Nostromo Wreckage (Dvarka Deepwood)

I wouldn't say it favors Survivors. The loops are really weird at times. The jungle gyms sometimes generate nonsensically so that you can't really play it. You exhaust the pallet, and that's about it. Sometimes the bypass is too short so that if you drop the pallet at the wrong time the Killer just moves around and hits you anyway. It feels like this map is too RNG.

If there is a Killer that can clean up pallets quickly, I'd argue it's Killer-sided. The strong points are main and the bottom-middle portion since it has a good pallet/window setup. The "shack" on this map is bad too. Or at least I don't know how you play the pallet meaningfully.

Something about the map I just don't like as Killer or Survivor. I think it's the RNG lowering the expression on both sides when the tiles spawn badly, the fillers are unsafe, and the main building is mostly hold-W + pre drop the pallet early to force the Killer to break. Main building is mostly just catching up to the Survivor, so there isn't much interaction to be had there. Even the steam, which is cool don't get me wrong, is there just to slow down the Killer if they run through it.

Hands down worst map in the game, mainly because it's large and loops are mostly garbage.

The map feels a bit large and both sides of the ship are dead ends, besides being difficult to rptoect gens its survivor sided

Not my favorite map on either side. It's pretty big and difficult for the killer to defend generators, but a lot of pallets are kinda unsafe and the ends of the outside parts of the map by the ship are dead-ends.

The easter eggs inside the ship are cool though, I hope we get more stuff like that in the future.

Hard to judge since I've only had this map come up maybe 5 times so far. It seems fine I guess, I don't have any gripes.

This is another one of the 3 maps in the game that I feel very strongly about the color scheme. As I mentioned on Borgo's thread, please change the colors. When I get on this map, because I am almost completely blind in my left eye, the lack of different colors makes everything appear with no depth perception for me. No matter survivor or killer, I accept a loss when I load in, because I know my chases will be horrible and I won't be able to track at all as killer.

I love the idea behind this map, and the Easter eggs are amazing, but please reconsider the colors.

As for the loops..this is one of the most RNG dependent maps in the game. It's a bit large, so you want to think survivor sided....but...the collision is atrocious for collision based killers and the RNG of loops is so crazy that it can basically be a death sentence for survivors or suffering for the killer.

Not to mention, because the lack of clear loop indicators, it's very hard to tell what you were creating with the "unique loops" that you created for some of the sudo jungle gyms, and almost always lead to player confusion on BOTH sides when approaching them, so quick downs or drawn out chases if the survivor is running windows.

I really like this map and a lot of what it's doing. Having interactable elements and easter eggs like the Jonesy jumpscare locker are SO fun and unique, and I'd love to see other maps with similar traits.

The biggest issue I have with it is that it feels like it needs way more pallets. As survivor I frequently find myself in huge expansive chunks of the map with nothing to work with, unless I can get really lucky and spin the killer on a rock lol. The pseudo-shack is also very weak and there's very little reason to go over there as a survivor most of the time.

The planet-side of the map across from the wreckage is incredibly barren. As Survivor, it feels like there is nothing to use on that side of the map, and if this is the side left for the last gens in late game, the game can suddenly become very difficult.

Planet-side of the map mostly only has pallets, as well, and not a lot at that, I must add. If these pallets are gone early, Killers that can greatly take advantage of deadzones or killers that can approach quickly have an incredible upper-hand in this area, which while I would normally enjoy areas of consistent advantage for killers, it feels like this leans a little too heavily in favor of Killers.

Nostromo has some maze tiles are also kind of incredibly weak, and unfun to play around as Survivor. I'm especially not a fan of this one in particular:

There are also tons of open sightlines across the map anywhere that's not Wreckage-side, which makes it just as easy for one to be found as Survivor as it is easy to start pre-running to somewhere very safe very early.

Planet-side needs more high line-of-sight blockers, to make it easier for Killers to approach and more difficult for Survivors to know where the Killer is.

The raised platform of the wreckage is very cool, but it also makes it very easy for Survivors to see where the Killer is coming from. The relatively low fog falloff distance helps with this.

The sides of the map often have a lot of really strong chaining tiles and filler pallets, that if played correctly can waste an enormous amount of time. I suppose it can be said this balances out for having a more barren middle-area that Survivors must be more cautious in, but I think I would enjoy seeing resources spread out a little more:

The mechanics of the reusable steam pipes are an incredibly cool and unique detail added to the map, and I would love to see more dynamic and directly interactive map elements like this, more than just a gate that opens when a generator is completed! And perhaps something Killers can use.

However, since coming to live, it feels like the gimmick was learned pretty quickly and Killers can very easily sidestep or just wait out the Steam. It's a very cool gimmick, but not very practical in chase unless you're playing against someone who's literally never played the map before and doesn't know the steam is there.

Generally, while the interactive components of the map such as the Secret MU/TH/UR room and and Steam Pipes are incredibly cool, they are all elements that can only be interacted by and can only benefit Survivors - it would be nice if future interactive mechanics provided affordances for Killers to use for an advantage or to alter gameplay, as well.

Nostromo Wreckage is the licensed map from the Dvarka Deepwood realm and it introduced many charming features like the freezing traps at main building or the secret chamber of the keycard easter egg. The size of the map is maybe slightly too large for the generator spread. The main building is the largest in the game and while that is not an issue, the sides of it have such cornered space that it is very strong to defend hooks around the Nostromo.

Some of the filler loops have weird shapes that while mostly being okay, collisions sometimes get in the way. The filler loops also spawn windows in this realm and they can potentially create set ups with other structures. There are a few deadzones caused by the peculiar edge map.

The jungle gym of Dvarka Deepwood has one variation with the pallet next to the window, despite it being the official jungle gym and not an instance of the "impostor gym". This pattern of window and pallet is not exactly new, it was once a bug on a PTB for all the jungle gyms in The MacMillan Estate. This iteration makes the tile less interactive and it is not favored by the players.

The pallet gym of Dvarka Deepwood is highly peculiar given that half the time it spawns an insanely powerful window that singlehandlely shifts the strength of the safety in the entire map (since it doesn't always spawn and half the time it is missing the window). The finest survivors can stay out of chase and vault the window without blocking it. While Nostromo has 5 mazetiles (the middle one, an altered "four lane", being fixed and different from the rest), the pallet gym for some reason only spawns at the ones near the center on the sides and not always.

Nostromo Wreckage needs to polish some collisions (maybe adjusting the friction), relocate the pallet on the weird variation of the jungle gym, reconsider the strength or logic of the window at the pallet gym and potentially address the generator spread or hook defense issues.

Large maps can be balanced, the design just needs to be different than smaller maps. Smaller maps need more pallets since the killer can easily patrol areas and quickly cause resources to be used up in those areas. Larger maps are harder to patrol for killers but as a trade off there tends to be less pallets and more opportunities for creating deadzones. Killers need to adapt how they play depending on the map to a degree. Certain maps require different approaches and large maps are no exception. For example, low mobility killers generally just need to write off a corner gen or 2 on these larger maps which reduces the area they need to patrol making the map artificially smaller.

As you mentioned, shrinking maps further and further just leads to more gameplay and balance issues by allowing worse 3gens. Larger maps can be balanced and when they are balanced, killers need to learn to play around them.

There is one thing that really grinds my gears on this map and it's the unsmooth loop collision that makes tightly hugging loops difficult as survivor and also has a tendency to cause you to erroneously bump as blight

This map is meh? Idk.... On one side the map is large, making defense difficult. On the other hand you can get 3 gens in the ship where nothing is to loop.

The easter-eggs are well done though.

Cool design but it tanks performance on console so I can't enjoy playing on it very much. It's somewhat too big, and the level geometry's collision is terrible. Wish there was more Nostromo and less outdoors. The lighting is also too bright, it's eye-straining.

This is one of the best maps in the game and also balanced. You have many maps needing to be worked on so you can leave this alone for a long time.

Please remove the Airlock Doors offering and let the Alien Flora work for both Toba Landing and Nostromo

the map is same as toba way too cluttered and the loop design is questionable imo. there's a lot of tiles that look like tiles that we know (for example long wall gyms, short wall gyms) but then you actually go there and realize there's like a wall missing or one of the walls is just way too short, making the tile essentially useless. variety and adding new tiles that are fun to play around is a good idea, taking already existing tiles and ruining them, making them almost unplayable is not.

Very large. the weird shape of the walls makes it hard to use some killer powers making for less smooth gameplay and pointlessly hindering some killers. The gates seem to always spawn in the same spots and are almost impossible to defend both. Other than the size the general balance feels good.

gameplaywise one of my favorite maps out of the last ones you released. there are quite a lot of loops, but many of them are mindgameable. I also really like the idea of having the gas stations in the main building. those are really fun. you should make such unique chase things more often^^

Lots of clutter and the map is too big.