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Tunneling, camping, and slugging is out of control
I know people complained before, but I've been playing for 7 years now, and it's never been this bad
Literally every game involves an immediate tunnel of the first person to get hooked, and the killer either hard facecamps to trigger the self-unhook and then tunnels them out or stands just far enough away that they don't trigger the anti-facecamp meter and then charges in as soon as someone goes for the unhook.
I haven't played a game in the last three months where the killer hasn't slugged aggressively for the 4k.
And before you go calling me a survivor main, I'm definitely a killer main, but I play survivors with my friends. We're not great, we're not a seat squad, and we don't bully, but killers are incredibly awful right now.
I'm sure the devs would tell me to take a break, but I suspect there's a reason why survivors seem to always get bonus points for playing right now.
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I mean effective strategies will be effective. But only as effective as the survivors allow it to be most of the time.
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The second statement sounds overly broad and incorrect if it's implying that a tactic that requires substantial coordination, planning, cohesion and has a much higher skill floor to counter can be easily acheived by four random people with no communication, no knowledge of each other's tactics and whose counter strategy that requires far more skill to implement than the skill required to do said tactic (tunnelling).
If you want to say that a 4 person SWF can train themselves to counter tunnelling then, yes, of course they can but due to the different skill floors they require far more effort to do so than the Killer does to tunnel and they will experience significant failure at the beginning which could be the OP's situation.
If the second statement is referring to solo queues, who constitute the majority of survivors in public games if I remember correctly, then you're more than welcome to show how you can coordinate who will try to take aggro, tank hits, rotate hook trades and implement strategies that rely on perk coordination with three other people who have no knowledge of each other's perks, don't know each other, can't speak to each other and don't know what the other is doing while facing a strategy that will be successful if any of the four random people make a mistake of any significance whatsoever.
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Yup and there is a high chance nothing will be done about it.
Just gotta wait for 2v8 to come back out and …. yup thats about it
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Is it possible your mindset is way too deadset on winning as a Survivor and not on just... having fun trying to see how long you last? In my experience it's more randoms that are the issue, not Killers… Getting a lotta sandbaggers as Survivor. Not a fan of how the 70 second hookstages are making people leave others on hook and thus farming the gens, either. Not to mention because Blast Mine and Flashbang activate sooner for less gen, people are just trying to get as many of those off as possible instead of sticking on gens like in the past, which is a full on detriment to the team - you're throwing even more than before running those perks and the Killer still might get annoyed and tunnel you out over it. Even the Sabo buffs haven't done much of anything because now people throw to sabo thinking they cut their team some huge break, and we all end up slugged.
Why is it that every seeming supposed good thing Survs have gotten in the past year has been a Trojan Horse? And why do we all keep falling for it, thinking these things are buffs when in practice they aren't, they're just excuses to get people off the gens and stop genrushing, excuses that don't even deter people who WANT to genrush?
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Tunneling, camping and slugging out of control? You listed 3 different strats there...I think 3 different strats being used is fine. It's not like it's just 1 tactic being used over and over. 3 shows some variety imo
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OP doesnt remember how bad that was before devs implemented various "anti" systems.
If you lose to camping/slugging/tunnelling killer in current conditions, that's really on you and your team. MAYBE not when you're facing S tier killers. Not even certainly, just maybe.
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so long as gen speeds are as astronomically fast as they are currently, deal with it . as a killer i have to deal with abusive survivors every game. the really problem is the MASSIVE increase in bully squads . people see content creators being " how to be a toxic survivor " or "how to make the killer rage" and try to Emulate that . if you wanna fix the problems THATS where they are .
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Not really. Its been like this from 2016. Did the game die or people left for this? Nope.
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BHVR has tweaked the game to make it that kind of environment.
If you have a complaint, you should tell BHVR.
The killer is just choosing the best solution among the limited tactics.4 -
Yeah, I highly doubt it.
But I would definitely want to watch the stream, or if you are EU I will gladly try to play with you.
Funny is, if you encounter it "every" game, then use anti-tunneling perks. So much guaranteed value. Just use DS and Babysitter.
Camping was just nerfed, so I don't really worry about this one.
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Imagine not bringing bt…😎
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run anti tunnel?
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With gens popping off within seconds, slowdown perks nerfed and sabo playstyle buffed…are you really surprised that Killers don't want their games to end with waiting till the survivors get tired of tbaggging at the exit gate and finally let them move on to the next game?
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Yeah well I haven't played survivor for week and decided to try today and immediatelly killer just tunneled someone out. He got the survivor out and then started tunnel next but we managed to finish gens. Ofcourse the killer then had noed and my stupid teammate went for unhook immediatelly when gates were not even started to be opened.
I managed to open my gate but was downed on the line with noed. Yeah I don't think I play survivor another week. This games just not fun after 2vs8 left. Bring it back permanently. All my friends have quitted or went for long break after 2vs8 left.
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Tunnel camping and slugging are concitered strats by the killer and are basically concidered greefing my survivours because if I happens ever game of being slugged that half an hour wasted after being slugged 5 times like yes their is a issue wit wit and u can call it a start but at the end of the day it only a person trying to forgo game mechanics to force a win is all it is
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