What happened to "We love versing Hillbilly!!!111111"!@!"11"???
Seems to me, the "I love to verse Hillbilly!" crowd doesn't feel the same way anymore. After nearly 12,000 hours in this game, his counterplay is literally identical now to what it always has been.
Be honest with yourselves and everyone else - you liked facing Billy because he was weak. Not because you like his chase. OG's ACTUALLY like facing Billy, and still do.
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I still like to go againts him, I don't think he is OP. Maybe the cooldown add-ons need a bit turning down tho.
But I bet Devs will go far than this and nerf his base kit. Mark my words! It will happend, they will nerf his base kit as well.
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I'm still having fun against him. I feel like this is another example of survivors having to do more than hold w and run to main building so the killer is "unfun" and "overtuned".
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So are all these Billy haters in the room with us right now?
I think I've seen more threads pretending that survivors hate Billy now than actual hate for Billy at this point. The only frequent complaint I've come across is about the lack of cooldown for missing, which has been a problem for different killers again and again lately and shouldn't be a surprise.
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I have seen three threads stating that survivors hate Billy now and approximately zero threads about hating Billy. Curious.
He does need his cooldown addons adjusted. It is FAR too strong for zoning. That's about all I'd change at the moment.
I do like playing against Billy, but it does get tiring. It's like Wesker. Do I like playing against Wesker? Yes, he's well-designed and fun. Do I like versing him 24/7? No, not really.
Same with Billy.
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I still enjoy facing Billy and I believe he's fine as he is (though the dissipation add-ons could be replaced because they're god-awfully useless). I've played a lot of Billy even before the Overheat rework, so I understand his counterplay.
Many newer players haven't played against a threatening Hillbilly due to how rare they were. Before Overheat happened, Hillbilly had better map collision, stronger add-ons, and more players. Once Overheat dropped, everything about his strengths were abolished. More indoor maps, worse add-ons... Now that Overdrive dropped, people are willing to learn Billy because he's far less painful to play as.
It makes me hope that BHVR does not listen to that crowd because this is the same thing that happened with Wraith. He pub stomps newer players that don't know how to play against a now threatening Wraith, they complain about it, and BHVR nerfs his base-kit speed boost from 1.25 to 1 second.
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I think you're treating all survivors as a hivemind instead of individual preference.
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Nobody is complaining about the fundamental concept of this killer by any means. He is still arguably one of the most fun killer to go against, and so was every other version of him. His issues go much deeper then "stong!11111".
Your argument overall is insanly bad when looking at the bigger scale of the killer roster.Lets lookt at the Blight for example. Is Blight bad? No, second strongest killer in the game. And yet, he is also the most beloved by survivors. Or how about Wesker? Or Huntress?
On the other side Clown is not really a strong killer, but disliked by the community.
I hope you see how flawed your statement is.
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The responses against Hillbilly might most probably be voiced by those who never enjoyed facing him before, so it's quite possible the crowd is different. Those who enjoy facing him most likely will still do. Those who don't will now have more reason to complain, due to him appearing more often.
I still love facing him and am really glad to see him more. However, all Survivors aren't the same and neither are all Killers. Assuming the same who loved him before are now against him is just that - an assumption.
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I still love facing him and playing him. always did except for during overheat because it made him so unfun. Like others have stated i just wanna see his cooldown addons reworked and his overheat dissipation and stuff since one side is straight busted and the others are useless.
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Nothing? I still love to go against him. He is still super fun killer.
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I genuinely think Billy is an S-Tier Killer now. Up there with Nurse and Blight. Whether or not he should stay there, I don't know. Most Killers can't really compete at the highest level, so maybe it's a good thing for those players to have another Killer to Vs.
When all the Billys have won so often that they'll be out of my MMR, I'll probably stop seeing him all that much. I think it's another case of over saturation, more Killer buffs this patch and a lack of Survivor interest in Alan Wake's perks that have created some uneven match ups between experienced Killers playing Billy again and not enough experienced Survivors returning to the game for them to play against. It's what always seems to happen whenever BHVR release a strong new Killer (or buff an old one), but don't give Survivors all that much in return. Everybody ends up dead at 5 gens 10 games in a row against the same Killer and it gets old pretty fast.
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I personally think Billy can be fun to verse... when it's not every other game. Same problem I had with Wesker when he released. I have no problems with a killer being strong, I have a problem with feeling like I'm only facing them.
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I can't fathom why it would be shocking that players might dislike playing against a killer that loses nothing from missing with their power. At least give some thought as to what changed about the character before over-simplifying the argument.
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It's a new killer rework, of a beloved killer that was unjustly nerfed 4 years ago. And the killer happens to be VERY fun to play.
Besides - this is how killers feel EVERY GAME. Versing the same perks, every game.
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Nah you are just overacting, you just want to blame survivors for something but you can't find anything. And you came here with that.
I am seeing more people actually enjoying against him. The only complaints i saw were about his missing cooldown and that's fair point to ask nerf.
But yeah dude, just keep blame survivors for whatever you want. They are evil, they deserves to be shamed.
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Those who say they liked versing Hillbilly are from what I can tell have no to little experience playing in the era where he was at his peak. Problem is he was never this glorified killer as everyone made/make him out to be. If anything he was seen VERY similarly as modern day Blight. It wasn't for nothing he was contesting Spirit for N.2, and were talking old Spirit here.
I can see Blight getting a similar reaction whenever he gets his basekit looked at.
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I play both sides and I have a variety of mains on both sides, this is not how killer feels every game. Every survivor plays the exact same with changes only being necessary for playstyle depending on what killer you get. On the other hand, every killer plays differently, even killers with similar kits play differently. If you stick to only one single killer, yeah every match is going to feel the exact same because you don't need to shake anything up in terms of playstyle. Survivor on the other hand, you depend on who the person playing killer chose to play in order to have any shake up since you can't just change survivor and have something new to work with, as I said earlier.
I'm not saying Hillbilly is boring to play as because I've played new Overdrive Billy, that's the most fun I've ever had as Billy even compared to pre-Overheat Billy. I can think Hillbilly is very fun to play now, but it doesn't mean I want to stick strictly to playing Hillbilly and it definitely doesn't mean I only want to face Hillbilly.
Both sides will always have a level of repetition that's always there and that won't go away. If we look at matches in the way you're looking at it for "This is how killers feel every game" then that's just how dbd is every game regardless of side.
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I like versing him. I don’t see the issue. Going up against him keeps me on my toes. Not a dull match by any means compared to some other killers.
it’s funny, I hate going against wesker so often but ppl were always saying he’s fun to go against and to play as. I hated him on both sides. Love going against billy and playing as Billy
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I still like facing him. Probably even more now b/c the chases with him are very high-pressure. He's always right on your tail. His missed hit cooldown addons can be nerfed but besides that, I think he's completely fine. IMO people are overreacting and/or not used to the pressure he puts down in chases so they go down fast.
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I still love billy!!! M1llies on the other hand, especially now with cool-down addons… my opinion on them is unchanged.
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I started playing the game in November and used Billy a fair bit before his buffs and I’m enjoying the reworked dude too. Sadly I’ve not faced him much as a survivor, but the couple of times I have over the last few days were such a buzz. Scary as hell seeing that madman rushing at breakneck speed at you ! Great fun :)
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