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Ghostface is underrated.

SO, ghostface. Y'all think he's so bad, but come on, with enough practice he can be good. Im getting pretty consistent 3ks thanks to the stalking. Thoughts?

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  • RedPoncho12
    RedPoncho12 Member Posts: 157

    nah he’s still strong. I think his power is typically better for mind gaming than anything else

  • dbd900bach
    dbd900bach Member Posts: 703

    I'm surprised a lot of people here think he's a bad killer with a lot of weaknesses. I know he's m1 but he makes up for it being able to blitz survivors. Even good survivors still get insta-downed and if a survivor is just following you around, it should be kinda easy to lose them or surprise them if they're always at a safe distance.

  • CountOfTheFog
    CountOfTheFog Member Posts: 2,392

    I never win against him in a SoloQ group. Once the first Survivor is downed after being marked, he just snowballs everyone. I am trying to play him myself, but I always get caught stalking !

  • hermitkermit
    hermitkermit Member Posts: 427

    Many killers are deemed weak by the community despite evidence to the contrary, like kill rates and win streaks. Imo, it's important to remember that the community created these tier lists, and it's mostly based on opinion/personal preferences. I don't believe the devs release a killer character that they genuinely believe/designed/intended to be "weak". Each killer has different strengths and weaknesses and can benefit greatly from certain perks and playstyles and even maps; some base-kits are stronger than others (nurse, blight, etc.) but none of them are designed to be "trash." Just as Skull Merchant's high kill rates are more than likely due to players going on first hook, I believe Ghostface's kill rates might also be higher than reported because he is often played as a meme killer. I'm one such meme Ghostface killer, hehe. I wouldn't worry about what the community thinks too much, as there's alot of bias (we're humans it can't be helped lol).

    Glad you're having fun :)

  • AetherBytes
    AetherBytes Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 3,049

    I dont like playing ghostface unless its the Disturbed Ward map. Then I love sniping stalks

  • Cryptikk
    Cryptikk Member Posts: 418

    People don't like ghostface? I think he is fun and rewarding, he is my main killer tbh

  • VantablackPharaoh91
    VantablackPharaoh91 Member Posts: 580
    edited June 26

    As a Ghostface Main?

    I do not think he's weak. He's at least a solid mid B tier Killer. People underestimate him because his power is not flashy and doesn't cut off loops. That's it. That's all. That's why people call him weak.

    If you ACTUALLY are good at stealth and knowing when to mark/when to ambush, have OK M1 mindgame and chase skills (which he makes easier), and have good enough gamesense? He can decimate even SWFs. The one issue he has is that Reveal is clearly bugged, and he could stand maybe a little update to how it works and to stalk progress being reset on hit.

    If the issue is being followed around? Punish it with Starstruck. Since I started running Starstruck nobody swarms me anymore, they're scared of the Exposed. Nobody tries it, it's so relieving, I can keep my Shroud longer and be a threat again. Hell any extra Exposed helps, it makes people nervous. This is why Friends Til The End is also decent on him - reliable info and sometimes extra exposed, which he can capitalize on if they get too close.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    He is average or slightly below, he is fairly good on indoor maps with lots of line of sight blockers but struggles otherwise because his power of insta downing people out of nowhere only works when you get surprised or maybe a bit in chase, hiding the red stain, but other than that he does not really have a chase ability, so if the team is coordinated you will be broken out of your power consistently...

    All that aside his reveal mechanic really sucks... It is super inconsistent and you still get revealed from behind cover and what not...

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 3,361

    The thing with Ghostie is he is great in SoloQ with no comms...

    If you manage to 99 stalk 2 or 3 survivors and then pop and down 1 of them... the snowball potential is huge, cause almost no one can trade, anyone of gens without a good viewing angle can easily get cooked, and unless someone shouts out where his is or where he's going, he can wreak havoc on unsuspecting players.

    That said... one strong survivor or SWF who can effectively loop him and keep denying his power can ruin his day completely.

  • BlightedDolphin
    BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,875

    I do think he is on the lower half of the tier list but I do agree people make him out to be worse than he is. Especially when paired with Coup de Grace.

  • squbax
    squbax Member Posts: 1,493

    If the survivor has ears and eyes and knows how to loop there goes ghostface, nothing he can do aside from building bloodlust. He can mindgame? Wow would be a shame if I use a checkspot so I cannot be mindgamed lmao, he exposed me? Go to a jungle gym or main building if you have the distance thats it you should be able to loop him until the marked is gone.

    However seeing the skill of the average pub warrior that somehow still managed to lose to trapper, they must see ghostface as an incredibly strong killer.

    Ghostface is as good as the survivor team lets him be, if they are not lobotomized then ghostface is very easy to beat.

    Now an exception to this rule is inside maps and a ghostface that is using hit and run can actually be effective as it counters his main weakness, you are undetectable but people can still ser you from miles away and reveal you, in indoor maps this is not the case.

  • OmegaXII
    OmegaXII Member Posts: 2,216
    edited June 26

    He isn’t that bad, but he can feel pretty powerless if Survivors know how to counter him, especially SWF who constantly chases and reveal you.

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  • Beaburd
    Beaburd Member Posts: 998

    I think he is underrated as well.

    The best way to think about his power is that his stalk is a ranged attack that only hits when you want it to. Don't feel discouraged if you let people go uninjured, since you're still 'attacking' them in an indirect way.

    It only really gets tough against perceptive and good survivors on open maps or otherwise maps with good, directed check spots that can see you coming easily.

  • VantablackPharaoh91
    VantablackPharaoh91 Member Posts: 580

    I agree, perceptive Survivors are tough to deal with. That's where perks come in.

    However, most Survivors aren't in 4 stack comm SWFs, and most Survivors even then aren't THAT perceptive or strong. It's really up to what you run, how good your stealth play is, and if you understand how to monitor your time.

  • Choaron
    Choaron Member Posts: 363
    edited July 4

    You can consistently get 3ks with every single killer in DBD, it's nothing new.

  • Neaxolotl
    Neaxolotl Member Posts: 1,477

    He is not fast or reliable, he can onehit here and there but it's very unlikely he is anywhere near strong

  • Phantom_
    Phantom_ Member Posts: 1,354

    Enjoy those 3ks while they last lol. Soon you'll get matched against players who know who to counter him and play him like a fiddle instead. Then you're left to play him as a meme-er or lose enough times that you're back against beginners.

  • VantablackPharaoh91
    VantablackPharaoh91 Member Posts: 580

    Eh run the right build and trust in basic game skill, you will get back to frequent enough 3ks just fine.

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 4,556

    I think he's pretty bad. The worst of the stealth killers for sure. He just doesn't really have much going for him, he's a pure m1 and that's pretty much it. No mobility, still a pretty long cooldown, janky stalk and reveal mechanics. I WANT to like him but he's just… bad.

    At least Legion can consistently make people one shot with their power.

  • VantablackPharaoh91
    VantablackPharaoh91 Member Posts: 580
    edited July 4

    In my experience Legion getting a 5 hit Frenzy down against semi-good Survivors is way more Rare than Ghostface pulling off a marked down. They are much less consistent.

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 4,556

    I mean, as in Legion excels at keeping Survivors injured. Not 5-hit downs.

  • VantablackPharaoh91
    VantablackPharaoh91 Member Posts: 580

    Apples to oranges, @ReverseVelocity. They're different playstyles. Legion may excel at keeping Survs wounded but they CANNOT catch Survivors vulnerable while healing. Nobody heals against Legion because that denies their power, and nobody groups up against Legion either because that again denies their power. Against Ghostface you WANT to stay healed, which is a form of passive pressure, and can create a situation where at least one or two Survivors are vulnerable to being downed or stalked for later. You can even get multiple downs this way. Smart Survivors don't stay injured against Stealth Killers and don't heal against Legion.

  • SkeletonDance
    SkeletonDance Member Posts: 341

    I face him very rarely, but I would definitely play him over myers