To DS users: which DS replacement will you use?
Hi there, I wanna keep the survival/toxic level of DS now that it is completely ruined
I am going for "Head Up" or "Sabotage", any other suggestions?
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You can use Resilience, that perk is broken...
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Use No Mither. Counters Plague quite well. Tier 1 only though.
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No other perk is as strong as DS so there is no replacement.
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You should use No Mither to repent for your toxic sins
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Borrowed;
Prove Thyself;
We'll make it;
or Botany.
This is the change perks i've made on my builds with DS.
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We will make it
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I actually started using DS with deliverance. Throw on dead hard + adrenaline and good luck catching me end game.
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Im using deliverance already with DH and Bond, regarding suggestions I dont wanna be productive with Resilence @tt_ivi_99 I wanna keep being toxic + survive, therefore No Mither does not work either @PigNRun & @KillermainBTWm8
the best choice for survival + toxicity still "Head Up" or "Sabotage"
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What is the appeal of being toxic? No one will like you and some killers will remember you so you will have fun times.
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Try it, is like a drug
Being productive doing gens is like working virtually, as much as killer works
Toxic surv is the most fun style, I don't care if others remind
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DS
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Oh I see u won't replace it
Such a waste of perk slot
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I didn't use DS but added it after the patch and put on Unbreakable for Good Measure.
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Yep I hardly used before but now it’s going in my build.
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Ur sadistic masochist
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None, I play stealth build.
Lithe, Q&Q, SelfCare and SpineChill is my usual build, might switch SpineChill for head on
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Self Care or No Mither.
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@BACKSTABBER I will say I've had a few funny moments with head on so far but it feels like a hit and miss perk for me, there have been times I felt as if it should've hit and it didn't work even though it was activated , totally got clapped in those moments it didn't work lol
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A lot of players complain about tunneling.
If you feel tunneled, why wouldn’t you use it?
Its extremely powerful against a Killer focused on you.
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I'm the opposite. Didn't use it now I do.
Can't believe I'm gonna say this...but I like DS!
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You can't go wrong with BT and bond. There's never been a game I regreted bringing either of them into. You can run a great rescue build without wasting time rushing for a save someone else is closer to using those with WGLF and an exhaustion perk of your choice.
I swap out WGLF with prove thyself to gen jockey, small game for totem hunts, urban evasion for stealth, adrenaline to try hard or diversion for funsies.
ETA I didn't really run DS because I couldn't guarantee I'd get a chance to use it if I wasn't the obsession, sorry if I shouldn't have chimed in to chat builds in general :$
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I don't really play Survivor, so I never got to create my "Fat Survivor" build (Decisive Strike, Deliverance, Breakdown, Dead Hard). Now that Decisive needs you to be hooked first, it doesn't really fit the theme as well anymore, so I'd like a substitute. Any recommendations?
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we'll make it or botany, your teammates will thank you for it.
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That's not fat at all. :P
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Of course you would stop using Ds, only toxic individuals used it and now that it is nerfed every toxic individual stopped using it. Noob3 recently did a video and of course he is not using it, rather spin chill?! If you seriously hate it, use BT, and if you don't like it then sucks. DS is still useful, although I wish the stun duration was longer.
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Object of Obsession seems to be making a comeback.
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=P
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I'll keep using the Ds, Handsome and Beautiful
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@altruistic Because if the killer has Enduring, which is a very popular perk, you are going back down in literally 2 seconds. You better have Dead Hard and hope a pallet is right in front of you or it’s right back to the hook you go. The fact Enduring works against new DS is a joke. I guess the message from the devs is we don’t want you to tunnel...unless you have Enduring then carry on.
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Unbreakable or Borrowed Time for sure. Both are situational, but Unbreakable because it can be a game changer to a killer trying to slug. Borrowed time because it can get saves from a camping killer at the end game. Neither of these are “toxic” mind you, but BT especially can annoy a killer for sure if that’s what you are going for. An Unbreakable play where you lie near a pallet and when the killer approaches you pop up and stun him is hilarious if you pull it off.
BT is currently only annoying me though since it’s bugged.
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Nice point ty, UB keeps toxicity
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