How has Onryu not been nerfed?

That's her game. Spamming teleport vs turning off TVs. Just two days ago someone made a thread from the opposite side survivors face no consequence for turning off TVs which makes me sad because I can't teleport.

Your mistake was not dodging the Midwich offering.

Midwich is the only two maps where Onryo works properly. it is one of her best maps if not the best map. Outside of the two maps, she is not good. whenever I play Onryo, i only play on Midwich.

the player isn't complaining about gideon. they're complaining about Midwich Elementary school. your refusing to read anything. Dev will not rework Gideon's. there is not anything functionally wrong with the map.

I read. Thx. Midwich is her second best map. I read your reply and you said: "Midwich is the only two maps where Onryo works properly."

To that I say, that she works on many more maps. You might just play her the wrong way. She generally works great on any indoor map. They tend to be either small or have multiple floors. Both aspects heavily favour condemned. On top of that, the nature of them being indoor maps favours them as well due to her being a stealth killer.

So here is a ranking of her best indoor maps:

• 1) Gideon
• 2) Midwich, Rpd (both)
• 3) Lery's, Hawkins

She also works on many other maps that are generally not too pallet heavy like Wreckers yard.

I said whats awful about Gideon meat plant. Maybe you should consider reading more thouroughly? Gideon meat plant is the single most horribly designed map in dbd. Its either a free win for the killer if their equipped properly, or a free win for the survivors if the killer isnt. As explained earlier, the map makes some killers and perks exponentially stronger. Way stronger than they have any right to be. This makes balancing them really hard.

If you cant see that than I genuinelly dont know what to tell you.

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Just wanna point out dude... the video is embedded, which means its properly supported by the forums via an appropriate official plugin, in this case, youtube... you can play it without leaving the website at all...

Also would like to mention fun is subjective. I actually found playing vs. Sadako 3.0 quite fun myself, since I know how condemn works and use proper counterplay... but most survivors don't and get run over.

With good survivors Sadako is quite toothless, but that is somewhat tempered by the fact a lot of survivors suck, so usually the challenge is maintained. When I go up against a Sadako that really knows what they're doing and they hit me with a God Bloody Fingernails read or a perfect demanifest mind game, I often get legit hyped out of respect for the play.

Sluzzy is neither imaginary nor would I say I'm friends with them. Though their posts are entertaining.

Thinking about your theory of me hacking the forums… I would have needed to find a way to embed a video that isn't actually on a supported platform on the forums and then also make it look like it's youtube video, while somehow tracking your IP or installing malware on your device without you ever leaving this site. I'm not even sure, if that is possible.

Thanks for the compliment though. I must be pretty smart to do that.

Pay 2 Win

Getting condemn in mainly under the control of the survivor. Greeting gens is what get survivors kill against sadako most of the times.

TS peice is broken it's no comparison.

Sluzzy actually put effort into their bits. These posts are nothin compared to the legend

Sadako doesn't usually get to mori like that unless you ignore the condemn and TV mechanics. I highly suggest picking a tape and depositing it quite often to avoid being moriable by her.

Like Chucky, she was fine at launch. Both should’ve never been touched.

Really they just need to punish HOLDING the tape for long periods of time. There is no downside to holding it. I think something like, she needs 7 stacks of condemned to kill right? But we don't want to punish picking up a tape and running to a tv to put it in or being chased. So make it work like deep wounds.

If the survivor is running with the tape, nothing bad happens, but if they don't run, they gain 1 stack every 15 seconds. That way survivors can still grab a tape, hold it, and do half a gen before they get into the danger territory, but they can't just grab a tape and hold it forever. But if the killer is chasing someone with a tape, or the survivor is running to a TV, then they aren't punished for being chased by the killer, or for trying to do the tape.

there is punishment for holding the tape. you gain 1 stack per hook if sadako has ring drawing. the issue is survivors turning off TV→Turn off your power. there is no flexibility for killer player to be successful. only flexibility for survivor to be successful at deleting the ability. the older versions fixed this problem by allowing sadako to slug in first iteration giving killer some opportunity to express skill and than this was removed version 2 but they allowed killer to express skill using the tapes. As a result of these two mechanics being in killer control, survivor could never completely deleted her power entirely like it is now.

I would say like, current sadako, but with this feature. Current sadako is fine if survivors don't HOLD tapes (obviously they need to collect them) but if you have 4 survivors who all immediately grab a tape there's not much you can do, a bunch of your tvs are off, you can't teleport around and you can't add condemn. From there maybe they could look at reducing the time tvs stay off, but basically yeah.

You can't hold a tape forever to prevent getting condemn unless you are actively running, which means you are getting chased, and that's fine. The problem is a survivor grabbing a tape, which turns off a tv, and makes them immune to condemn and then just doing a gen.

She's not difficult to counter. All you have to do is take tapes and turn off TVs, they stay off for a long time. If you're going to do a gen, turn off the TV near it first. Even if you pick up 1 condemned stack for turning it off, that's well worth it compared to leaving it on and letting her build condemned on you for free every time she teleports.

As long as you remain diligent about using tapes and shutting TVs off you will massively slow down her condemn pressure and significantly hamper her mobility from teleporting.

Like many in this thread stated, just take a tape from the nearest tv. Youre safe from condemn as long as you arent near a tv thats on. Spamming tp is a tech that utilizes her power to maximum effiency and denying counterplay. Always pick up a tape as soon as the tvs turn on. Its not an option like how current freddys power is.

Shes not a strong killer. She has no gen pressure, mid chase pressure, and shes an m1 killer. Imo, shes one of the hardest killers to maximize her power because its so easy to deny her power. Just like its easy to stack her condemn if she spams. Vice versa.

As to the map offering, i cant blame an onryo that burns midwich offering. That is one of her strongest maps. Easily, the funnest map you can play her on cause of the tv spawns and floors.

The Onion isn't the problem. It's a lack of knowledge of how she plays, combined with solo queue's inability to communicate with each other.

I feel like BHVR needs to find some way of giving survivors enough information, so that even solo queue players can piece things together and form a strategy mid-match. Basic things like coordinating against a gen patrol Doctor is painful in solo, let alone other killers like Larry.

Gives survivors more info, so killers can have more interesting kits, whilst not creating killers that exclusively stomp solo players.

no always. i played a game where i did like 50 tape runs and still got moried. if the killer knows what theyre doing it's GGs. she shouldn't be nerfed tho