How Do You Feel About Weave Attunement?

5% is trash make it 10%

the timed duration hastes effects are too short right now for perks. Unbound being 5% for 10 seconds is too low and machine learning is too hard to activate to be any use. Not sure about furtive chase. I think obsession mechanic is probably what makes me shy away from the perk. 30 second should be like a standard duration for these timed haste perks.

15% is to much 5% doesn't make an impact what so ever

Exactly it’s so stupid, like why is Huntress’s purple belt 3% haste for five seconds? Especially when she spends 2 seconds recovering. Yew seed brew essentially made her 3% faster for 30 seconds. They need to bring it back.

It's the difference between a 110 and a 115 killer, it's a pretty significant impact.

It's getting to the point where I genuinely believe some killer mains want to play a PvE game. They don't want survivors to have a chance to escape and feel entitled to 4ks every game with at least 3 gens remaining. They demand every buff in the book, they demand that every even remotely useful survivor perk gets nerfed, they want chases to be over the second they start because they want killer powers to be unavoidable, the list goes on and on.

Some killer mains crying that 3% haste ruined all of their chases, meanwhile almost every killer has some form of built in haste or movement ability. At a certain point, it's the killer players that need to adapt. If a killer player was upset about 3% haste, they've got to be playing a killer like pig, at which point, I'd be more upset about survivors prethrowing the entire map over 3% haste.

Weave is pretty good when paired with Franklin's. Outside of that, it's ok.

There's a couple of changes I'd make to it to make it stand out better by itself:

First, remove the "depleted for the first time" caveat. It doesn't really make much sense to have when there's a bunch of perks that restore item charges. Just make it whenever an item depletes.

Secondly, add a period of time where items specifically dropped by Weave Attunement's effect cannot be immediately picked back up. You can just pick them back up immediately in most cases because you're there when they drop.

If you wanted to make it really good by itself, you could add an effect that reveals the auras of Survivors while they're using an item. That might be too much, though.

Haste has different returns depending on the role. A 5% speed difference on Killer is quite noticeable but not extremely overbearing, but a 7% Haste on Survivor for example makes them REALLY tricky to catch.

The other major issue with Made for This is that it was pretty much unconditional compared to other Haste perks. Pretty much every other Haste perk has some kind of timer or specific condition attached to it, whereas Made for This was pretty much just "be injured".

5% Haste for like 10 seconds at a time is way worse than 3% Haste indefinitely.

Anyway, I don't think Weave Attunement should get a Haste effect, it doesn't fit and there are other, more fitting ways to buff the perk like I've suggested.

It's pretty bad when people ACTUALLY know what it does. But I've run into several matches now where people DON'T know what it does and proceed to try hiding in its radius. And as its usage rate goes down, less people will know what it does, which could actually make it stronger in the long run.

Sure, it tells Survivors that something is active, but it doesn't tell them that it's wallhacks, and I'm pretty sure the average player doesn't have every single possible perk memorized, if Chaos Shuffle was anything to go by.

Still doesn't make it above a mid-C tier perk without Franklin's though.

Yeah, this. Franklin is the only perk which makes Weave somehow viable. And 2 perks combo counter is still just pick up item, lol.

It’s good with Franklin’s, but not on its own.

When it lasts 10 seconds it does not make any difference

When its permanent and rewarding failure not to mention its 4% yeah its pretty busted. Yet killers haste perks is just 5% for 10 seconds that makes no difference whatsoever

I can't believe people are still out here trying to defend Made For This or that people don't understand the difference between a permanent 3% speed boost that you are guaranteed to get value out of unless instadowned, versus killer speed boost perks which only last a couple of seconds and usually have a niche trigger condition like "injure a survivor and then vault a window"

Anyway, on the subject of this thread: the Weave Attunement/Franklins combo is technically fine but absurdly annoying.

I don't think it's good design to weaponize the items survivors paid BP to bring into the match with them.

It's also less effective the better the survivors are, which is also not great design.

It will demolish a group of solo queue survivors who can't call it out to each other and may not even know what to do about it or what that little icon in the corner of their screen means. You know, the people you don't even need the combo to beat in the first place.

But it's totally useless against a SWF that checks for it at the start of a match or calls it out. You know, the people you need every edge you can get to beat.

Survivor's many complaints made it pretty clear that buffed Trickster is a uncounterable unfun mess

10-30 hardly matters yet killers didn't ask for haste perks and addons that's on the failure of the devs who can't properly balance speeds and map design on Survivors sides yet here you are defending MFT like it was a balanced perk that didn't create infinites on maps

What's next gonna say exhaustion perks should be infinite and have no cooldown I think not.

Now you're moving the goal post. The fact is, they have him a permanent move speed increase that didn't break the game by itself.

The fact that bloodlust by itself, for every killer, does increase move speed above normal is enough to destroy your argument here. And for the record, bloodlust lasts until the end of the chase, just like MfT.

Go ahead, move the goal post again.

The "it's fine because it doesn't do anything if the survivor didn't bring an item" argument falls apart when you flip the script.

Imagine survivors had a perk that punished - not just denied, but actively served as a detriment towards the killer for bringing addons.

The excuse of "it doesn't do anything if the killer doesn't bring addons" is just as silly.

Items/addons are literally the only things of value we get for BP.

It also punishes survivors for interacting with chests, which again if you flipped it around would be a bit like punishing the killer for playing nice and not tunneling/camping. Survivors are actually doing something besides a generator, I do not want to punish them for that.

What stops you from picking up the items? you even get a nice icon to tell you when it activates.
Also items in the blood web are dirt cheap.

Vecna + Franklin and Weave is the most fun I’ve ever had in the game, absolutely obnoxious to play against as a solo survivor though to the point I’ve given up on playing that role until the meta changes.

While I get the logic with what your saying, comparing addons to items isn't really a good comparison. From my view, items aren't a necessity to win even at the higher levels of skill. For some killers, without addons, the chances of them winning is essentially 0 even at lower levels of skill.

I'm also not saying you can't use the item ever. You can use a medkit and put it down in a corner after healing or a toolbox right before it goes away.

Your last point seems like an issue with objective speeds not the perk combo.

What is annoying about this combo with Franklins that in SoloQ most people won't go back to pick up that item and you absolutely won't waste your time running around are where the icon is displeyed since that would just get you killed. Againts good survivors that are organized as a whole this combo is meh.