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Honestly it baffles me how killers are more stressful to play than survivors
It baffles me even more when people defend that too. I play both killer and survivor (and when Demise comes out, I’m spending all my time with Jane and then Plague) and I can definitely say survivor is much more relaxing. It should be the opposite. Killers should be the role you want to play when you want to destress in the game, and surviving should be a testament to your skill.
It’s so backwards to put so much pressure on killers, especially when survivors in the current state of the game can just blow through it with ease and with so many options.
I’m not saying killers should be gg ez, but killers should definitely not be subjected to losing 2 gens before they can even get across the map.
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It's how the game's designed 😐️ I Love playing Killer but I have to agree, It's pretty stressful sometimes especially if your not playing the top 3 Killers. Killer's just have so much to manage and you have to stay pretty focused.
I usually have to take brakes from the game because It stops being fun at a certain point or I get Burnt out, but I still always come back.
If killer was easier I think It might ruin the fun for survivors, Just Look at legion. Part of me wants to buy Legion and just play him constantly since he doesn't require so much effort but he does kind of ruin the game in terms of fun for the other side.
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Just as an FYI Legion actually does require effort. If you aren't moonwalking or using Frank's Tapes, he can actually be a frustrating killer: he's 110% speed with barely any map pressure. People say that Legion is a braindead killer that doesn't require effort, but he's actually one of the weaker killers on the list, so, you know.
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See, I have Legion but I can’t really play them because their power disorients me and I lose survivors in the process.
I just think survivors have way too many options to just rush into the endgame, especially swf. Everything works in their favor, from items to teamwork to the fact that 4 perk slots are more than enough for them to survive since every survivor perk works toward that goal. Killers have just 4 perks to try to cover a whole laundry list of hurdles and objectives.
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Oh That's what I meant, Franks Mix tape on him makes him easy to use, at Base he's a pretty weak killer.
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It's weird because I more or less maintain the same Ranking for Survivor and Killer and yet I mostly don't give a rat's arse how my Survivor game goes, so long as I can do a couple Gens, get an Unhook or two, heal a person or two and get chased.
Heck, last night I did several Gens, healed, opened the Exit Gates and distracted the Pig Killer long enough for my GF and rando to escape while I shuffled on the floor, tempting to explode my head with the RBT as the Pig was actually obsessed with seeing it and then I let it pop, allowing my GF to escape via Hatch xD wasn't even remotely stressful.
Conversely..when I play Killer I always have this weird anxiety of always wanting to do well. It's weirdly stressful before or at the start of a match...which can sometimes honestly make me not play as often as I like....some stupid anxiety, ego and wanting to ne a good player....I blame my BPD and the Survivors who are Bullies xP
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For me survivor games are less stressful, because we are 4 people, but as killer I am alone. Even if I am more powerful as killer, all responsbilities lie on me, and only me. But as survivor you are only doing one forth of the work (ideally). You dont need to do all gens, you dont need to do all unhooks, you dont need to do all chases. Your performance, whether be it good or bad, wont matter as much as survivor. As killer you are the centre of the game. You are constantly planning as killer. You need to take the inititive. As survivor, you are mostly just waiting for something to happen. If nothing happens, you just sit on your gen.
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Killer is more stressful due to the fact unlike survivors the killer is constantly time senstive. Every action and decisions is eating up time and its imposible to know how much each sec matters at that moment. Are people eating away at the gens, are your totems being destroyed, how good is this survior and how much time can i let them loop me and still possibly defend a gen. Gates are powered, I have maybe 2 mins left to do something. Survivors have no time strains, they can work as stealthy and slow as they like. Killers don't have this on their side.
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Exactly this. The workload is shared in survivor but in killer it's all on you. Not to mention the survivors objective is holding M1 on a gen for a good part of the game, by the nature of the game it's always going to be more intense for killers.
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I don't play Killer nearly as much as I'd like to for this exact reason. I understand that Killers are on a sensitive time limit, and I get that it's part of the game's design.
Thing is though, when a decent group of Survivors can rush through in <5 minutes, it makes the game rough. Throw in the toxicity of a decent part of the playerbase and I just find myself playing more and more Survivor because I'd rather not get cussed out for not being a god at video games, and at this point I'm actually more afraid of opening a Killer lobby than playing Survivor.
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I always liked to play survivor but since waiting times on console can past 10 minutes, I did try on killer and oh boy.
The match barely starts and I feel everything is on fire. I do have a lot of trouble in losing survivors in a chase, and I can feel my anxiety building up alredy in the offering screen and it doenst matter if I did good or not, i feel emotionly drained after a couple of games especially after recieving a harassment or hate messages.
People say to grow a ticker skin or to not really give attention to this kind of behavior but those things do build up and if Im not in a good day, makes me drop the game for a day or so, being content in watching streams for a while.
I dunno, killers can be powerful but the amount of pressure they have to take makes me wonder if they are even being rewarded properly.
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@pemberley If you need guidance with Legion my guide might help. Just grab Bloodhound as your choice perk and you'll be good to go!
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SWF is totally unbalanced. If you get paired with an effective 4 man SWF on discord by the time you get the first guy 3 gems are done and the rest is history. Survivors manage the match as they want, the only thing you can do is try to get one and camp, waiting for the friends trying to be heroes.
SWF offers unlimited free perks and makes the game terribly unbalanced and unfair for killers.
As a free bonus, you get called out and flamed by toxic survivors on the post-match chat.
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It really disagree. I find killer to be relaxing after being tunneled, camped, slugged and legioned all day as a survivor.
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This is just how all assymetrical games are. Playing by yourself is stressful, especially against a coordinated team. Evolve, dbd, friday, Last Year, just happens. Sometimes against good players you just gotta white knucle it through and sweat a little lol.
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I’ve always noticed that killer takes more skill and if you make one mistake it is likely you’ve already lost. So yes I find killer more stressful.
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Do the survivors you play against not know how to play? Because unlike getting tunneled and camped, you are trapped there until THEY allow the game to end, while simultaneously they have the ability to rush the game to its conclusion. I would take everything you listed and still be able to die on the hook vs having a game where gens are powered in 6 minutes but the survivors refuse to leave for another 10.
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Please elaborate? I've just had a really fun daily quest as Freddy, I was doing really well but before I knew it, Everyone was out of the gates, zero kills.
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The biggest part of playing killer, any killer, is not to focus on survivors but to focus on gens. If you find a guy right away who isn't on a gen, chase him for a second to apply pressure and leave, if you can get a quick hit off, cool. Just don't let him distract you from your goal: gens. Patrol gens really hard. Especially middle gens. 3 gens strats are real. If you're really good you can get a solid 4 gen strat. You just gotta keep a level head and prioritize gens over survivors. Don't get caught in chases too long. Harass all the survivors, not just once. Remember: hitting 1 or 2 survivors quickly reduces gen time since they'll likely either be in chase, hiding, or healing. Which is all time spent not doing gens.
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Get better. If you are getting targeted each game, it's because you're making yourself a target. Either with pathing, or your ability to actualy lose the killer.
Not trying to be one of those "get gud" kids. this is legit advice. Check your pathing, and practice losing killers by muddying tracks, loops, and any other trick. If i see a weak link in a game, I will hammer it as a killer.
As for the post: Killer is stressful because the onus of time is on them. They have to kill these 4 people before they get 5 gens. And even when you catch them, you have to worry about flashlights, and people kneeling at your hook (something i am very vocally against, and any swf i'm in will not do this. ) You have to actively hunt and track.
But survivors start not far from an objective to do (because these generators are already repaired, they just need wiring work, not parts...) and pretty much have to hold one button, and tap another until they hear the heartbeat. You can clearly see it's easier, as most streamers, stream survivor. It lets them talk with their fans more. A killer has to focus a lot more, and for longer periods.
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I don't think the stress comes from the actual gameplay. Killers are more stressful to play because of player behaviour. If you're a survivor and you screw up, you get hooked and you die quickly. You can even struggle on the hook if you want out of the match quickly. The killer is not focused on you unless he's the angry "hit the survivor on the hook" type. It's just business and he kills you so fast he doesn't even stay to watch you die on the hook.
The killer, on the other hand, is trapped in the game with the survivors until he can kill them or force them to leave. If the survivors are d-striking, insta-healing t-baggers he has put up with a lot of abuse just to get the match over with and then he has to deal with the post-game chat and any angry "friend" requests. The SWF are just there to screw with him and view him less as an opponent and more as an object of amusement. Even if the killer beats them, they usually get their fun at his expense.
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Killer is stressful, so much so that I don't even play matches normally anymore. I mess around and try to play mind games or just practice downing people. Killer is much more enjoyable when you remove the stress of an objective. Watching survivors crawl to the exit always provides a laugh.
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After getting burnt out on this game, i started searching for a way that i find entertaining to play.
Now i've found a way and with it a more relaxing way of just playing.
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Do you pet the horse? :3
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I'm a rank 1 killer lol. I can post a video if you'd like. This has gotten me too, and planted at 1-5. I honestly try and depip half the time so I'm not totally white knucling it every game lol. I'm not saying slug everyone and never hook anyone. But i definitely patrol gens over survivors, if i can get a quick easy down/hook I'll take it but most survivors will take their hit and go teabag at a pallet, I'll waste the pallet and leave to patrol gens. Sure, confident survivors won't even heal up, they'll just get right back too gen jockey status. That isn't always the case though, if i can prevent everyone from doing gens by forcing healing, especially with Nurse's Calling, that's a huge win. Someone is hooked, someone is going for the save, someone is being chased, someone else is healing.
That means nobody is doing gens and progressing the game.
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Maybe there should be a counceling area on the discord server to help burnt out killers getting back into the game and of course to consult with them on relaxation techniques to reduce stress and therefore prevent a burn out.
*just kidding*
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TBH your advice is pretty specific to Freddy, as his strength in chases is non-existant but his ability to slow down the game CAN be very good when played the way you mentioned. Killers with no map pressure can't really afford to ignore survivors in favor of gens, at least not until they can force a 3 gen game (or a survivor or two is dead.) Its one of those rare cases where Freddy does something vital better than most of the roster, ironically.
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I've actually never played Freddy, maybe I need too lol. My play style is super suited too mobile killers like Spirit, Hag, Wraith, Billy. I also really enjoy playing Myers, Legion and Trapper. Huntress too, even though shes sooo slow and I play heavy focus with huntress. I always try and get quick two smack combo with her hatchet/melee.
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Devour Hope-required builds.
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Idk. when the game is no longer reliant on my team, and the outcome of the match is based on how I play, killer can be a lot more fun. only time that isnt the case is when theres multiple Insta heals or when survivors hug a broken structure all game
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in your example you give off the idea of being ######### on by survivors. if the killer is destroying the survivors, do they not also have a time limit until they're all dead? you work slow, your team dies.
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Agreed with you here. Both sides are very time sensitive. If a killer is doing really well survivors need to speedily do some gens to apply pressure. Just like if survivors are popping of gens before you get hooks, killer really needs to start nailing chases and get some hooks and damage some survivors to slow down the survivors and apply pressure.
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I actually enjoy killer for more than I do survivor. My reasoning is simply because it really is all on me (doesn't really make it feel any more or less stressful though).
I hate when trying to repair a gen if others mess up and blow the gen. Most times I was doing just fine on it then they come up and think they're helping. Sure it may be an accident most times but it seems like I can never really rely on the other survivors to be anything more than distraction. THAT's when the stress comes in....That's also why the solo playstyle suits me more. I may not be the best killer most days but when I mess up or lose horribly I know it's 100% my fault and I need to work to fix it.
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That's literally exactly how i feel.
when im survivor i can laugh at being chased, have fun winning or losing, and be content with dying 90% of time.
If im killer, the inexplicable frustration of not getting a 4K, or serious damage as a killer is overbearing.
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I honestly find barely any stress as survivor at all. i actually enjoy the chase.
As killer it's stressful.
As survivor i run the loops and when i use the pallet i run to my next pallet or vault or sit pressing spacebar on a gen
As killer i have to try and avoid getting smacked with a pallet, try and mindgame/moonwalk, take a risk of swinging at the survivor and getting the hit before he/she drops the pallet, then of course avoiding the flashlight/blocking/more pallets/DS.
All of this on a time limit.
You get the picture.
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It sounds like most of you just don't enjoy playing killer. Even when I'm stressed playing killer, I leave the game having fun.
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Nature of Asymetrical games and why they historically dont do so well is down to the power role being so strong. Think of it from a playcount perspective. If i find survivour more stressful I'll l play killer. But due to each killer requiring 4 survivours you need to keep a survivour player base of 4 for each killer.
If your lobbies take too long to fill then you have long queue times which pushes your game to an early death. Honestly killer being stressful over survivour is probably neccesary to keep the survivour player base high and make it so people can consistently play killer instead of being auto filled into a role you dont want.
If you dont believe me the support and jungle role in league is a famous example. Jason in friday the 13th. Monster in evolve. The list goes on but i hope explained why it needs to be this way. Potentially it can be counteracted by offering a bp bonus to one side to incentivise players to play the less popular side. But if anyone else has ideas it would be nice to get a discussion around it.
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