In my 6ish years playing DBD Solo Que has never been this miserable.

Just curious, which killers are pay to win? I own all the killers and maybe I need to reevaluate some of them and play them more.

This is making light of actual issues though, and missing the point entirely. I can tell you barely play survivor, and why would you if you want to win the game occasionally.

Saying "balance is at it's best" is completely tone deaf to the huge issues the current game has. Balance has steadily been shifting in the killer's favor for two years now, and that's been the stated goal since the devs are pushing for 60% kill rate. An arbitrary number picked out of a hat, that a lot of killer players didn't really care where it came from because it had meant a ton of buffs and changes to allow killers to win more.

Balance is the issue here. Trying to claim it's "skull merchant mentality" is insane. That killer has a 68% kill rate, and that doesn't include any games with a disconnects or games with people dying on first hook. That means the killer wins their games TWICE as often as the survivors they face. That's completely insane for a PVP game. It's a huge indicator that game balance is in a terrible place alone.

But having survivors giving up more frequently is another indicator that game balance and game health are in a terrible place.

OP nailed it: camping, tunneling, and slugging are out of control. Survivors don't feel they have any viable options to compete anymore with the cascade of killer buffs given out and seemingly endless survivor nerfs. We're nerfing distortion for crying out loud, that's how bad it's getting.

i genuinely dont want to argue with a person who has mindset like yours, because you're clearly way too invested into the issue to see things clearly. I`ll still spend my time addressing your points, because I dont want to leave that misinformation hanging there.

>Saying "balance is at it's best" is completely tone deaf to the huge issues the current game has. Balance has steadily been shifting in the killer's favor for two years now, and that's been the stated goal since the devs are pushing for 60% kill rate. An arbitrary number picked out of a hat, that a lot of killer players didn't really care where it came from because it had meant a ton of bugs and changes to allow killers to win more.

"balance is bad because it doesnt favour bad survivors anymore". Im sorry to burst your bubble, but the "60%" killrate number includes the average games of all averagely bad survivors and killers. Im afraid I think I have to tell you that would mean that survivors are more likely to have bad players on average which would drag down the good players as well.

Balancing for 50% would've made sense when survivor skill issue factor would've been eliminated, be it competitive matchmaking or self sufficient design where each survivor has independent and equal chance to earn escape. None of that will happen, so you, as a solo q victim, will suck it up, just like killers suck it up when facing SWFs that cherry pick strong links.

as for skull merchant, have you ever considered people don't necessarily DC from the games that are 100% going to lose? Especially against a killer that was made socially acceptable to give up against 5 seconds into the match without even attempting to play the match out? Has a thought ever occured to you that maybe lots of these games couldve been won games because ultimately skull merchant is an overrated C tier killer with consistent (just boring) counterplay?

>camping, tunneling, and slugging are out of control

survivors have never had this many tools, including basekit mechanics, to combat that. Imagine showing your complaint to a person in like 2021.

"waaah camping tunnelling slugging is out of control and solo q is unplayable because we have no comms"

"wait you guys have like 6-7 meta perks just to combat tunnelling, just as many to fight slugging, basekit borrowed time, a whole system that makes facecamping physically impossible with rare exceptions and you have a whole UI system that TELLS you what each of your teammates is doing at any given moment?"

if you were sent far enough, you'd cause bootstrap paradox of an entitled survivor meme.

so i`ll repeat myself again, generally the balance isn't the issue. Both sides have the ability to take stupid and op ######### or perks that counter each other's playstyles / builds in rock-paper-scissors manner. The issue is that people refuse to try and are being cheered for that.

Survivors are at fault for their misery. Not this game's supposed poor balance (which is in such a good spot rn that people unironically complain about slugging which hasnt been buffed in years). People who give up, grief and fish for the "perfect" game, not realizing they should've taken a break from this game years ago are the ones that cause your misery.

On a semi unrelated note, Im seeing that people genuinely believe they can bully people out of camping, tunnelling, sweating,etc,etc. Should be focusing on bullying people out of giving up. Address the root of the issue.

Have a good day and maybe take a break from playing this game too.

But having survivors giving up more frequently is another indicator that game balance and game health are in a terrible place.

It's also a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even if the game was perfectly balanced, survivors giving up at every inconvenience would still make it miserable and inflate kill rates, and then lead to more survivors giving up at the slightest inconvenience.

It may be a generalisation, but survivors seem to be more entitled than they used to be, always ready to give up because they think anything the killer does is unfair.

This correlates to my experience as survivor.

For the last 3 months I've played survivor slightly more often and gotten to iri 1 each season. Comparatively I've gotten usually to Gold 3 or 4 on killer.

I play mostly off meta and chill builds either side, and the times where I get annoyed are 95% of the time causes by survivors.

It's dumb stuff like: -

• Looping the killer near the hook and allowing the killer to camp.
• Going for trades 20s into the hook timer to serve me up for an easy tunnel.
• Not touching gens until I get downed after looping the killer for 80s or more, making all time I buy pointless.
• Waiting around for flashlight saves that they ultimately miss, again making my loop time useless.
• All 3 other survivors trying for saves instead of someone working on gens. What's the point? I'm not dead but we've just kicked the can down the road.
• Letting go of gens the second anyone gets hooked to rush for the save. I have perks and a position way better for this save, but nope I'm the only one who waits a moment to see what the killer does.
• Only doing the gens on the outside of the map and/or all on one side, giving an easy 3 gen.
• Looping the killer near said 3-gen and getting downed in the middle of it.
• DCs because it's a Spirit, or a Wraith or because they got bamboozled on the first loop and downed fast.
• SoH for the same stupid reasons, forcing everyone to drop what they are doing to save.
• Refusing to do anything risky and leave the death hook players to take all the risks making saves or taking chase.

All of this infuriates me, because it gives the killer exactly what they want to create pressure. It's rare I've seen a killer truly hard tunnel or hard slug or hard 3-gen, often it's the result of being given the chance to do it by survivors who just don't use the large thing between their ears.

Yet on killer I have a rule of letting people go who try to play on if people quit... about 10-20% of my games people quit, and I don't even tunnel, camp, slug or anything if I have another option... I just don't get it 😕

skull merchant was murdered because it was survivors' fault, it's an objective fact.

2.0 haste/injury version was boring, but there was NOTHING about her that warranted insta DC every game. I could understand if she was like old Legion where she just hit you once and then moonwalked for 20 seconds for guaranteed down, but she was merely a worse and slightly more annoying clown.

people refused to play still because they couldnt let go.

>and Solo Que is not balanced it’s the worst role in the game

SWF isnt balanced either, it's the best role in the game, so? Almost as if BHVR made a compromise here because they cant balance purely for great and terrible teams.

"Waah waah waah, I'm going to perform a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify the fact that I'm playing the easy role in the game." And the funny thing is killer mains like you that complain about survivors "giving up" dont even seem to realize that the ability to give up is the only reason that survivors, solo que survivors at least, even keep playing the game at all when it is so completely imbalanced in the killers favor. So if you want to both keep the game completely imbalanced as well as complain that god forbid survivors arent forced to stay in the completely unwinnable games, then go play a single player game instead and dbd will probably be better off for it.

I gotta say, I started in Jan 2019 with just under 5k hours over my accounts (I don't share progress or link to BHVR) that solo queue is pretty rough these days.

I would say my escape rate is down to maybe 10% when I am running an efficient solo queue build.

Dying 90% of the time started to get a bit depressing and I was not having fun, so I decided to switch up what I want out of matches and instead I now always run Head On, Flashbangs and Blastmine and instead of caring about escaping I go for maximum stuns and blinds in a match.

I would say my escape rate hasn't reduced that much from a pure solo queue sweat build and I at least get a laugh out of constantly hitting killers with a very annoying Head On into Flashbang blind combo lol