Tunneling, Camping and slugging should be punished.

"If you play in a way that I don't like, you should be banned."

Let's make such a list for survivors as well and then we can all enjoy getting banned together.

Look. I roll my eyes at players who sweat like their lives depend on it when their opponents are obviously outmatched, and I roll my eyes harder at the ones to stop to gloat about it afterwards. But playing to win should never be against the rules.

Not only is that punishing people for the high crime of playing the game… it's impossible to police consistently, or in a way that wouldn't backfire onto you eventually. "Trying too hard" and "making an experience that isn't fun for the other side" are incredibly subjective. It's pretty rare that all five players in one game of DBD are having fun at the same time and don't have any problems with how the other players are playing. If you start to go after players for playing hardball, where does that stop? Are four toolbox lobbies bannable? SWFs? Nurse? Map offerings?

if you run the killer for longer than 40 seconds, you're automatically put on hook.

if you down the survivor in less than 40 seconds, they're automatically healed back and given 150% speed burst with endurance.

both scenarios are ruining the fun and enjoyment for the other side respectively. they should be eliminated. in a case when killer downs survivor at precisely 40 second mark, the snake bites its own tail and forces survivor into an endless loop of being downed and picked up which makes the game kick both players out for being smartasses and replaces them with fun and fair bots.

Should gen-rushing also be punished?

"No, that would be ludicrous, gens are literally survivors only objective. Don't be silly, lad."

So whats the killers objective then?

"To kill survivors, duh. … oh… damn"

Jokes aside, I acknowledge that dunneling and slugging are unfun playstyles AND are getting out of hand, but they are more or less a symptom of an underlying problem and not a cause.

During the last couple of years both sides went through a lot of changes, and each change brought a phase of "fufufu stop crying, just git gut" with them - and being backed against the walls, both sides did: survivors ditched playful builds and fooling around and favored gen efficiency, splitting up and pressuring multiple gens at once, leading to the "3 gens pop first chase"-syndrom, while killers first concentrated on gen defense, which was subsequently nerfed, and so learned to prioritise to make the game 3v1 ASAP, or lose hard (in most cases).

Also, the increased hook timer weakend hooks A LOT. Coupled with the ever present danger of a flashlight/bang safe out of nowhere or a pallet dunked over their head of of nowhere (again), many killers opt to no hooking again, showcasing how strong this tactics has been since the games inception, since it was basically never changed. But it only recently got a problem, with killers all other avenues being blocked or made that much harder.

Now, once a certain portion of the population learns such a tactic and gets it down, its impossible to make them "unlearn" this. You can pull out the whip and FORCE them to play by your rules, but this will always meet with repercussions and bad moot, which isn't ideal.

People always say that the whip works better then the carrot, but I feel that we have never made spreading hooks and going for late kills attractive in any way, and THIS is the point where we should try to change something.

If the killer gets a suitable reward for spreading hooks, while keeping everyone alive, be it BP multilpyers, but also basekit gen regression or gen-speed debuffs or gen-blocks etc. and if all this bonuses would go away with the first killed survivor, then we would get the following situation: the games would get more tense, as more and more survivors get hooked, repairing gens gets harder and harder the longer the trial takes place, but there is always the hope and possibility of managing to repairing them all, as the killer can't risk killing off a survivor early, or they would lose all their defenses. Both sides players would stay in the game and we would get more interesting matches instead of matches where on side steamrolls the other.

Literally nobody in this thread said anything about slugging. Well, no, that's a lie. One person brought up slugging to acknowledge it wasn't fun and was getting out of hand.

I don't see anything about gen rush, either.

You understand that when you project that hard, accuse everyone else of being both biased and bad when they don't automatically agree with you, and throw around such extreme numbers… nobody who isn't extremely biased will take you seriously, yes?

I die in the vast majority of my survivor matches, and gates only get powered maybe one in every five or six games. There's a problem and I don't think it's entirely me. But fragility and ego? Right now, at least, that particular issue lies with your perception.

It's really funny to claim that Killers are the ones who are fragile and full of ego when the this topic is literally a survivor wanting to ban killers for playing the game.

Is it possible for you to make even a single comment that isn't dripping with "us vs them" toxicity? You're contributing nothing to the discussion other than lobbing bombs at the side you don't play.

I wonder how you read that into any of the comments here, least of all mine with a big explaination and several possbile solution.

This leaves only the most obvious option: you don't care to discuss at all, but just want to meddle and accuse the other side, no matter the arguement. Thats not cool, at least try to discuss.

Posts like this are so incredibly counterproductive.

I wish BHVR would make game changes to make tunneling less effective. But the idea that people should be required to play in certain ways, even though the game allows those styles of play, are counterproductive.

If something in the game is too strong / broken / unfun, reserve your complaints for BHVR.