Killer wait times
Getting kinda tired of the massive queues to play Killer in both modes. All I want to do is complete the new tome challenges. Been in the queue on 1v4 for over 20 mins this morning already. New mode is fun and all but really not digging the waiting times to jump on and play a couple of games. There's no way this mode is can stay in it's current form unless they're okay with the playerbase slowly dwindling away. I'm now at a point of frustration that I'm just closing the game down before a game even pops and it's only been a week.
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Agreed. The queue times for Killer mean that there are not enough Survivors playing. So there need to be changes to a gamemode like 2v8. (Personally, I would be happy if it does not come back, since what I said before exactly happened…).
It is kinda funny, the 400% BP-Incentive are not enough to draw enough Survivors to play 2v8 to make queue times for Killers fast in this mode, but they are enough of an incentive to remove Survivors from 1v4 to also make queue times longer there.
And I think despite the positive feedback, this is something that highly speaks against the gamemode. BHVR always wanted to avoid splitting their playerbase, now they are doing it and it results in long queue times for Killers in both modes.
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Two game modes with one taking twice as many players (so essentially 3 modes) splitting the available player base. Of course this is the result.
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Maybe, but that's not really the whole picture.
In theory, all of these modes have the same ratio of 1 killer to 4 survivors, and with MMR turned off in 2v8, it shouldn't really matter which queue people are in unless people are also switching roles.
Which is the real problem with 2v8: you have survivors switching to play kwf instead in droves, which is why the ratio is broken in both have modes right now.
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thats even what one of the devs said in another post
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Said this would happen all along. Splitting the playerbase like this is a terrible idea that’ll hurt the game more than it helps. Can’t understand why the 2v8 crowd didn’t see this. It was inevitable.
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So basically there aren’t enough survivors to mitigate long wait times in either queue. I wonder what this means for the true value of the survivor role in this game. What we mostly see are killer QoL changes made (which are good) while survivors… well, they typically receive very little. Perhaps this will change going forward.
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I suspect part of the reason it's this way it's not just the playerbase being split, but a huge chunk of survivor queue just being friends that want to play together and jumping to play killer because, let's be honest, killer is just way more fun than survivor.
And I think this might be the case because it's odd to me that they'd have to boost the survivor queue bonus to 400%. BHVR even tweeted "That's a lot of killers!" and I doubt this game mode just triggered a bunch of newbies to start playing and suddenly all of them agreed to play killer.
It feels like people are migrating because the only thing tying them to survivor play was the co-op aspect of it.
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MMR is still used for match making in these game modes. The adjustment to your MMR score is disabled.
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Lets not forget that general… shall we say, unwillingness of survivors to make the mode more enjoyable by holding M1.
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I only play survivor when killer ques take too long (like now), when I play with friends or when I want to play without headset. Survivor is in a bad spot for long time already in my opinion since the circle of healing nerf.
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This.
2v8 by itself would have no greater effect on queue times than any other game mode unless it was actually more popular than 1v4. Barring that, the only reason you're seeing a difference is because of the 400% incentive. Which is obviously temporary, so there's n no need for all this doomsaying about 2v8 in the long-term.
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All that tells then survivor side need changes to make the role more fun.
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Agreed.
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There should be a system for every special-mode where you only join the lobby, if the queue-times are too long for one side (more than 5 mins or so). You cannot choose a role and then it depends on your statistics in your last let's say 100 games which role you played the most (killer- or surv-main). Depending on this statistics a killer-main has a higher chance to become killer and so on. That would be fair for the players who play killer all the time in the normal mode to be preferred in these special-modes, cause they are killer-mains and no "Just-for-fun-Killers".
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