yay guys, more anti-killer changes coming soon

I'm assuming a form of basekit DS. It's the only deterrence to tunnelling that will work. Maybe even a 2 second stun basekit with DS as a perk adding 2 seconds. And maybe a DS rework where it will remove all charges from the killer power if possible as an additional deterrence (Nurse wouldnt be able to double blink right after a DS and Blight wont be able to dash. Slinger, Clown, Huntress and Trickster would need to reload, that kinda stuff). It wouldnt really interfere with tunnelling too much, but it would be really annoying for the killer to tunnel to the point that its better to just wait for their target to touch a gen first.

Anti-camp would probably have an extended 8-16 meters to prevent people from cheesing it, or they would disable killer powers in general for a certain amount of time if they are within the range of a freshly unhooked survivor. (Hag, Bubba, Trapper, Trickster and Twins are 3 killers that can just wait right outside the anti-camp range and still eat through basekit bt as if it was a cookie). That wouldnt apply once all gens are gone so those killers can still guarantee a kill, they just no longer can guarantee trading hookstates. This would obviously have to come with something like basekit 10% pain res on all hooks when survivors are hooked for the first time.

Anti-slug will hopefully just be tenacity basekit (crawl and recover at the same time, and maybe a bit more crawlspeed) and a way for 2 slugged survivors to pick each other up as a deterrence for mass slugging. That's all slugging genuinely needs in the current meta. Killers would be forced to hook or risk losing all pressure.

Another really good anti-tunnel mechanic would to simply be disabling gen regression/gen blocking perks once 1 survivor dies, while boosting their powers by 25%-50%. The number 1 issue I have with Pain Res and Grim Embrace is that a killer could tunnel out a survivor at 4 gens, and still proc 40 seconds of Grim Embrace. Force killers to choose between getting 40 seconds of Grim Embrace and Gen regression perks, or killing a survivor, and most would want to keep those perks as long as they can untill they feel forced to get a kill.

I predict they'll increase the hook camping distance for killers with ranged attacks and add a HUD symbol for the camping bar to help solo queue players.

Giving Trapper a digging bar weapon customization would significantly help with tunneling.

And yet, killers who have much more potential, havent gained skill much. Because they didnt need to, because they could rely on slugging and tunnelling instead of being forced to get better.

If you placed modern killers to old DBD, those survivors would never win either. I mean, just patch 1.4. Grab Billy, get a mori easily as its his only iridescent thing he can get from the bloodweb (especially since prestige 3 increases the rate of iridescents). Grab Insidious to prevent BT from happening. Grab Dying Light, Thanatophobia(as that worked with dead survivors too back then) and Tinkerer(cus that increases charge speed). Wait for the random Laurie to unhook. M1 the unhooked survivor and mori them. Now you have a permanent 75% gen progression penalty on survivors at 4 gens remaining. Congrats, now you have generators that take 5 minutes EACH to complete.

Really, modern players would wreck the opponents.

I would like to know why "Gen Rushing" is Survivors completing their objective efficiently. It sounds so nice. However, when a Killer completes his objectives "efficiently", it's "camping" and "tunneling" and we're everything wrong with the game.

I mean, I'm not going to judge too harshly because we haven't seen any proposed changes, but it sounds like "anti-strategy" changes for the killer. Even the top tier killers will tell you that in the highest MMR's camping/tunneling/slugging can be necessary to slow the game down. We'll see, but as a Killer, it doesn't sound like it's going to be very "balanced".

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Killers will probably take a significant strength hit but at the same time this will allow them to put more power into killers in different ways. I'm very skeptical on their implementation of these mechanics and whether or not they will punish the killer excessively. I'm still optimistic this will turn killer gameplay more into a chase focus mindset instead of playing 3v1 simulator or bust.

I see, my post is more-so directed at challenging the notion of slugging being utilized due to second chance perks and gen regression nerfs. If that was the case, it would have been a thing after the Eruption nerf. It would have been a thing after the Pain Resonance and Pop nerf, yet it started directly when the Mori was introduced.

I'm not inherently against the Mori decision, but it obviously pushes people to slug more for the 4k as the killer gets the satisfaction of seeing a mori. I've went against killers who will slug everyone, wait 'til everyone bleeds out, and sits on a person to get the grand finale of a played out mori that we've seen hundreds of times by now.

1 in 100 or 1 in 75 is quite low for someone to repeatedly see meta survivors. In my games, I see many survivors running many different builds. I hardly if ever see a full 2-man or 3-man (I solo queue and duo queue now) and I don't see the meta that you see when I play survivor. That's why I mentioned unless you're going against 4-man SWFs all the time, it's not an issue. You win back to back games, your MMR goes up, and you will face more SWF teams as that's where they are located on the MMR totem pole.

The point that I stress is that we win some games and we lose some games.

I have games where my teammates die and DC and I switch to a somewhat more meta build to compensate it. I would argue that killer perks and playstyles are far more dominant than a survivor as a killer primarily dictates how a game progresses (if they're skilled). They can choose to slug off rip, they can choose to tunnel and camp at will.

The worst thing a survivor has is what? Gen progression by splitting up? Anti-tunnel that can be negated by simply hitting them and removing it unless DS is involved? Flashlight saves that can be negated with Lightborn anyways? (I don't think Lightborn is a problem unlike other survivors). Hook saves that are negated because hooks spawn relatively close to one another and the killer can 360 a few steps to hook anyways?

If you're going to bring up Reassurance and Shoulder the Burden, most of these perks are the most strong in SWF. They do nothing for solo-queue due to the lack of coordination.

As I've said on the forums, I don't use Reassurance because I've had a random solo-queue survivor attempt to suicide when I did it to them. It does nothing for solo-queue, only strong in SWF. What perks are much stronger compared to meta killer perks (conversation needs to include killer as certain killers dominate, especially against solo-queue.)

Because there are no other decent options. Thanatophobia and Butcher have been trashed by spec changes and numerical nerfs, and Irruption and Overcharge have become significantly harder to use due to Gen Kick restrictions.