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Will there something be done about body blocking????
Does this game have to be 100 years old before the Devs do something about body blocking????? I just had a matched where I wanted to play normally, the killer wanted to farm. I did the gens and didn't want to play along because it's a Michael and I have zero interest going down the all survivors get 4-man slugged at the end or die to NOED, surprise surprise (have this happen enough times to want to prevent it). That meant it was okay for 2 teammates and the killer to body block at gate. LOVE THIS GAME.
<b>Edit</b>: a lot of people in the thread are missing the point. I'm NOT asking whether this should be bannable or reported or not. I'm saying that bodyblocking in scenarios like this, to the point of you getting crows should NOT be able to happen. You should lose collision at that point.
I didn't raise a question about teammates working with the killer, because I already know that those things can be reported.
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The body blocking happened only during the EGC? Sure it's scummy, but least the EGC was active and will force the game to end so not as bad. Would've been bannable offense if the EGC wasn't active.
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In this particular scenario, I'm afraid it's not a bannable offense, as the game can and will end within a given timeframe. That, of course, does not mean it isn't a scummy thing to do.
As for solutions, I've already mentioned this in other threads, but survivors losing collission when they have AFK crows seems like it would solve so many instances of actually problematic bodyblocking…
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ECG or not this shouldn't be possible. It really isn't fun to die at the exit gate like that because you don't want to farm.
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What are you talking about? Its clearly a bannable offense (working with the killer).
The survivor can be banned for that.
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While I would say it is bannable (working with the Killer), I am baffled that the solution of Survivors losing collision when they get AFK Crows was not implemented yet. It is the perfect solution for this and will not really impact regular gameplay at all.
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Mandy has said before that in EGC it's not actionable unfortunately. I agree it sucks. I refuse to farm too but have only once or twice been punished by the other players for it. One time was by two of my team mates and thankfully the killer wasn't happy on my behalf and killed both those players and let me escape.
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Not sure if you've ever reported survivors for working with the killer but in my experience nothing is done about that unfortunately. I've spent time recording and uploading info several times and working with the killer has consistently never resulted in even a slap on the wrist. I'd be surprised if anyone has ever been banned for that offence.
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While I dislike survivors like that with a passion, the fault lays with the game, because it allows them to do so.
Why is it bannable yet so easy to do for players? Maybe prevent it instead of making it bannable.
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Working with the killer is.
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This feels like a bannable action by the survivors since they were working with the killer to force the player into a loss.
But others here have said it's not bannable. I don't know that I would bother to report this, but I do wonder why the survivors wouldn't get a brief 'slap on the wrist' ban for it. Sounds like you've tried and the team reviewing it in the past didn't care?
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For body blocking? Yes, they could make it so you lose collision after a certain amount of time. But I guess since they've said it's valid in EGC they're probably hesitant to touch that
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I have +/-4k in this game and have seen this happen often enough to decide to make a post about it. If you don't have anything of value to contribute then maybe don't, considering this doesn't concern you. Perhaps you're the type to work with killers and grieve teammates.
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Do you have a source for that please? I am very sure what you are quoting is talking about a different situation that doesn't apply here.
Bodyblocking the Killer as Survivor = no problem (unless it's some kind of exploit where the Killer is unable to hit you but also becomes unable to move because of you)
Bodyblocking Survivors as Killer = only a problem if you do it for a long period of time, because then it becomes holding the game hostage
Bodyblocking Survivors as Killer during endgame = not a problem because the game is progressing, it's not holding the game hostage
Bodyblocking other Survivors as Survivor = griefing / holding the game hostage (if it's done for too long - if it's briefly/on accident then obviously not a problem)
Working with the Killer and bodyblocking another Survivor = not holding the game hostage in this case because of the endgame timer, but it is working with the Killer, which is against the rules (https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/articles/4408581146516-What-actions-will-result-in-a-temporary-ban - "GRIEFING: INTENTIONAL GAMEPLAY ABUSE")
If the Survivors can only bodyblock because the Killer is also helping, then maybe the Killer is also violating the rules (= working together with the Survivors, but not holding the game hostage). The other Survivors for sure though are working with the Killer, and the endgame timer being active doesn't matter for that rule.
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I'm not sure what you mean by me talking about a different situation. OPs complaint is being bodyblocked, and since it is EGC it won't be actionable. The killer working with survivors is another issue (that OP didn't raise, others did).
If you want the sources re the claim i made (regarding EGC bodyblockin)g, I've attached them here
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It's not reportable since it's during EGC, but it is honestly embarrassing that BHVR haven't done something about stuff like this already. Why blocking people like this purely to grief is still possible is absurd. All they need to do is make it so survivors with crows lose collision, that's it. It would have zero impact on regular gameplay, and even if it did once in a thousand games, it would be well worth it for the many times it would solve issues like this.
It's the easily fixable, incredibly frustrating pain points like this that make people not take BHVR seriously when they ask for Labor of Love.
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Well I guess next time you don't want to be fooled by a friendly killer, don't gen rush and just search for dull totems instead. xD
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The thing is, there is no real evidence, not even anecdotally, of anyone getting banned or even reprimanded for working with the killer in this mild manners. Maybe if you ran around with Bond and let the killer to ALL the survivors, but in basiacally all other instances, I guess its filed as some "survival strategy".
On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be banned as the killer, just because a survivor pointed at ONE locker at the end of the game, and there just happens to be a survivor in that one. "Working with the killer" is pretty wide and undefined, so that it offers a lot of wriggle room, and thats probably so that some leeway is given, but at least in theory, the very blatant culprits could be banned, if needed.
Indeed! The loosing collision solution seems so obvious, that I am equally baffled by this. BHVR probably has their reasons, something along the lines of "this leads to more interesting plays" or whatever, but I still don't get it, and even after 3k hours of playing I can't come up with any situation that warrents the countless other misserable and vibe-killing moments.
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That wasn't the point of my post. The point was that body-blocking in instances where like this, where you get crows, should make you lose collision or something else to solve the matter. I didn't raise as a question about whether this is or should be bannable or can be reported or not.
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I'm not asking whether it's reportable or not. I don't think that game "mechanics" like this should be possible when they are reportable and some even bannable. You would think that as a Dev you would want to prevent this specific type of grieving from happening in the first place, instead of making it so that players can report it. Like how hard is it to make a survivor with crows lose collision?
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Could be even less tbh. There's no reason to bodyblock a player for that long.
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Tbf that wasn't clear in your initial post (it's good you edited it). If you'd mentioned losing collision in the OP then the conversation would have been different as alot of the community agree that should be a thing. Even if they did implement it, whether it would still be active in EGC would be anyone's guess though since EGC seems to be anything goes these days.
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Thanks, but the first and second post by Mandy (from the top, first and third total in the images) only mention the Killer doing it presumably by themself, while OP was being blocked by other Survivors and the Killer. Without context I can't tell if the other posts are in reply to Survivors bodyblocking other Survivors, or only the Killer doing it.
As I understand it the situation here is different, Survivors blocking another Survivor. The Killer is also bodyblocking, but that is allowed during endgame.
From my perspective:
- Survivors bodyblocking each other is against the rules (griefing). I don't think it becomes OK to do as soon as the endgame starts. I agree that it is not holding the game hostage, but that doesn't mean it is not griefing
- Working with the Killer is also against the rules. It seems like the situation OP was in was only possible because the Survivors and Killer were teaming up
Killer blocking a Survivor by themself is allowed during endgame, but unless I misread your post you are saying a Survivor blocking another Survivor during endgame is allowed.
I don't think that's correct. It's not holding the game hostage, but that doesn't mean it doesn't violate the rules.
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