How do you think the Myers update will look like?

There's no way tombstone piece and Judith's Tombstone survive, which is probably for the best. Other than that… I think the first thing he needs is unlimited stalk and less punishing conditions in Tier 1. Reworking Tier 1 to be a viable maximum-stealth approach and then changing the mechanic so he cycles between the tiers instead of T1 being a nerf state he has to escape and then never returns to might be a good move?

I think they might try to Incorporated his strongest addons into his basekit. Which i definitely wouldn't want to see. After hitting tier 3 a set number of times u get infinite or the ability to kill. I could definitely see them doing something like that. Im just praying for the complete eradication of Tombstone piece and that it.

I don't know, I think being able to grab and just straight up kill a Survivor is very unique to Myers. I'd be pretty sad if the Tombstone mechanic as a whole was removed, but Tombstone Piece 100% needs adjustments.

Agreed Myers would lose a big part of his identity if they remove it. And I don't relish the thought, because without being The Bogeyman, he's just another low-tier stealth killer. He deserves better.

I'd just be shocked if they left it in, considering how conservative they've been about things like Pinky Finger and Iri Head.

I suppose they might keep it if they follow the design philosophy they have with Sadako - that you can be moried on any hook if you misplay badly enough and the killer has to spend a lot of time building the status effect up. Judith's mostly applies in its current state, because it's only viable to run with Tuft and that takes forever to build up the stalk. But once the effect goes off, survivors are pretty doomed and unless they were already almost done with gens, there isn't opportunity for counterplay anymore. And it's much harder to prevent Myers from looking at you than it is to keep Sadako from gaining condemned stacks, because any gains Myers makes can't be taken back.

If they could make the actual games with Judith's more entertaining, I'd defend it harder. My big problem is that tombstone Myers is incentivized not to hit or hook anyone, just stalk, because he doesn't have time to do chases and still get T3 off. Which makes it easy to tell he has the addon, but it also means there's minimal interactivity or opportunity for points in that game. It's just hiding and occlusion and then one final chase.

I think people are expecting a lot more than what the devs will do. I think he'll eventually get a whole bunch of minor number buffs, QoL changes, and probably reworking at least the Tombstone Add-ons.

Overall, Myers current design fits him perfectly and he's been consistently one of the most popular characters in the game since he came in way back when, so I don't think he'll get too many drastic changes.

My proposal for Michael Myers Rework

Changes for base kit: 

1. Same stalking progression at all distances from Tier 1-4 of Evil Within.

2. Have 4 tiers of Evil Within and can stalk multiple survivors at once.

3. Survivors no longer have limited Stalk amount on them and will passively generate Stalk amount to Evil Within by +1% Stalk/5 seconds upwards to 100/75/50/25% per tier of Evil Within.

4. Tiers 2-4 can become activated at any time by the push of the Interaction button.

5. Stalking can charge and hold tiers above current tier plus store up to Tier 4 Evil Within.

6. Tier 1 Evil Within becomes base default again after a tiers 2-4 timer runs out.

7. New mechanics: Victimized (A Survivor will have their aura be revealed permanently while Stalking within 40 meters.)

Disturbed (A Survivor will receive 25% faster and smaller skill checks on all conspicuous actions, and 5% Hindered Movement speed for 4 seconds after completing a conspicuous action.

Disturbed status is removed after being put into the dying state or until the timer runs out for Tier 3-4 Evil Within.), 

Scarred (A Survivor becomes Mori able by any means even in lockers and suffers from the Blindness status effect. 

Scarred status is removed after the timer has run out on Tier 4 Evil Within.)

Knitting Needle (5 Knitting Needles for Survivors to use around the map to be used to prevent from being Mori 'ed while Scarred.)

8. While Myers is in Tier 1 Evil Within, Survivors being stalked can hear Myers Breathing after 3 seconds or until they become Victimized.

Tier 1: Unlimited, Gains the Undetectable Status effect, 110% MS, no reduced lunge, may teleport to Shadows near survivors you are stalking. (Shadows are dark, foreboding corners that Michael can emerge from and can be enhanced through the density of the fog in the map.

This reworks the Fog offerings to be useful or detrimental to Michael Myers.

Tier 1 allows teleporting to the Shadows up to 12 meters away from the Stalked survivor facing them. Example: The Cenobite teleporting to the Lament Configuration.) Stalking a Survivor(s) for 15 seconds becomes Victimized(Exclusive to only Tier 1 Evil Within) and no movement penalty while stalking.

Tier 2: 90 seconds, 16 meter TR, 115% MS, Normal lunge, Stalking a Survivor(s) for 20 seconds becomes Disturbed, allowing you to teleport to Shadows.

Tier 2 allows teleporting to the Shadows up to 16 meters away from the Stalked survivor facing them. -10% movement speed while stalking, and +5% faster vault speed. Charges required to reach Tier 2 is 100%.

Tier 3: 60 seconds, 32 meter TR, 115% MS, Increased lunge attack by 15%, all Survivors become exposed, allowing you to teleport to Shadows.

Tier 3 allows teleporting to the Shadows up to 24 meters away from the Stalked survivor facing them.) +10% faster vault speed, +10% faster breaking action speed, and -15% movement speed while stalking. Charges required to reach Tier 3 is 200%.

Tier 4: 30 seconds, 40 meter TR, 110% MS, Increased lunge attack by 15% all Survivors become exposed, +10% faster vault speed, +10% faster breaking action speed, +20% increase recovery from stuns/blinds, and all Survivors become Scarred. Charges required to reach Tier 4 is 400%.

Addons:

1. Tacky Earrings: Increases the movement speed of The Shape while stalking by +10%.

2. Memorial Flower: Increases stalk rate by +10%.

3. Boyfriend's Memo: Increases teleporting cooldown on Shadows by +10%.

4. Blonde Hair: Increases duration of Evil Within 3 by 5 seconds but earn -15% less stalk overall.

5. Reflective Fragment: Apply Hemorrhage for 90 seconds or until fully healed.

6. Jewellery: Increases the Movement speed of The Shape while Stalking by +5%.

7. Hair Brush: Increases duration of Evil Within 2 by 10 seconds but earn -5% less stalk overall.

8. Glass Fragment: Appy Mangled for 60 seconds or fully healed.

9. Dead Rabbit: Reduces The Shape's Terror Radius by 4 meters in Evil Within 3 but increases the Terror Radius by 8 meters in Evil Within 4.

10. Mirror Shard: Survivors who do a rushed action while being stalked are exhausted for 45 seconds.

11. Judith's Journal: Increases the Stalk rate on the obsession by +30% but decreases Stalk rate on other survivors by -10%.

12. Jewellery Box: Increases the movement speed of The Shape while Stalking by 10%.

13. J. Myers' Memorial: Increases Stalk rate by +15%.

14. Hairbow: Increases the duration of Evil Within 3 by 20 seconds but earn -25% less stalk overall.

15. Vanity Mirror: The Shape loses the ability to gain Evil Within 4 but moves at 120% movement speed for the duration of Evil Within 3.

16. Tombstone Piece: Reveals survivor auras while teleporting into Shadows while increases teleporting cooldown on Shadows by +5%.

17. Scratch Mirror: The Shape's base movement speed is set to 4.4 m/s. The Shape is unable to progress past Evil Within 2 but increasing Evil Within 2 by 90 seconds. Grants 300% bonus bloodpoints for each hit in the Devious and Brutality category.

18. Lock of Hair: Increases the duration of all Evil Within tiers by +25% but earn -30% less stalk per survivor.

19.Judith Tombstone: Grants unlimited duration of Evil Within 4. Requires 800% more evil to reach Tier 4.

20. Tuff of Hair: While teleporting and exiting the Shadows, gain the Undetectable status effect for 30 seconds in all Evil Within tiers.

Part of me doesn't care so long as they leave Scratched Mirror Myers wholly intact. It's one of the few things in the game that is always fun, and the closest thing to actual tension/horror DBD has to offer.

I don't even play to win as SM Myers, really. As long as I can make a few people absolutely crap their pants, I've gotten when I want out of those matches, lol.

Yeah on scratched mirror it's best to jumpscare people I have only sadly 4 lerys offering but few million bp on myers and got only 1... Then on other killers I got them all the time. It has made me wonder somethings...

I like vanity mirror too it's actually viable you can scare people with it too. I use dead rabbit and monitor abuse to reduce my terror radius almost non existant.

You could easily say this about a third of the entire killer roster in general. At this point there are so many builds (and entire killers) that are hard countered just by the map that I think you just know going into each match knowing that you might just be screwed, and I don't think there's any way to mitigate it.

But that's also just DBD in a nutshell; if you're not playing an and S/A-tier killer, every lobby you load into is a potential RNG-dictated auto-loss. Though I'll give you that with SM Myers it's even more pronounced.

I've just made my peace with that, I suppose.

Map blocking offerings are a decent idea, but you'd see many killers who don't need then really abuse them.

I like this idea but T1 myers should be able to lunge first off.

Tier 1 and Tier 2 should have gimmicks Tier 1 hes undetectable and stalking shows Auras switching to Tier 2 makes him more offensive terror radius is revealed but Myers gets 20% break speed and 20% decreased Pallet stun time

Tier 3 when enough stalk is gained Exposed no changes

As a Myers main I would like to see tier 1 removed, except for scratched mirror. Have stalk regenerate on survivors after X amount of time. Remove the stalk rate/distance feature.

Have an activation button for tier 3 like Oni does for his power.

When in tier 3 he should break pallets faster to go with the mega lunge and fast vault speed. After all tier 3 is supposed to be Mikey at his most powerful.

J. Myers memorial should be base kit.

honestly it would be way too much effort to change myers,

most i can imagine is reworking some stats of the tiers, maybe scratch mirror addons
or maybe upgrade the stalking system, so you can have a system of refilling someones stalk if you stalk someone else

Oh no I use that one with Scratched Mirror, let's me track without losing distance.

A hot take:

I would like for Tombstone to be partially basekit, but only for survivors that give you a really large amount of stalking points. That way, players will be punished for being careless.

Honestly, the rework idea presented by Mintskull would be the ideal change for me.

I've said numerous times, but the thing is despite Myers being weak, he is a very much beloved character in DBD... I think it would be kinda suicidal to do anything very drastic to modernise his power.

I think BHVR will keep Mikey mostly the same, but add additional stats onto his basekit... help with stalking, help with map mobility out of chase, and help with bolstering the power of T3.

Add-on-wise I can see Tombstone Piece being completely nerf batted, but I think Judith Myers Tombstone will stay for the Evil Incarnate achievement.

@UndeddJester Good because his power doesn't need modernising. It just needs buffs. He doesn't need a rework just updating of his existing kit.

They captured the feeling of the character from the movies. He just needs tweaks to his kit to put him in a more comfortable spot.

I think people get that. None of the suggestions I have seen in here would radically change his power. Just improve it.