Noed and Legion threads
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Pallet looping is an exploit, as it shares several features with other exploits.
The survivors' collision is smaller than the killers', so survivors can turn around corners faster and make sharper turns. This causes the killers' faster movement speed to become less relevant, and it only gets worse when you take into account that survivors (the most experienced ones at least) literally hug walls and debris in general, and the killer, because of their 1st person POV, can't do the same.
Survivors are not passively just using pallet looping because it is there, they caused it to exist in the first place* and they have not practised any playstyle that doesn't crutch with pallet loops in two years.
*at one point, in the early days of Dead by daylight, survivors started to use pallets to farm and grief the killer rather than escape chases. Killers complained, got told to "just adapt", and we did. We started playing the hokey-cokey at pallets, when survivors were about to drop them. Long story short, the survivor dropped the pallet, missed the stun, and the chase continued. The situation worsened when a bug that caused stuns to award max boldness points was introduced. Some survivors would even disconnect after missing a stun, they were so desperate for the points, lol. Anyway, at that point killers started lunging mid cokey to get hits in and cut the BS short. Survivors went ballistic and drowned the forums in over eight thousand threads about "unfair" hits through pallet drops. So, patch 1.1.1 dropped and brought several buffs to pallets with it, the most noticeable one being the so-called "pallet vacuum". But there were also a set of unlisted changes that included modifications to both the range and time-window for a pallet stun, and also a reduction in the survivors' collision box.
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Posts on this forum never cease to amaze me 🤣
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I dont give a ######### about legion
They're annoying but no more annoying than every other killer so who cares
Besides that they're terrible at getting kills so it's more of a problem of legion being broken and not OP
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There are adrenaline threads in between them 😁
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Loads up game. Plays Legion. Doesn't use power. 2 kills despite double DS, everyone 3 hooked, or on death hook. "######### Legion." 9 Deviousness cuz Adren healing. Fractured Memeshed, and still dying to me walking around. Told them I didn't use addons, didn't moonwalk, nothing. Was told it didn't matter cuz I could just moonwalk and cheese and that makes him op.
Yup. Legion is a monster and should be stopped!
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Holy ######### I love you. Also, vacuums were also introduced as the devs, "Couldn't figure out how to stop players from getting trapped in pallets."
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People complain about what they dislike.
The 2 things are very very clear.
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Yeah, that's how it is.
- ######### camper dumb idiot tunneler ######### ######### kys11!!1! QQ
- But I wasn't camping and tunneling!
- But you could!
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Hey buddy, just stop.
Correcting others grammar is a form of ad hominem. It is not a counterargument and just portrays that you cannot think of a defence.
I'm assuming you only know 1 language, and you're not even a literary expert in it. Do you write books? Are you a renowned author?
The average person in this world speaks more than one language. Do you know the time, skill, and effort it takes to do this? @Arroz speaks Spanish AND English, maybe even something else. What do you speak? Just English? And you have the audacity to say he can't speak properly? The ignorance here is incredible. You literally cannot complain about his grammar when he knows more about language than you. This is not an opinion but a simple fact.
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Correcting grammar is not a form of ad hominem, FFS. Ad hominem is about attacking the person instead of the argument. RSB simply chose to step down from the argument. There's a big difference.
English is an extremely easy language to pick up, so don't make it look like it's a big deal. Oh, and it's not RSB's native language either, so your ad hominem rings hollow (well, more so than a generic ad hominem).
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Its is an ad hominem because he is ignoring the argument and instead is mocking his grammar. Perfect example of how to dodge debates - he has been in Arroz's shoes and is mocking him as if he was anyway special or different. If its not RSB's first language, then he of all people should know how hard it is to learn new languages. Is English your first language?
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It's not my first language either, and it was easier to learn than my own native tongue. English is an extremely simple language.
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Guys, stop with the flaming. Keep it mature please...
I don't think this crusade by some players against Legion is worth taken seriously. Legion is nowhere near the level of Nurse, not even Billy. People will eventually learn to counter him (the smart ones already have), and then all these complaints will slowly disappear.
A lot of "arguments" on this forum are just nonsensical. "NOED rewards bad killer performance", "DS has no counter", "Legion has no counter", "Legion gamestyle is braindead", "Adrenalin is OP", these are the most common, and there are others. These, *cough*, "arguments" are not only absurd, but they spread like an epidemic. Same way as people pick up words from streamers who struggle so hard to look intelligent ("optimal gameplay", "momentum"), players copy these rhetorics and put them in their post. Because 10 dollar words supposedly make you more convincing.
Guess what, they don't. If your statement is BS (like the one about Legion being uncounterable), no smartass phrasing it will make it correct.
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Wanted to respond to him, but you did it for me, thank you.
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You're the last person here who should be pointing the finger at other people for making baiting posts.
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This whole place is just a killer circlejerk. I came here when the site just opened, but left because it was dead. I come back months later and its even worse. At least reddit has some good memes.
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And you are the last person who should even post after all the nonsense you have posted.
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I mean you are the guy who is saying that suiciding on the hook is ok. No one takes you seriously after that.
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Argument? What argument? You call "ur bad" and argument?
If the answer is no - why are you still pushing, despite you are not right?
If the answer is yes - are you really at the mental level of the "ur bad" guy? Really? Was I supposed to throw "ur bad" arguments and other nonsense and behave like a child?
PS. English is probably the easiest of languages. If he can't speak properly in English, then:
1) there is an international subforum for Spanish speaking people.
2) he should not try to bait me with "ur bad" argument with his half-broken English, because it looked silly at least.
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Just going to remind people that this is an open forum, someones grammar or spelling is not an issue - don't make it into one!
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