loop, forcing you to abandon the chase. And then he T-bags you at the gate, telling you "ez killer" at the end game chat.

    Same goes for killers. It's not fun when you trying to get better at the game.

    You can't get better at the car, if it's broken.

  • mecca
    mecca Member Posts: 562

    It's veeeery bad indeed. It doesn't help when every update buffs killers when survivor is already beyond unplayable.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,959
    edited November 2023

    Sorry, I don't think you have any idea from a business point of view, how good Behaviour really are.

    If you don't like them - thats completely ok.

    But again, it's irrational way of thinking that "One of the worst teams" having an actually good game of it's genre for so long and with so many licenses.

    I've seen an actual bad developers before. From looong 2013 to 2020. And what do you think.=) Their games are dead. For good.

    Behaviour is none of them even slightest.

  • EQWashu
    EQWashu Member Posts: 5,105

    Closing this here, please remember when you create a thread on a public Forum to be civil, and to be open to comments from everyone that are within the Forum Rules; and not just be combative in response with those who disagree. Thank you.

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