With all the balance changes and whatnot what's everyone's Killer tier list look like?
Over the past year and a half DBD has received a lot of balance changes, and not only that but as more passes on Survivors get better at the game which I feel has changed a lot of Killers' positions in the tier list. Killers who were previously seen as really great have been power crept or nerfed while some Killers who were seen as good but not great have been made very powerful. With that being said, this is my personal tier list for all the Killers in the game.
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Why is dredge so high? He is only good in midwich or against new players. Aside from that I think I agree with most placements.
In fact I find it really cool that this list has slinger higher than huntress, because for some reason pub players think huntress is incredibly strong, when slinger is better in everyway, except snipes, but a good player wont get sniped so its a non factor.
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Wouldn't many placements differ greatly depending on whether a controller or a mouse is being used?
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balance is such a funny word for a game that is probably more unbalanced than any other game in existence
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one astrick'd in my tier list is that it is with best add-on's and best perceived perks on killer. the one killer that i had hard time placing is Myer's because Myer's is 4/10 killer with purple tombstone and specific build but significantly worse without said build. Myer's placement if using tombstone is before Huntress. the killer are ordered, so I consider Nemesis for example to be higher strength than Xenomorph.
These exclusively my opinion when playing said killer and my opinion in judging difficulty in escaping said killer in soloq.
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All the top tier killers have very high mobility imo. With the exception of Pp head and Plague. Plague has hella slowdown basekit with survivors being insta down able always. Pp head dodges all strong survivor posts with cages and makes tunneling impossibly easy.
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Nemesis rank up
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Based on my experience on PC on how powerful I feel they are to play as and to play against.
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Hag in A tier ? This ain't 2019 babes.
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Why Piggy so low?
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Personal take - No specific order of ranking within tiers.
Context of tiers:
- Nurse-tier: Absolute monsters in the right hands, with the highest skill ceiling.
- Great-tier (S): Amazing potential, and great killers in skilled hands.
- Good-tier (A): Has good potential, and can provide good pressure.
- Average-tier (B): Can do pretty well against certain survivors, but are more likely to tie the game, rather than outright winning.
- Below average tier ( C ): Unless you do very specific builds, you are very likely to lose games with these killers.
- Unhealthy-tier (D): Unhealthy for the game in their current state.
- Freddy-tier: Just bad in their current form, and need a serious re-work to be considered viable again.
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How Is twins so low in all of them?! How Is blight so high in all of them?!
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Few notes and Explanations:
Each row is ranked Left to Right, so for example Nurse is better than Billy
I'm only taking into account yellow and brown addons and I'm assuming this is against a SWF
Billy is easily #2 in my opinion, almost every tile in the game is unsafe against him, he has instadown and map control. Throw on iron maiden and he no longer has any counters in chase.
Blight drops down a couple spots due to no longer having hug tech. Artist has better map control, and Plague wins if one survivor cleanses at the wrong time
Dracula is currently a better spirit
I'm obviously biased as a Sadako main, however since she can now look in condemn stacks she is a lot harder to play around, mid to late game all I have to do is keep tvs on cooldown and ill get 2-3 condemns easy
Hag drops only because you no longer need a flashlight
Freddy has zero chance of snowball whereas trapper and Mikey do. Don't think I have to explain Skully
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"Hey my time machine broke what year is it?"
"Blight and Nurse are S+ tier killers in DBD"
"Damn it could be any year..."
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i mean, blight on his first year was very very bad
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i´m not a comp player, but from my experience it is something like that
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Blight was objectively bad during like the first week when people didn't know how to actually play him and to hug-tech/flick. And I'll admit that his FOV was ######### due to it coinciding with his height. Not to mention how clunky collision was. But as soon as all that was fixed folks started to dominate with him pretty quickly. Which took 6 months /at most/.
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Rofl at Artist having better map control than Blight when chick's getting W keyed for ages on any multi-level map.
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They are in order but only softly. Quite a few of these choices I could easily move around with each other. I did the list somewhat quickly.
Top: No questions asked most people will see these three as the best killers in the game. I think Billy/Blight could be interchanged.Solid: All Decent killers and many of them could be swapped around depending on factors like map, add-ons, etc.
Debatable: All killers are of course debatable but I feel like the killers here are especially so and could easily go up, down or stay the same depending on so many different factors that it can be hard to place a lot of them.
Average: I think these are just your standard killers and again, could be swapped around depending on factors. I also feel like Wraith is overrated IMO. Judging from some of the other lists here this is probably my hot take. If anything I should prolly of moved him up to debatable.Needs Help: What it says, those three need some help. Also I think Freddy is better then Trapper unless you're considering basement Trapper.
Rework: Skully is getting reworked so not much point in placing her anywhere else. I haven't gone against her since the latest changes so I don't have any opinion on her otherwise.
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Literally no?
His PTB was bad, but on release he was probably the strongest itteration because of hug tech + jflick
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She a standard m1 killer who can't do much if the survivors pre drop immediately. She was C tier in my opinion before the last change to buff her dash. She lost the ability to see jigsaw boxes which allow her to get out of positions hits. I like the direction they are heading with her but it was ultimately a net loss.
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Well yeah but DBD wasn't initially released on console, so 99% of tier lists don't factor them in because it'd unnecessarily complicate things.
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Artist can stand next a 3 gen and spam crows at a 4th gen, while Blight still has to traverse the map. Of course some maps are going to be better for one killer vs the other. Either way it's personal opinion, both are very good killers in the right hand
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Blight being high makes sense, you can argue he is the second-strongest Killer, but he is clearly Top 5.
Twins being too low in most Tierlists is true. Twins are easily A-Tier and probably also contender for a Top 5-Spot.
Blight was only bad on the PTB, because we only had an outdated version of Blight on the PTB. Blight on LIve was strong since release and is still strong.
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If you know what you are doing she is A tier easily. The Queen of camping hook and gens and good at anti loop. Maybe you could put her at the top of B for being 110% when she shouldn’t be but I’d say A comfortably.
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Twins camping 's better, because traps arent all that effective at camping if you calll them out.
Twins on the other hand, can be at 2 places at the same time, while waiting for victor's cooldown , and it gets even worse with addons, with silent cloth making camping in this killer arguably better than bubba
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But she has pretty good stealth now with JMF. The addon fixes most issues she had in regard to stealth while also performing pretty decent in chase. I think shes a comfy c - tier next to Sadako. Thats just me though and you can have your opinion of course.
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I like doing these thought exercises, they're pretty fun. A couple explanations and caveats/asterisks here…
I'm not ranking Vecna or Dracula because I simply don't have enough experience as or against them, I took a fairly lengthy break over those two killers' release windows.
Generally, the criteria is including all of their addons and perk variety as part of what dictates their position; the more versatile, the better. The only exception is that I'm exempting Tombstone Piece because it's so fundamentally broken it catapults Myers up to like, A tier, and that's just misleading.
The S tiers haven't changed in years, but the gap between them and the A tiers has shrunk, as well as the A tier getting some pretty serious shakeups over the past few years. Billy is now fourth best in the game, only below Spirit because he's fundamentally more fair than her + the two above her, but Huntress has dropped down from A to B because of map design putting more crap to block her hatchets everywhere. Bubba, too, has risen to be kind of a sleeper threat, he's way better than some people give him credit for. Nemesis has been A tier material since release and he's only been buffed since then, so he's definitely not going anywhere.
I also want to highlight that, when I do these tier lists, I usually make a note to include an F tier that is almost always blank, because F implies the killer really is irredeemably bad, and throughout the time I've been playing the game that has happened maybe twice. Right now, there is an F tier killer, because she was executed. Usually this spot is blank because all killers can get work done, it's just a matter of how hard it is and how specific their builds have to be in order to do it.
A few killer specific caveats:
Singularity and Pinhead are rated based on the assumption that you can perform them to their highest potential, but that is really hard. The average player is gonna struggle to juggle manual Chain Hunts or the fifty different things Singularity needs to keep in mind at one time, so their mileage is going to vary.
While Billy does get the Most Improved medal, I think a strong argument could be made for Pig getting second best. The numerous buffs she's received over the past however long have really solidified her, she's genuinely pretty decent now.
Finally, Trapper and Freddy are pretty much in the same spot. Trapper has higher snowball capacity, Freddy is more consistent, otherwise they're about the same strength level. Shift them around relative to one another at your leisure, depends what you value.
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Yeah, she's A tier comfortably even tho all the Hag mains are begging for buffs and some of them even think she's worse than Trapper in her current state lmao.
Like literally all the things you've mentioned over half of the current killers roster can do much better than her and that without having to set up, a set up that can be easily removed by survivors and against SWF teams with comms ? She's legit just a 110% speed M1 killer lol. Like seriously babe, you need to join us in 2024 cause the "A tier Hag' you're talking about don't exist anymore after the massive power creep she suffered.
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Yes in 2016 the game was only on Steam. But the following year it was ported onto the consoles, and since then the vast majority of the playerbase is on them. The average player experience for DBD is playing killer with a controller.
Wouldn't it make more sense to include the input device that they necessarily must use to play killer.
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1st of all stop calling me babe. That’s offensive. Secondly I’m allowed to have my own options and I believe she is A tier. Name a single person who doesn’t want a buff for the killer they main. Maybe Nurse mains but that’s it.
And a lot of Huntress mains said she needed the buffs she got and still needs more. So by your logic she should get more buffs.
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For the most part I agree with the your list here, though I think Freddy will always be slightly better than Trapper simply because of the teleport.
The mobility you get with Dream Projection gives him an advantage Trapper just doesn't have.
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I feel like people severely overrate plague.
This killer is classic old dbd killer design where their power is entirely in the hands of survivors and without it they're just more resource efficient powerless m1 killer.
Even after her buffs she still relies way too hard on corrupt pools rng and survivors' actions to have the necessary consistency.
killers like her arent strong, they're just a knowledge check for survivors.
the only way plague can be consistent is by getting a lucky hook to camp when everyone is infected to maybe try to force cleanses and then MAYBE capitalize on that. which isn't even that realistic with the anti camp system they introduced.
mid killer that looks strong because people get scared and feed her infections. plague is one of the few supposed high tier killers whose mains I see lose games in public matches way more often than such players should.
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It's definitely true, Freddy has more going for him at any given point in the match, but it's important to rate a killer on their strengths as much as their weaknesses and Trapper really can snowball a losing game that Freddy would struggle much harder to win.
Ultimately I wouldn't object to putting Freddy above Trapper, I kinda just threw them together based on the order they were listed on the tier maker. They're pretty close.
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The thing about Plague that I think gives her such an edge over other killers is that, while she is dependant on survivor actions to get value, she's unlike other killers with that restriction because either action survivors can take gives her value.
Either she gets to be a massively empowered M1 killer because survivors are constantly instadown-able and easier to track, or they cleanse and give her access to one of the stronger chase powers in the game. The only time she's at a serious disadvantage is if the Plague player is outclassed by the survivor players so landing even that one hit with an M1 is hard. Even in that scenario, though, she starts with a free corrupted pool, so she at least has a chance other killers wouldn't have.
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Either she's a worse legion (bc she's tall af and cant mindgame properly) or she's op, yeah, except the second half gets denied for a very long time.
it all boils down to resource efficient (one less hit) m1 killer with really controllable power burst.
I dont respect that.
I struggle to see how Oni is as good as people claim (another massively overrated killer in my opinion) for a similar reason, but at least his power is not entirely in survivors' hands. He at least is bound to eventually get the first hit, suck up enough blood to get his power and then it's up to him. Plague, however, is not like that. She still is eventually dependant on survivors making the decision to give her power, rather engaging in whatever interactions (like Oni) that immediately give reward in case of success.
Way too many factors out of her control.
And then we have people putting her in the same tier with artist or even above. Weird.
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Yes, they are both pretty close, unfortunately.
Freddy shouldn't be this low.
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it is her iri seal. iri seal+devote amulet is 60 second of power 5 times per match. at hooks, plague is by far 2nd strongest killer at camping hooks. her machine gun purge downs people in seconds when clumped up and she has incredible synergy with many of slowdown perks in the game. The obvious synergy is deadlock with add-on. She also happens to be the best user of hex:plaything because her broken status effect pairs extremely well with oblivious. Due to this, Hex:Pentimento has large opportunity to be effectiveness perk for her because you have to choose between incuring -30% repair speed penalty or a potencial ranged stealth killer with instant downs. All classic slowdown are good for her. corrupt, pain res, dms, grim embrace. even obsecure perks like Hex:Wretched fate or Dying light can work for her.
playing vs iri seal plagues that camp hooks all game is not exactly the most interesting gameplay for survivor end but it works for killer.
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yeah, if the killer requires iri addons and specific perks to be considered A tier, this killer is definitely overrated af. especially iri addon(s) THIS busted. It's not that the killer that is good, sorry.
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even without iri add-on, green apple and yellow apple is 3 uses of power. you can play very passively in early game as plague, walk around gens, infect them. if survivor doesn't work on them, you get like free slowdown. eventually everyone does get sick, you go to fountain use your ability, your instant down ranged killer. playing territorial and camping has very little counter-play for survivor. your forced rush gens as soon as someone get hooked but with all stacking 4 slowdowns that plague can bring, it is not that easy to hook trade vs her ability and it can often lead to cascades slugs and snowballs.
lots of people have like 500 iri add-on on some killers so judging killer on best add-on is not out the ordinary. Myer's only that people hesitate to talk about purely because his regular version and his mori version play so differently that it is almost like different killer.
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already addressed that. bad fountain rng = lost game. still have to play around extremely finite resource. still have to go out of your way to get it.
and camping, as i also already said, fell off as a strategy when you cannot facecamp secure stages properly anymore unless you get super good bottlenecks which is also very situational and deniable.
so, as i said, overrated af killer who gets her reputation from stomping players who have zero idea what to do while not taking much effort or specific skill to perform.
plague mains are one of those "high tier killer" mains who you watch being stomped by any half decent lobby unless they bring iri. complete joke of a killer in a desperate need of modernization.
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pure camping does fall off as strategy, especially if it not done early into the match because survivor can do gens before friends however if you use slugging to down two people at once and you hook someone, defending objectives does work and plague is great for that type of gameplay. her perks also complicate defensive gameplay as safety net to do gens before friends. her ability to play offensively is possible but her lack of mobility and ability to transition into chases does not allow her to be pure chase offensive killer. it is the huntress problem. good chase, bad mobility. well… who cares about mobility if your standing in one spot and punishing altruism. plague banks on your inability to finish gens/gen-rush her vs her ability to punish you for ignoring hooks.
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I don't see any A tier killers get asked for buffs by their mains as much as Hag, when some of her own mains are saying she's arguably worse Trapper then you know she ain't a good killer when even her own mains don't rate her.
Also what Huntress has got to do with this discussion ? She ain't an A tier killer either anymore lol.
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Hmmmm... I'm not so sure... her apples and iri are good add-ons that maybe she is a little dependent on, but she has several options to mitigate her weaknesses, and Plague has unique traits that are fun to build around where her power gives her a unique synergy with perks.
You can make some pretty nasty perks/combos on Plague that get greater value from her power such as Coup de Grace, Blood Echo, Spirit Fury, Thanataphobia, even Alien Instinct, and of course Hex builds.
I think her only real issue is when she has her Corrupt Purge she has to mad respect pallets, because getting baby toed completely takes away her power, which can make getting some shots on tight tiles really tricky and frustrating...
Plague's identity is one where survivors pick their poison, and depending on the add-ons Adiris takes, may end up playing with fire for her to snowball very hard with either strategy.
If we wanted to make her power not reliant on Survivors purging, what could realistically be done without making her just a carbon copy of another killer?
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Her chase is decent if they don't pre drop only. yeah it a good addon but i feel she have the same problems as most m1 killers.
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I just assumed you would be one of the people who adamantly believe Huntress is A or S Tier like everyone else on these forums tend to believe. So I was trying to use it as an example of a “strong” killer being asked for buffs but I guess I was mistaken.
I’ve never played against teams that have consistently wiped out my traps so I guess I can’t really say. But every time I play her it’s a 4k blowout so that’s where I get my idea from.
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That is true. But the rbt's are the strongest slowdown in the game with insta kill potential. That on top of okayish antiloop and solid stealth is enough for c tier. At least for me.
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I'm a big fan of Iri Seal and "meme" addon.
Survivors are forced to spend all game perma broken, so survivors who notice the meme addon will never cleanse and thats how I get em with the easy Iri Seal downs
Paired with Tinkerer you'll always know where to go to find broken survivors. Paired with Fearmonger there's nothing for you to do but die.
Plague is a chess killer
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