Slug Fest

If you had ever played against a bully squad who would abuse DS and other stun perks against you over and over again, you would've known why some killers decided to go full slugging builds after the recent DS buff.

It might not have happened in your games, but you know nothing about other games those killers had had during the last days. And some could do this as a preemptive measure, since the killer can't know in advance who has and who doesn't have DS.

And yet we have massive slugging before a Survivor is even hooked or in Endgame. OP even said that they were slugged in Endgame, your opinion was that they must have done something to annoy the Killer. Suuure.

But as always in this forum - Killer players cannot be bad people. It must have been a Survivor in the match who did something wrong. Or in a previous match. Or in the match before that.

People love to powertrip over some perceived slight. Letting you bleed shows that I am big and strong and you puny

It's just sad

If you are really getting slugged and bled out that much, it's something you are doing, there is no way you are getting slugged and bled out by 12/15 random killers you face. Do you have some edgey gamerword as your in game name? What build are you running? Are you doing something like running Boil Over and running to somewhere unhookable or power struggle and crawling under a pallet?

The only situation that is actually toxic is having all the survivors slugged and letting them bleed out, refusing to pick up anyone. This scenario almost never happens to even be worth mentioning or making changes to the game over. If someone sees this regularly I question the integrity of how them or their team is playing heavily. I play way more than most people and I never see this. Doubt I've even seen it once in the last 500 games.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with slugging for pressure or slugging one of the last two people while you look for the other. That's what the killer is forced to do because the hatch mechanic exists. If you don't want this scenario then argue for the hatches removal. It's just an RNG free escape chance for losing.

Slugging is not the same thing as bleeding survivors out. Those are two different scenarios.

For reporting for slugging, the devs said somewhere, and I believe in the rules too, that slugging, is not bannable, same thing for bleed outs I believe.

Or they have tomes that enjoy completely ruining trials in general. (This is a game issue, not player)

OR!

They just want to save their team mates from getting killed.

Or!

You're assuming you know everything about the game before it starts.

Its always something to make the killer deflect their own decisions. It plays out over and over again just like usual NPD. Starting to make a lot more sense.

Yes slugging sucks I totally get it. And I find it cringe when killer slugg to find the 4th survivor instead of just hooking. But you have enough perks to counter this playstyle.

Either with Plot Twist, Unbreakable, Boon: Exponential and Tenacity - other Healing or Endurance perks can help too! f.e. We are gonna live forever, Boon: Circle of Healing, Botany Knowledge, Buckle Up, For the People. Survivors have enough tools to go against slugging and I don't think they need even more base game mechanics. Anti-Camp and Basekit Borrowed Time are enough to support them and allow for other perks like these named above.

The killer doesn't care whether he was blinded for a challenge or for some other reason, it doesn't make the flashlight stun, especially at pickup-animation, any less annoying. The sheer obnoxiousness of the blind mechanic is the reason why flashlights are considered BM by default. I personally don't equip such challenges and don't pick flashlights when I play survivor, and somehow there are next to no sluggers in my games.

How have your games been? Same thing? If you had the power, how would you personally fix it?

When people complain about slugging, they literally are talking about bleeding out.

As a survivor, being slugged is just part of the gameplay mechanics. That's like getting mad about hooks or anything else.

Oh yeah I get you. And this is coming from a Killer main.

And now there would be an expected rise of slugging builds due to yet another buff to DS.

) DS gets buffed once

) gets a ton of nerfs

) the nerf that undid the one buff it got gets reverted

) "Yet another buff to DS!"

I am tired of pretending that I slug for "tactics" or "strategy".

When I slug in my games, I watch as all the survivors bleed out on the ground, and I love that feeling.

And guess what? There's a bleedout timer, so refusing to hook when everyone is bleeding out is actually not a banneable offense, and there's nothing you can do about it, there's literally nothing anyone can do that will affect the way I play my games.

That Unbreakable basekit change was so odd to me. It was meant to be a nerf to mass slugging/bleedout but all it did was legitimize slugging by giving it a certified Win Condition.

I justwanted the auto mori to only apply when the last survivor alive went down to prevent losing slugs so we all can go next :(

It's not even such a strong tactic, just go and pick up your teammate, you have 4 minutes of free time until they die.

You underestimate how effective hardcore slugging is. A lot of the time during the match the killer is busy picking up, carrying and hooking survivors. What do you think happens, when they stop doing that and use a perk (like Knockout) that makes this even stronger because it all but guarantees the slug will be on the ground for longer?

Their efficiency is highly increased. Pick up your solo team mate that you won't even see. I'll be busy slugging the next. At a certain point you start hitting and slugging faster than the survivors can reset, which allows you to get multiple downs and make it even harder for the survivors to keep up. All while nobody does gens because they are too busy recovering. There are a few killers, maps and perks that really make this an issue, especially when combined.

Have you played against a Knockout Doctor on The Game yet? If not, spoiler alert; you don't want to. It's disgusting.

The same goes for Head On and some others. Funnily enough, slugging is the only way to counter both of them.

The counter to Head On isn't slugging though (exception being on Midwich). You don't have to walk close to a locker when carrying a survivor. As for Boil Over, there is no need to slug everyone to counter it and even in a full squad it's not enough. To really make it work they'll need sabo toolboxes and Breakout. Sometimes Breakdown as well because there is always the possibility they go down close to a hook.

In most cases however, you can really play around it. It's not always fun but it's definitely manageable. Unless they send themselves to Badham with a basement offering for shack but that's a map issue.