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Swf and lobbies.

The matchmaking will be fixed eventually, everyone see there is problem with it.

I also see problem with swf and how its now impossible to tell when its swf or not. There should be icons above survivors who are swf. With current queue implementation almost noone will dodge, so that's not a problem. Why? Every time i just want to chill with random or unusual perk with crappy or none addons at all i face those sweaty voice comm swf. Playing trapper or hag especially is nightmare without op addons. Then after frustrating match i see another 4 people joining together all with items so i take killer i'm confident with and addons i like... just to end the game with 0 effort because it turned out survivors were not even swf and had really crappy perks/items. Games like the second one are not fun for anyone, not even killers. 

If killers could see swf, they could take better stuff against team and no stuff against non swf. At least that's what i would do. Honestly i think this is main reason why you see Billy so much, he is just effective and not that hard to play as people say. Why play others when you will get punished hard for it? Don't get me wrong, i like challenges but this is very unfair for solo players. This is also reason 3/4 swf team should only get killers higher in ranking than their avarage rank.

Ps: Decisive is overnerfed. Just remove its ability to make survivor obsession at the start of the trial (unless there is no other obsession perk), so killers can never be sure. Ultimate anti tunnel mind game. As for now we can just slug after tunnel if there is any obsession in game. 

Comments

  • MagicalYummies
    MagicalYummies Member Posts: 29

    What is the matter with SWF? I always play with my friends because that makes me have fun.

    I’m supposed to not play with my friends because it’s “unfair” then?

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,302

    The problem with showing swf is some would setup to try and combat them and some would simply dodge the lobby.

    They really can't implement a system where a side can cherry pick the games they play in as it means longer queues for player who paid the same amount for the game.

    This is the reason survivors had the option to see the killers profile removed, they abused it and dodged those who had certain achievements for say the nurse.

    Swf is here to stay so it's on the devs to balance swf in the game but not by making it harder for them to find matches as that is bad for business.

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    I see nothing wrong with SWF for the purpose it's made to be. but Dead By Daylight is a game. Why use SWF to upset the killer? Just play the game as it was supposed to.

  • HeHeBoii
    HeHeBoii Member Posts: 507

    I like to use Legion, especially against SWFs. It's almost like I am a magician because they disappear almost instantly when they see me. Entitlement is real out here boys and gals.

  • HazeHound
    HazeHound Member Posts: 814
    edited March 2019

    @twistedmonkey With the queue system i doubt that many people will dodge, waste of time.

    @MagicalYummies i'm fine with this, but this game was created and 'balanced' arround 4 randos against killer. If none of 4 players are exceptionally bad and all of them use kindred (which im fine with, use perk for it) or are in voice comm game ends in less than 5 minutes with one or none person dead. Of course there are exceptions, but i have very easy time when i play with my friends. Read my entire post why i think solo players are hurt the most, because there are actually more than you think of a players who don't want to just escape but to "bully" which is easy as 4man squad. Not having ability to tell full swf from random game makes killers use crutch killers/perks/addons every game so they have chance if they face such team. Playing random perks on low tier killers is just pain when facing such teams. Lets be honest here, do you have fun playing constantly against noed Billies and Nurses?

    @Sairek Share most of the thoughts

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    The problem is that after 3 years, the devs still are not even trying to balance the game around voice comms.

    If the killer used a 3rd party program to reveal you location, then you would be upset aswell, wouldn't you?

  • Cymer
    Cymer Member Posts: 946
    edited March 2019

    The problem SWF present is not that you play with your friends.

    We all love our friends and we wish you the merriest of time with your friends.

    What we don't like is unfair games.

    SWF tend to share additional information via voice, yes voice is not exclusive for SWF, but it can alter the game. There is no way to detect this or counter it.

    If it would be clear from the beginning what game we all are playing we can agree and accept this and prepare accordingly.

    If you go Deerstalker, Knockout and Hex: Third Seal (or any blind / hex) and want to split the survivors up one by one, you cannot do this against SWF, so you basically loose 2-3 perks just by facing SWF/voice.

    Your choice to play with a friend prohibits indirectly what I can play effectively.

    I know it is childish, but no one likes things getting taken away from them, especially when you cannot prepare for it.

    This inconsistency and uncertainty is the main cause of frustration and salt in this game.

    In my eyes you have all the rights to play with your friend, but for a mid rank or low rank killer it is unfunny to face a veteran of the game without a heads-up.

    Just turn the table, how fun would it be for rank 15 survivors, recently started to play the game facing rank 1 killers?

    We recently went through a new matchmaking that exactly made this happen and the outcry of the community was so immense, that the devs reverted it.


    I don't blame any SWF, I even enjoy playing with friends, but it destabilize the spirit of the game.

    I wish the game would get balanced around voice and SWF, give the solos the option to join the voice with an easy connection to discord and adjust the killers accordingly.


    The game was intended as a horror game and isolation was a major theme in it, but the community developed in a different direction and the game needs to follow or make a decision.

    I recently asking around what excites players of DBD and it seams that spooky, scary Killers are the most enjoyed ones on both sides.

    I am not from BHVR, but I would love to see a heavier emphasis on atmosphere and spooky killers like Myers, Spirit and roaring Pig.

  • ColgateAdvancedWhite
    ColgateAdvancedWhite Member Posts: 616

    The game is balanced with swf in mind. I think most lobbies are somewhat comprised of 1 partial or complete swf team.

  • HazeHound
    HazeHound Member Posts: 814

    @ColgateAdvancedWhite lmao, bad troll?

  • ColgateAdvancedWhite
    ColgateAdvancedWhite Member Posts: 616

    ????