Killer buffs?!

But that is not something that has to do with solo survivor. Hell, killers even can´t change, like they used to be able before sbmmr.

A different, non ranked game mode might be in place.

I like doctor buffs but that's it, everything else will be trash in pub games especially huntress buff is wild, not only hatchet count but move speed .. ?

Buffing blight/huntress ok sure why not but skull m deserved some nerfs imo, her 70% killrate was supposed to go down but it's not, too much haste effect and map control. Weird changes overall, as usual most of it doesn't make any sense

honestly ? nurse is kinda hard to play I don't mind losing to skilled player, me I tried hard and I'm still very mid at nurse so I can respect skilled ones, losing to SM isn't interesting most ppl just dc nowadays, it's quicker

@Reinami

Yeah idk if it was nessasary to take the ability to see the boxes, I think that's one thing too much. But besides that they at least try to not overbuff her, yes.

Both sides need that QoL, and most of the killers being changed REALLY needed it. Huntress is debatable though.

I still hope BHVR helps SoloQ out more down the line, now that killers are getting what they need.

I want to apologise wholeheartedly for getting The Huntress buffed. I swear they've come up with these buffs just for me and all the other Huntress players who miss 90% of their hatchet shots. Ditto with the Clown on those rare occasions I might play him for a daily.

For the record, I don't think these Killers need the buffs they're getting just because players like me are god awful with them.

Very level-headed and measured assessment. I am not sure if that is allowed in this forum, as its neither killer nor survivor biased, but I guess we will let it fly for the time being.

Objectively speaking, I’d say that survivor was for sure in a better spot (including solo queue) in 2020. Now don’t confuse this as me saying it was healthier, killer was in a way worse position than compared to now and it’s way better balance wise for both sides now then it was then, a necessary change.

But as to your question, the things that were better for survivor in 2020 would be a mix of things that have been changed over the years, mostly map layouts/spawns, and overpowered perks. Map layouts used to give you chain after chain of tiles, the vast majority of them being safe. This was also during a time where anti-loop killers were not very prevalent being that Pyramid Head (you could very well argue Demo) kind of started that trend, he was released halfway through 2020. Correct me if I’m wrong too but I believe there were still certain infinites in the game at this time as well (I’m thinking about Groaning Storehouse). Most killers followed your standard M1 gameplay and add that onto the broken maps that favored survivor, that’s already a big enough advantage to say survivor was in a better spot than it is currently (maps are still a big issue but objectively more fair than they were layout wise). Gens took 50 seconds less in total to complete. Killer regression relied almost entirely on one perk (Ruin) that was in the utter hands of RNJesus that your totem didn’t spawn directly in front of survivors (this was also before they revamped totem locations).

Perks like Dead Hard for distance, Balanced Landing not giving you a stagger even when exhausted making certain loops close to infinites, 5 second stun DS paired with unbreakable (the infamous small pp build), made it so tunneling (which also wasn’t quite as prevalent as it is now, not to say it still didn’t happen) was not nearly as viable as it is currently. Items like medkits could give you personally multiple heals throughout the game. Toolboxes and BNPs were much much stronger and could guarantee a gen done by yourself in like 35-40 seconds, etc.

I definitely didn’t touch on everything and am for sure forgetting some absolutely broken things, but I truly think that survivor and by extension solo queue was objectively in a better spot in 2020. And l want to reiterate again that this doesn’t mean it should go back to that in that sense. It wasn’t very enjoyable (at least for me) to play killer back then as you constantly had a stacked hand against you, the games in a much, much better state of balance currently.

Objectively speaking though, when thinking about statistics, survivor escape rates (don’t even want to guess what they were I’m not sure) were definitely higher than they currently are. I think that’s what most people mean when they say solo queue is in a rough spot, it’s very hard to escape currently compared to how it was in the past.

Please don't give them ideas. What ever happened with Freddy, he does not deserve another nerf.

I guess Huntress could have gotten 1 more hatchet (no specific reason, I just like even numbers) and the option for a crosshair but 2 hatchets, faster movement while pulling up a hatchet and the 10% faster wind up are overkill.

I guess the Blight thing is ok... Although I wouldn't have buffed C33. The addon is still pretty bad, so it doesn't really make him 'm stronger but it makes the addon less useless. I'm not sure about the combination of C33 and Adrenaline Vial Though. This might be a bit too strong.

That's good to know. I was unsure because I haven't tested it yet.

Totally agree with you here on every point. Hexes were over nerfed to the point that they're only truly viable if you bring Pentimento. Playthings definitely not bad and Devour's can still be very scary but with how long the games gone on now, most people know totem locations and if they don't theres always the RNG that it can spawn literally right in front of them or out in the open.

The amount of times I used to get hit by DS even after I hooked somebody else was wayyyy too much 😅

I also think that a big reason for survivors suiciding more is due to the DC penalty and a way to get around it, a double edged sword essentially.

The archive challenges are often times baffling 😂 Essentially most of them read to me as "throw the game for your team or yourself. do this in a single trial."

And completely agree about the SBMMR system being flawed, it overlooks the most important thing a SBMMR system should look for, skill. You can't have a functioning system if skill is just an arbitrary metric.

I would agree.

Killers run the same META perks because if they don't they will struggle to get 3 kills. If they try to be creative with their build, they will struggle even against good solo Q survivors (high gen efficiency + decent skills for looping the killer).

I strongly disagree with the statement "almost every game someone gets tunneled". We don't play the same game I guess. It is more like one game out of four to be generous. And we have META anti-tunnel perks with decent maps all around.

Also the anti-facecamp works well against... face camping. I don't see Huntresses, Billies or Bubbas facecamping anymore, even tombstone piece Myers is gone. Proxy camp is here to last and is legitimately part of the game, we have to learn how to play around it.

For the anti-3 gen mechanic I hope this is a joke when you say it is horrible. We can literally 3 gen ourself with poor macro plays and not get punished by an automatic loss anymore. Killer can get punished for using surge/info gen kicking perks.

This means we can now gen rush without taking into account the gen spread. Huge W for survivors.

For Pig people complain about the Head pop nerf, but this feature was so easy to pull off and very hard to counter for survivors. One interruption, and you could guarantee a head pop. That was ridiculous. Instead now we have a killer with a decent chase power. She needs a better slow down however I agree.

2 searches minimum per survivor for 14 searches total.

I will play again one of my former main killer because she finally has a viable anti-loop power, not just a band-aid lucky-easy-cheesy head pop feature...

"the current regression perks that are being used will just carry and have 1-2 people dead before 2 gens pop".

===>Well in most of my games as a solo Q survivor, we got 2 gens popped with 1 to 4 hook stages depending on killer skill/survivor skill.

And then when pain res/grim embrace are gone, gens fly across the map. 2 people dead before 2 gens popped is a very severe loss. Not that common IMO, unless the survivors are underperfoming in chase.

Anti camp is in fact an anti face camp. This has been designed for this purpose only. It's horrible for people that think it is made against proxy camp.

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"And if current meta is needed while killers are getting their 4ks at 4-5 gens".

===> What are those games ? The average kill rate is around 60%. But when we read those posts it sounds like the average kill rate is around 80% LMAO.

Seriously when survivors got rekt that hard they must have played poorly. Unless they faced a very strong character and a very sweaty player and they are not prepared for this.

For those sh*tshows, this is what I witness : 10 seconds chases, grouping, on gens instead of splitting, running accross the map injured, etc. Fortunately we are not all that bad and we have some strong perks to punish tunneling.

Honestly people dramatize the solo Q so hard.

Improving Killer Base Kits and reducing reliance on / power of addons is a good thing.

HOWEVER some of these changes are straight up buffs and crazy buffs. Clown having 6 bottles is just ridiculous, same with huntress and her ridiculous plefora of changes. Doctor changes are good however still don't completely remove the reliance on certain addons, just makes the addons better so what's the point?

At high MMR nurse is probably stronger because it has a high skill cap but that's not what the average survivor experiences.