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Prestige finally hidden in lobby. Rejoice!
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Great and needed change. Pro tip if you're on Steam, you can also hide the hours you have in games in your privacy settings while keeping your profile public.
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The issue those people who complain about the change have is that they can no longer go lobby shopping until they find 4 p0 megs.
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What would you suggest is the fix to people lobby dodging for easier games?
If matchmaking is the issue, then hiding prestige should theoretically help fix that because less lobby dodging means more accurate matchmaking. It'll mean less experienced killers stomping baby survivors, and less baby killers being landed with experienced swfs.
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Great change. Now make it so they can't examine profiles until after the game is done. Anonymous mode should be on by default in the lobby. Then lobby dodging is solved. I would go a lot farther to be honest. I wouldn't even let them see cosmetics or items if it were up to me. Just a silhouette of the survivor is all that's needed.
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I've used anon-mode since it came out.
But I dont see why blame the victim instead of the fact that people are neurotic enough to scrutinize profiles for an advantage and BHVR should remove the ability to do so.
The end-goal being that lobby shopping would be reduced to what cosmetics someone is wearing. And even that can go too.
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Except it really is JUST a number. Being P100 does not equal skill. For example, I am a P100 Legion yet I am a survivor main. I just spend all the blood points I collect as Survivor on leveling up my killers. When I do play Legion (or any killer for that matter), I get looped for filth. Being P100 doesn't mean you're skilled; it just means you grinded to level up a character.
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lol "victim" people dodge me when I show off my 3000 hours and the fact my friends are in the lobby with me, this is so unfair that people might feel unprepared or unwilling to face me for any number of reasons
you choose your personal preference ill show off mine and expect stronger killers
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Same argument used against hiding prestige and it's clear the devs don't agree and are taking measures to discourage lobby dodging.
You are free to cling to your beliefs.
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As are you
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I don't think many high prestiges will hide it they want to show it off. If many people want to hide it killer has to dodge forever. I never seen killer harass high prestiges maybe sometimes ignore. Killers dodge for smallest reason so just at this point dodgers could be given dc penalty if that really want to be solved.
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people just use skins like they did before.
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This is the way, if you want to hide your prestige you can, and if you don't and want to show it off, you can. Allows people to choose what they want.
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I assume you'd be okay with making it so Survivor's can see the prestige of the killer in the lobby as well?
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Very good change. My experience as a mostly survivor player is that prestige level had little baring on game outcomes. I just got Yui to 100 during the 2v8. However, I rarely if ever play her. Instead you can find me playing my new favs P4 Gabriel or P9 Renato.
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You can still see everyone's prestige (including yours) at the end of the match
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No thanks, killers will know that if a survivor is choosing to hide their prestige, they're most likely a P100, so they'll just get harassed or lobby dodged anyway. Making it optional is a bad idea.
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I want to show it before game. Im totally fine to indimitate killer a bit and want my teammate to see me as good player and how much I have grinded. I could understand hiding it from killer but from teammates? Just no what is the point then to get P100 if you can't show it.
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If only it was possible for them to do something else. Maybe perhaps if you choose to "Hide" your prestige, it just shows your prestige as a random number below, say, 5.
Its a real shame that it is completely impossible to setup the feature to work this way.
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And what happens when the P100 player is playing with another character, like a P3? Do they start playing badly all the sudden?
This is just a placebo effect on you
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That works for Steam, but most of the playerbase is on the consoles
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Those of us on Xbox cannot even use their Anonymous Mode
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You can do something similar. I know xbox has their own profile privacy section where you can pick and choose like steam, turning off messages from non friends ect.
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my baby Dweet is like a neon sign for killers - nobody everydodges and I can imagine the killer licking their lips and looking for a Dwight shaped aura with lethal pursuer lol
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Why does this look like artist taking a selfie with tourists in the background? lol
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It is just sweats being mad they can be identified before a match.
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Oh since people can just make their acc look like someone elses acc and then record themselves cheating so BHVR does bann the wrong player, i'd recommend ANYONE to go and play Anon mode. I dont play with my acc name displayed no more i always use anon mode so some cheater does not use my name, i dont think thats gonna be a good idea to let them do that. And since BHVR does make it ultra hard to appeal such banns its better to not take the risk.
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I never understood why they hid ranks in lobbies but then revealed prestige. Frankly, I believe lobbies should be blind to all parties. Itโs the only way to ensure dodging is kept at a minimum.
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You don't get banned based on your username. Every Steam profile has an unique Steam64 ID which will always be attached to in-game reports. Don't know how you got to this conclusion or who told you this?
Reporting someone to get someone banned WILL ALWAYS(!) require an in-game report. BHVR developers will never blindly ban someone based on their username. Steam doesn't work with an unique username system so the way you think it works will never be possible. You can't just go to the Support Page and say "Hey, Jim_Tonic is cheating, here is a screenshot with his name".
You will always need an in-game report, which uses Steam64 ID's, not usernames.
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Those of us on Xbox cannot even use their Anonymous Mode ๐
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Why is that? I never read the explanation for why Xbox don't have the anonymous feature.
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That is so ######### ๐ค
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tell that to the streamer who got wrongfully banned because the cheater used their User name overlayed over their own while cheating and a BHVR employee saw the stream and got the wrong person banned, took way too mutch effort to appeal the bann. And if it was not a streamer that got affected, imagine how a random person would not even have a chance.
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Except this fixes nothing. It is a bandaid on a broken arm. The flawed MMR that puts p100 sweat SWFs in with a 200 hour killer is still there but now there is no warning for the stomping about to happen. This is just bullies celebrating being able to more effectively bully less experienced player.
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Hiding prestige is supposed to theoretically help with this. A dev has said before that a primary reason baby killers get put up against experienced survivors is often because the survivors were dodged by the experienced killer they were supposed to be facing. When dodging occurs, matchmaking prioritises queue times over accuracy so that players aren't waiting for too long. So, again theoretically, hiding prestige means that the experienced killer is now less likely to dodge, hence the survivors won't get handed down to some poor new killer. This gives matchmaking a chance to work as intended.
I'm sorry but too many killers want the privilege of being able to say they're in high MMR without any of the work that comes with it. They sweat but don't want to face sweaty opponents. They're the ones muddying the matchmaking pools and I'd wager they're the ones who are mostly upset they can't dodge to find easier opponents now. You say it's bullies wanting to bully the less experienced, and you'd be correct, but it's the killer bullies doing it because they're the only ones who get to see their opponents prestige. They're the ones who get to pick and choose and mess it up for everyone else.
Things will never be 100% perfect, especially during off peak times I imagine, but those are us who are willing to play the cards (opponents) we are dealt, shouldn't have to suffer because of those who want to pick and choose. Survivors can't see a killers prestige so we are at the mercy of a matchmaking system that is increasingly bypassed by killers.
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What I don't understand is that I load into a crossplay lobby and then people bail when they can't read my profile.
Lobby dodging will still exist but this is the best solution thus far.
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I gave you good reasons for why this is a mistake and all you did was to try to use my arguments against me. You can't roll this around...by hiding prestige they are ignoring the real problem which is MMR flaws. I'm not saying hiding MMR isn't a good idea. I'm saying it does nothing to solve the base problem which is less experienced players getting trashed by bully squads. It's like someone complaining about roads having too many pothole and construction workers are signs that warn people about potholes. It in no way addresses the core problem
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The way they implemented their Anonymous Mode violated some of Microsoft's policies on Xbox. When it rolled out to the consoles we had it for maybe two weeks until they patched it out. I believe they said we won't be getting it back.
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I am a P50 Jill Valentine, but what does that matter when I am playing P3 Alan Wake? Am I suddenly less experienced at the game because I am not playing as Jill Valentine or Claire Redfield?
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