Why some people try to unhook themselves only in front of others ?

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Jacho
Jacho Member Posts: 53

Sometimes, I see people trying to unhook themselves only in front of other survivors. Why do they do that ?

I choose each time to let them go to 2nd hook phase (if no one else's here to save them they will), because I assume that if you want to troll, well, either 4% and it works or 96% and prepare for consequences, and that if you do unhook yourself, that means I came to the hook for nothing. But really, why do some people try this ?

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  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 2,481
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    Because they want the bloodpoints for unhooking themselves

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,565
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    they obviously want the BP for themselves and deny the BP for the one coming for the unhook while they think they get off hook anyways. It’s selfish and in my experience reflects that way in general gameplay (sandbagging teammates, not tanking hits etc).

    usually using the ‚it’s Fun‘ arguments when.. the fun only comes from possibly taking the BP for themselves without another benefit or actually any interaction at all that could be actually fun.. (it’s obviously something else with SWF mates)


    worst kind are those with Deliverance doing this, intentionally wasting the time of the surv team for trying to get the unhook

  • Jacho
    Jacho Member Posts: 53
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    Then tell me how I'm supposed to play with people

    Perhaps I should just try to unhook myself in front of others as well, and maybe even wait in a corner during the whole game to get the hatch

    Surely this will make you happy as a teammate

  • Volcz
    Volcz Member Posts: 1,126
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    Because they want to be selfish. Nothing more to it than that. If they fail the 4%, they say oh well I'm about to be saved.If they successfully unhook themselves, they get more points & you have just ran there for no reason.

    You do that in my face and I will immediately turn around and go back to a gen, I don't care. "Because its fun" is complete BS. People do it because they feel safe to do so, knowing they'll be off the hook either way.

    If you really think its because its fun, well keep doing it. But don't be mad or surprised if a teammate changes their mind in saving you.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 2,353
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    My thing is if you don’t save them or they don’t save themselves now it’s at best a 3v1. So you still lose in the end. What lesson did they learn exactly? It seems more harmful to the survivor team than that individual player to abort the save b/c they’re gambling hook states with a 4%.

  • Volcz
    Volcz Member Posts: 1,126
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    I like to focus on winning/efficiency. What you should be doing, what you are doing, what you aren't doing. Gambling a 4% vs a 96% not only shows me you are incredibly selfish but you aren't someone who cares about winning or efficiency. Its principle really. If I'm running over to you to save you, the last thing you should do is spit in my face and try that 4%. And the audacity to expect a heal afterwards, sheesh.

    We may lose from them dying on hook, but in the end they shouldn't have tried that 4%. There's been plenty of matches where someone's died early at 3-4 gens and we still make it to end-game or we get out. Its not a loss automatically. The lesson they learn isn't mine to teach. I just don't care about saving players that play like that. Like I said, if you want to try your fancy 4% in a teammate's face, go right ahead. Just don't be mad or surprised when they decide not to save you.

    & don't get me wrong. I still play the match out and try to my best extent. Its not like 'oh he's dead now, we lose. Lets just run at the killer and get put on hooks'.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 2,353
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    I mean that’s a fair response tbh. I have interrupted a 4% attempt with a save b/c at the very least it’s canonfodder that lasts a bit longer so I can try to escape. But I get why you wouldn’t go in for the save if they do that in your face.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 15,666
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    I mean, people can do it with Deliverance. It is a strong Perk and you can get constant Achievement-progress.

    I dont really see it as a valid argument to try to unhook yourself in front of Survivors who interrupted their Gen-Repair and took their time to get to you.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 6,798
    edited January 21
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    Deliverance is the perk you run for that achievement. The achievement literally came with the Spirit chapter that released that perk. So I don't buy that anyone is doing it for that reason.

    I've had team mates stupidly put themselves into second stage trying that 4% thing in front of you, or actually kobe off after I left an almost completed gen because I had to run across a large map to get to them, thus making it a complete waste of time.

    I know humor is subjective but I really struggle to see the humor or fun in trying to 4% needlessly.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 10,227
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    It is supposed to be funny, but in reality it is just an annoying situation for the rescuer.

    Back when the DC penalty didn't exist, some players would disconnect if their teammate managed to kobe right when they arrived for the rescue.

  • NerfDHalready
    NerfDHalready Member Posts: 1,451
    edited January 21
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    i'd expect someone not heal me if i unhook myself like that but it's still very petty. anything further than that is griefing (obviously), unjustified and unacceptable. please grow up.

    i don't attempt every time like that now because the rescuer might have unhooking perks, especially deli and we'll make it. i only do it in specific scenarios like:

    • i'm fully infected against a plague
    • the killer has (or might have) myc, devour or floods
    • the rescuer is still away but on their way so i try to maybe save their time if the match is going tight
    • the killer is coming at the rescuer but not very close so the rescuer is probably gonna get hit
    Post edited by NerfDHalready on
  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
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    Survivor main hating fun

    Anything new?

  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
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    How is something that doesnt negatively affect the match as unhooking themself in front of another survivor comparable to hiding all game to get the hatch?

  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
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    Even if it was for self-fishness/blood points/achivements or fun

    What does it matter. If you went there to get the rescue and the teammate got out of the hook theres no reason to get so pressed about it

  • BubMickey07
    BubMickey07 Member Posts: 298
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    I do it sometimes cause its funny but If you leave your teammates cause they tried to unhook themselfs then you're petty and a bad teammate and chances are someone else will unhook them and when your hooked you'll be left for dead.

    If it bothers you that much then maybe play killer or a different game stop trying to ruin your whole teams game cause someone tried a 4% chance mechanic that they know won't even work most times.

    I know this is dbd but I seriously can't believe people are actually upset at this smh.

  • Atsuka_Anarchy
    Atsuka_Anarchy Member Posts: 352
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    Easy answer. There's no plausible reason to do so when they have a teammate right there to unhook them. It's an easier game for the killer, though.

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,565
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    The funny part is that you know they are upset - they did come for the rescue after all and you deny them the unhook (which they might need for daily, challenges, emblems, perk activations or something else).

    meanwhile you gain nothing but 1.5K BP and an animation that not more fun then normal unhook animation.

  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 1,365
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    Because I'm running a luck build with slippery meat for the content and thREE SURVIVORS ARE TRYING TO INSTANTLY SAVE ME AS SOON AS I'M HOOKED-

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,375
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    It really annoys me but for the sake of trying to win the match I'll usually still unhook them. Solo queue is miserable enough without throwing the game for something like that, and thankfully I don't see it as often as I used to.

    If I'm not in a good mood though I may well just leave them to kill themselves on hook, it's pretty much deserved anyhow.

  • TSQuint
    TSQuint Member Posts: 88
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    If I run across the map to rescue someone and if they wait to unhook themselves, I'll leave. Successful or otherwise. You're talking some nonsense about "own chance of survival" without recognizing how stupid it is to do that. Because it's fun? No, it's selfish and utilizing poor tactics. Now you've wasted more time that could've been spent on a generator.

  • TSQuint
    TSQuint Member Posts: 88
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    You don't need people like that. You're better off playing your best, taking the L, and moving on.

  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
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    There should be indications for hook related perks such as slippery meat and deliverance when its active so people dont try to instantly unhook.

    the amounts of time i've seen survivors in the opposite side of the map doing a gen and then stop repairing it for trying to unhook me when I have deliverance make me go crazy.

  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
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    People admitting to throw the match because of this and then argueing that the people that unhook themselves are the ones throwing the games because there could be a chance that the unhooker could've had a unhook perk its nonsense

    missing 6 seconds of a heal cause you didn't unhooked with We'll make it wont immediatly leave to a loss as NOT UNHOOKING and letting them go to second hook stage wich is by far more likely to make everyone loss that game since they're 1 tunneling away from death.

  • Selfpreservated
    Selfpreservated Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 62
    edited January 23
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    Just heal them as they get out of the hook instead of just raging and trolling that way the time spent going to the gen wont be in vain since you actually will get the heal on a already hooked survivor or smt idk

    Unless this happens in a competitive enviroment i dont see no reason to get this mad about this topic just keep playing lol

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 6,636
    edited January 23
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    Probably because they find it fun and/or want the BP for it.

    I don’t do it because you’re potentially screwing your teammate out of perks they get from unhooking you (eg. Deliverance, WMI, etc.). I actually died one time because someone did this to me and I was then abandoned on my 1st hook at the end of the game when if I could’ve used Deli at the end it would’ve been an easy escape. But since they unhooked themselves with 4% earlier in the match I didn’t get the perk.

  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 1,365
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    Or when you don't run any hook builds and they just decide you going to second hook is a necessary evil for their gen to hit 50% when they're right next to you.

    Honestly this is also why I attempt to unhook myself these days.

  • Murgleïs
    Murgleïs Member Posts: 1,048
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    Lmao you are literally throwing because some poor girl tried to unhook herself for BP.

    Now I understand why kill rates are boosted.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,817
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    I know its for the points, but it's pretty irritating to leave whatever I was working on and run across the map just to have someone kobe in my face. There's no actual harm, but it somehow feels disrespectful of my time.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 15,666
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    If you would actually read, you would see I only do that if they bring themselves into second stage for being greedy. So if you remove a Hook Stage for the chance of 1500 BPs... Well, lets say, play dumb games and win dumb prizes.

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 1,162
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    Intentionally letting someone die on hook for no reason other than to spite them is griefing, yes. I'm not sure how you would possibly argue it wouldn't be

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564
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    And if someone do that to me, i would simply play stealth and selfish. And wait everyone die for hatch.

    Imagine punishing people for used intended mechanic.

  • Murgleïs
    Murgleïs Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 24
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    That’s what I said, you are indeed throwing. There are 2 others survivors who did nothing to deserve this.

    Also even if someone make a mistake that’s not a reason to throw.

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,400
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    My thing is i run borrowed time and we'll make it harder for the killer to tunnel the unhooked survivor. If they 4% percent and the killers returning. They are on their own at that point. My unhook woulda been safer then their kobe. So if the killer wants them dead. Ill let them handle themselves. Im not gonna obviously just leave them on or anything like that. Just any results from not letting me use the perks that could help them is on them.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 15,666
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    You are already playing selfish if you try to go for the 4% while someone else is going for the Unhook.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564
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    I am not doing that but i don't mind if someone do that on my face. It's not big deal to me.

    It's intended mechanic after all.

    And no, it's not selfish. It just fun gambling when you know you are safe. I understand it can be annoying for someone else, i am not expecting from you to agree with me on that but throwing the game is worse behavior just because someone tried 4%. 

    If i see someone do that to me, i would just stop progress the game and i would play for hatch. If you are giving free hook state to killer for no reason, then i am just stopping play match for team and instead i am playing for myself.

  • Murgleïs
    Murgleïs Member Posts: 1,048
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    As long as there is a chance to win I will always try personally.

  • Shirtless_Myers
    Shirtless_Myers Member Posts: 361
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    Rather than throw yourself at the hook immediately, why not do a gen or wait till their timer is going to hit second/death? Honestly, I need to run Deliverance sometimes in solo queue because nobody wants to make any saves except myself, in other matches, I get people who care more about gaining points than a safe unhook or progressing the game.

    I will unhook in your face if you aren't doing anything positive in the match beyond trying to divebomb my hook.

  • SkeletalElite
    SkeletalElite Member Posts: 2,681
    edited January 24
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    Mainly because you get BP if you unhook yourself, but its also smart because many killer perks that trigger on unhook only trigger when they are unhooked and not when you unhook yourself. For example, devour will not gain a stack, floods of rage will not reveal auras, gift of pain will not apply mangled/hem/repair slowdown and make your choice will not expose anyone,

  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 2,331
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    They do it for the funny. But I don't find it funny when I run off a generator all the way to the other side of the map to help them, thereby wasting my time and burdening the team with hindered efficiency. Especially if I have perks and/or challenges that rely on unhooking teammates. So you can have your laughs, by yourself. I'll go do something else without you, because you taught me that trying to help you is pointless.

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279
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    I see it as a bm towards me if successful, stealing BP from me for no reason.

    I would still unhook and heal afterwards, not gonna be petty as well

  • BubMickey07
    BubMickey07 Member Posts: 298
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    Same!! Like the chances of it working are very slim so if you have the chance who's it gonna hurt!