Mid chapter tomorrow?

If the patch turns out to be as catastrophic as on the Ptb (vaults bugged, shop bugged, ds bugged and many more buggs) I don't think I'm gonna play. Not that I would be missing out much. There isn't much to get excited for.

Sadly.

I'm happy about the Tome

Not very excited for this update sadly. I had heavy excitement for the last mid-chapter but this one just isn't it.

I’m only excited about the new store layout. Disappointed about the rest.

Big store update and Unreal Engine upgrade to version 5. Reverting the unhealthy twins changes even though it had resources put into because of community feedback.

And people call this update disappointing while also demanding less content updates.

How big is the size of update though? Do we have to download the whole game, as it's getting updated to UE 5?

If the Tanuki thing isn't bugged. Gotta keep it real lol

-Added Tanuki

-Tanuki addition broke A, B, and C of the game.

-Tanuki killswitched

lol

No one is asking for fewer content updates, most of us want the content to pretend to fix issues the game has like buffing/reworking/QoL to low-tier killers like Freddy and Myres, new content for survivors like new items and mechanics, and game health updates.

The thing about the Twin rework is sure it's great they listen to feedback and didn't push that sorry excuse of a rework to live but that rework shouldn't have even made it to a ptb to begin with. Everyone knew that rework was bad even before they played it on the ptb by reading the dev blog that talked about it. I didn't see a single person who was hopeful for that twin rework going into the ptb and it pretty much played out the way most ppl thought it was going to play out. So the question is if so many could see the issues before they even played the rework then why didn't the devs see it? How did that rework even make it out of the planning stages when it was pretty clear it was going to fail to begin with? Thanks to the dev's shortsightedness, we are now left with an empty mid-chapter patch and dev time that can never be gotten back on a failed rework. Dev time that could been used better by reworking Freddy, giving addon passes to killers with over half of their add-ons being super weak or useless(PH, Freddy, and Sadoko), buffs/reworks to perks on both sides that are pretty useless, etc.

People are not asking for less content updates they asking for more meaningful updates that actually will help the game and make it more exciting to play. All this update is giving us is a small QoL update to twins that could been done years ago, a map update no one really likes, a store update that kinda cool, and an engine update. The good stuff in this update(store and engine updates) is nice but it isn't content and isn't going to make ppl want to play the game if they already burn out and want something new.

eh. Plenty of people are asking for fewer content updates. I didn’t accuse you personally of such but don’t pretend no one is doing this just because you don’t.

And sure, dev time got ‚wasted‘ on the twins rework. But then again, you also do not know how much dev time gets ‚wasted‘ on features being worked on that never make it to PTB to begin with. We know for example they have been working on anti-Camp features for years until they finally got to the anti-Face camp bar. And there was the ‚Early game collapse‘ - and those are just the ones they mentioned. Same with killer power concepts for flying or wall crawling. This doesn’t mean they would have prioritized whatever you deem to be worthy of their time if they hadn’t done what they were actually doing.

Indeed, we don't know how long the twin rework took but we do know they made us wait TWO years for it with little to no info about it leading up to it. That still doesn't answer the question of how anyone on the team didn't even think about how bad and broken that rework was going to be. It shouldn't had taken a PTB to show them how broke the changes they had plan and they should had reach out to twin mains doing the development to ask for options and ideas. A bunch of pvp game devs reach out and ask a select few to test and give feedback before making anything public. For example in OW2 when they were reworking Sombra doing the progress they invited streamers and other well-known OW players to test a few things under an NDA and give feedback. Since they did this the Sombra rework was a success since they filtered out the bad ideas thanks to that feedback and deliver a rework that was pretty damn good.

Im sorry if Im being hush on the devs I do respect them and the work they do but I want them to do better since I do pay a lot of money on skins, dlc, and on game in general. I expect high quality from a live service game that I spend money on and Im not going to settle on the fact they listen to feedback and take back changes that shouldn't have been done in the first place. You wouldn't praise a child for failing on a report just bc they admitted they failed, would you? That is devs right now, they fail on a rework and they should not be prise or celebrated for that just because they didn't go thought with said rework.

You can be happy all you want for this update but doesn't mean I have to be. Im honestly really disappointed about this mid-chapter and Im going to voice my disappointment. Also, I didn't take it personally, I just never saw anyone say they wanted less content. The only thing I see ppl say is they wish the devs would slow down on new killers to work on the ones they have now and also improve the games' health. Updating the store and the engine is not doing that.

That still doesn't answer the question of how anyone on the team didn't even think about how bad and broken that rework was going to be

so close to answer it yourself. It’s a team. Just because they decided to try it on PTB doesn’t mean everyone agreed it’s the best solution.

As to asking streamers/community, sure, but I still prefer DbD doesn’t go down that route. Most of the big streamers are already promoting very unhealthy and toxic playstyles but that’s just my point of view.
I also never said you shouldn’t voice your opinion. Just calling the general community out on being hypocritical. Constructive feedback is good and necessary.

You wouldn't praise a child for failing on a report just bc they admitted they failed, would you?

Uuuhm. Either I do not understand you bc of language barrier or I just do not agree with you on this generally?? That depends HEAVILY on the circumstances?!

[…] and also improve the games' health. Updating the store and the engine is not doing that.

Also I am disagreeing here again… updating the engine should definitely improve the games health in the long run (while also probably bring plenty of bugs with this update..). And the store also needed some work and at least that rework was done well..

I think the likely case is they may not have meant to take 2 years to update Twins, but since they had a low playmate they were not considered a high priority and probably got rescheduled over and over as other things came through the pipeline.

The rework did not feel like it took 2 years to complete. The only new assets were an animation for Victor latching onto downed survivors, and Victor glowing when he is vulnerable to kicks.

The rework consisted of adding haste when a condition is met for Charlotte (downing a surv with Victor or lockers) and removing the latched state when attacking healthy survivors and having it trigger an injury. None of these things would have taken months to program, in my opinion.

If the patch at least keeps the cooldown reduction to the 3 seconds on PTB for Victor, I will be satisfied, they have not actually stated if Victor is keeping the 5 second attack cooldown or not on successful attacks. I think Victor being able to move as fast on the PTB when injuring is a bug, because otherwise he would be impossible to kick, but having 4.5 secondary to down and swap vs 8 seconds would feel so nice.

This is such a weak mid chapter.

Survivors using DS aggressively is gonna suck. Haddonfield still seems unfun for both sides. Ultimate weapon getting nerfed sucks but makes sense but It definitely was too much. Twins getting QoL buffs is nice but they still have the same gameplan to slug everyone.

Respectfully, the Devs being willing to revert a ######### change doesn't excuse them wasting TWO YEARS on a change it took us five minutes to figure out was terrible.

I don’t even know why people assume I am excusing this in the first place. I am maybe more indifferent towards this as I know they also spent time/resources on features that we will never know about and I would rather see more of these make it to PTB without them being released on live.

I still prefer them reverting these ######### changes instead of just releasing them 🤷‍♂️a

main point was still Engine and Store update being big and not every update needs to be content heavy.

yeah. Pretty sure it is, the devs have mentioned the upgrade at least.
there were plenty of bugs and not all will be fixed. It’s for the health of the game in the long run good though. Hopefully.

He should be kickable just like he is now. That change was because he didn’t latch on to healthy survivors anymore, but that’s been reverted so he will still latch on to healthy ones and be kickable after a down.

Upon interacting with the tanuki as the Nemesis, the tanuki is attached to the Nemesis head. Therefore the Nightmare will get his weakness against adrenaline restored.

Upon receiving the event related Tanuki charm, all of the players progress on a random character gets removed. To compensate for this, the players affected will receive 100k BP over the span of the following year.

Did I miss something?

Well just played a match as the Twins and can confirm that if you get a successful hit on an injured survivor Victor does have invincibility