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Why do we need to go to level 200????

Ryan489x
Ryan489x Member Posts: 1,498

anything past level 85 of the rift is just blood points I only have one question why????? Seems like a waste to me

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  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,327

    To let the number keep going up for longer. But as you said it's just BP, no actual items you unlock so you don't have to get there at all. It just lets you keep getting something even after you're done with everything else.

  • Ryan489x
    Ryan489x Member Posts: 1,498

    they could have just left it alone

  • HaunterofShadows
    HaunterofShadows Member Posts: 4,092
    edited July 21

    Why is this bothering you?

    Some people finish the rift sooner rather than later. All the tiers after 85 just give them a slight BP reward for continuing to play and collecting rift fragments.

    You said it yourself. There's nothing but BP after tier 85, so it's not like you have to complete all 200 tiers.

  • Ryan489x
    Ryan489x Member Posts: 1,498

    it’s not a big deal I’m just asking

  • TheArbiter
    TheArbiter Member Posts: 2,617

    Why would it be a waste to give free bloodpoints?

  • kvar
    kvar Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 4

    Anything beyond level 85 rewards zero cosmetics and only 5k bloodpoints per level.

    It's a "hey, free bloodpoints feature", not a "YOU MUST DO THIS" feature.

  • Toystory3Monkey
    Toystory3Monkey Member Posts: 829

    kinda wish these werent 5k, but 10-20k rewards instead.

    yeah, we get 115 levels which is 575k bloodpoints, but the amount of grind it would take could honestly land a bigger reward, esp with how many bloodpoint wastes there are.

  • Rumplestiltskin
    Rumplestiltskin Member Posts: 138

    There are several people stating it is so people have more to do. They are such an optimistic upbeat lot. The truth is the increase in levels is to get you used to them going past 85. Next Rift you will see the Auric Cells appearing near the end of that two hundred. ;) You see there are people like me, who figured out a LONG time ago that you only ever have to buy ONE Rift. Because you earn Auric Cells back, you can always buy the next Rift with the same Auric cells, as long as you finish the Rift. Most people finish the Rift. This equates to a loss of potential income.

    If they suddenly removed the Auric Cells from the Rift there would be a hell of a lot of Rage. So they are going the more insidious route, of getting us used to longer and longer Rifts. They give us the carrot with free BP to keep playing it long after we have finished the only part that had any meaning to us. Then with each additional Rift they will stretch the prizes (and ultimately the Auric Cells) toward the end of that two hundred steps. The goal being that not everyone earn all their Auric Cells back, and have to buy more to buy more Rifts.

  • Langweilg
    Langweilg Member Posts: 1,279

    I don‘t get why they didn‘t add shards to the levels after 85. 5k bloodpoints is literally useless :(

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,278

    Probably so that nobody has the feeling of missing out on something. Personally I would have put BPs in the free Track and a very small amount of Iri Shards in the paid track, but having only BPs is also fine.

    At least I see a number going up when playing the game.

  • Langweilg
    Langweilg Member Posts: 1,279
    edited July 21

    The thing is that I hate to spend bloodpoints and I also don‘t like loosing bloodpoints. This means I have to spend more bloodpoints to not loose them:(

  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 2,786

    Because shards are dbd money essentially and they want your real money (auric cells)

  • Rumplestiltskin
    Rumplestiltskin Member Posts: 138

    There will be some backlash yes, but by that time people will be used to the longer stretches of Rift and there will be less. That is the whole point of easing us into it, like slowly bringing the water up to boil on a lobster. Or do you believe, out of the goodness of their hearts, that the DEV set aside coding time to redo the Rift infrastructure JUST to give us more Blood Points because they were worried about people finishing them too soon? :)

  • ShyPirate
    ShyPirate Member Posts: 379

    This is directly contradicted by the fact that they just put shards into the rift for the first time and they are in the free track.

  • Rumplestiltskin
    Rumplestiltskin Member Posts: 138

    Time will tell. I agree that it MIGHT be wrong, but there is nothing unreasonable about the supposition. The DEV don't do work without reason. Changing the Rift infrastructure takes man hours and has a cost. They can GIVE us Blood Points anytime they want without it requiring labor as they have proved countless times. Nobody was complaining that the Rifts were too short. Most people feel a sense of accomplishment upon finishing them and simply continue with normal gaming.

    So what is the motive? It isn't something anyone asked for. It has to be part of a business plan. That is not an unreasonable suggestion. I gave it quite a bit a thought and the only reason from their side to increase the size of the Rift is to try and decrease the number of people who always finish it. And the only way that will increase profits for them is if/when the Auric Cells start happening at the end of the longer Rift, rather than spread out across it.

    They jumped it to 200 because they need to see a few Rifts at that number to make the call. They need to know how far along that 200 the average regular (not the crazy die hard) gets before time runs out. Once they know that, they can put the Auric Cells in the right location for them. My supposition is not unreasonable; it is logical. It isn't assuming anything nefarious about the DEV but simply pointing out that they are a business and most regular Players do not have to buy Auric Cells anymore because the one purchase guarantees participation in every single Rift.

  • Rumplestiltskin
    Rumplestiltskin Member Posts: 138

    You misunderstand my stance. I'm not complaining about it. I'm making a statement of fact. I'm surprised this didn't happen a long time ago. Behavior isn't our collective Genie. They are a business. They have to find ways to make money. Auric Cells were included in the Rifts originally as an extra carrot because if they were not there, it would require more labor to create even more cosmetics to make the Rift worthwhile. Blood Points aren't much a draw to any of us because it isn't that hard to get Blood Points. Besides, they throw Blood Points at us to fix all sorts of other problems.

    The Auric Cells are a problem because it sets them up for an eventual loss of revenue. In short, the Rift provides an endless line of free cosmetics once someone has bought the Rift once. It was a good marketing step at the start, but it is not useful now the game is mature. The problem lies in the fact that once you have given people something, they do get salty when you try to take it away. So we have to be weaned off of it. I could care less about the Rift going longer, but I'm pragmatic about why that is happening. I would prefer, however, that I have the option to turn off the "claim your reward" notification if the Rifts are going to go to 200 now.

  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,292

    I wish it was all shards or at least a few spots for shards.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,440

    This is a potential fear as well. I was gonna just say that semi-completionists like myself are gonna want to get all the way to 200, even if we really don't feel like playing at that point. Just powering through because we don't want miss out on rewards. It's a good strategy to keep players playing, but it'll also wear some people out and make them want to drop the game altogether.

  • Assassin97
    Assassin97 Member Posts: 35

    Who cares, It doesn't hurt anything, if you finish the pass, you get a bit more BP and progression, It isn't hard to get to level 85 if you play the game consistently, and if you don't then it still doesn't matter.

  • Harbinger1985
    Harbinger1985 Member Posts: 70

    I don't get it why this is a problem?

    1. It's for free track only, so EVERYBODY gets something
    2. You get your stuff at 82-85 level ad you're done, mission accomplished
    3. Like many said: their is nothing int he world make you reach level 200! IT's just a little bonus

    Personally I like it, even someone who don't get the premium get something. I mostly finish the Rift early, especially since I play double my usually playtime, if their is any XP event for extra Shards. I agree they should add IS for every 10th level, like 100, if they don't want gave us 250 only in the premium - which is also a nice bonus.

    What I see it's a busywork, who like unlocking stuff, getting more stuff for do or simply done the Rift soon and all those extra fragments feels a waste or meaningless.

  • BurnedTerrormisu
    BurnedTerrormisu Member Posts: 179

    why not unlimited?

  • AchlysShadeslayer
    AchlysShadeslayer Member Posts: 21

    Well, you options are you level to 85 then that's it, no more, the end.

    Or you get to 85 then if you are still playing then you get a few cents every few games or so...

    AAs long as they don't make the base rift 200 levels and fill the new space with bloodpoints I am happy. When bloodpoints are in the way of grinding for skins, Then I'll have an issue.

    Till then you are blind and your take is bad.

  • bornagain234
    bornagain234 Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 336

    Because I hit the max level on page 3 easily. Its fun for us.