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Another Post About Legion Buffs (Legion Rework/Buff Ideas)
Really Feel like Legion deserves a buff not willing to argue just a quick question no harm!!
if you were to buff or Rework Legion what would you add?
As always I love you guys!
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Glad it gave you a chuckle :)
In all honesty, a slight movement speed increase while in fatigue would be nice, maybe a slight increase in movement speed as well.
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I'd like to see increased movement speed, blood pools in Frenzy, and the ability for vault speed bonuses to affect Frenzy once again.
Buffs/Reworks to the less effective addons would be very nice too. BFFs, Frank's and Joey's Mix Tape etc.
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the biggest buff you can give to Legion is a sentient player behind the screen
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Great additions I think this would be nice as well although I wasn't around for the "vault speed bonuses" can you tell me what those are
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😭This made me laugh but I don't fully agree, but I respect it thanks for your input
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Much prefer a nerf
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Perks like Bamboozle and Fire Up would buff the actual Frenzy Vault speed itself. This got removed with the addition of Wesker for consistency's sake, as they didn't want Wesker's vault being affected by these perks for fear of it being too strong.
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Its not about it being too strong, its to keep things consistent with perks not having an impact with powers.
Besides, I dont think that interaction with Legion was intended in the first place
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Yeah that'd be amazing too would love that I feel like it isn't that much of a broken thing as vault speed will affect the timer being paused faster vault less timer pause when vaulting
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It was about it being too strong on Wesker, which then lead to Legion having it removed as collateral.
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Personally, I would like 2 extra seconds of Frenzy. In other words, for Mischief List to be made base-kit. I hate that Survivors can simply run out my power and I feel like it's a mandatory add-on if you want to have any hope of chaining hits consistently against split up Survivors. You don't really have a power unless the Survivors group up together. Mischief List wouldn't need changing imho, but I guess they could nerf it to 1 second.
I would also like to see Joey's mix-tape give Legion the ability to see pools of blood while in Frenzy. In addition, blood pools should appear in bright red for extra tracking abilities. Currently, there's no good reason to run this add-on other than for the vibes (it sounds great paired with Julie's, Susie's and Fuming mix-tapes, btw).
I know some want to see a shorter cooldown for exiting power and a faster movement speed in fatuigue, but I don't really think Legion should be made into a better 1V1 Killer (at least not as base-kit). I think a majority of Survivors would hate that, just like they hated OG Chucky who was essentially just a 1V1 Legion.
Least controversial would be for Frank's mix-tape to be made base-kit. Its effect is so incredibly weak, especially for a purple add-on. I think Legion mains near universally agree with this change. Frank's Mix-Tape could then be reworked into a vaulting speed add-on, which I think most Legion players would also like to see. Especially since BHVR don't seem to want to allow perks to increase the Legion's Frenzy vaults.
Fire Up does in fact currently increase window Frenzy vaults and has done for a while, although I'm unsure if this an intended effect or not. Undocumented change or just a bug?
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No, it wasnt. It was purely meant for consistency. Why would vault speed perks work but then remove the interaction with things like Exposed and Sloppy with special attacks? Or Brutal/Fire Up not affecting pallet breaks with Demo, Nemesis, Blight, etc? Or Coup de Grace not working with powers that have a lunge like Demo and Pig? Its to make sure perks dont have an effect with powers. Theyve removed all of these in the past, and Legion is no exception
EDIT: Just want to mention that except for the pallet break interactions, all of these at some point did have interactions with powers.
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Faster Frenzy speed or longer power duration, or both.
The ability to see blood pools in frenzy.
Shorter stun and fatique.
And an add-on pass.
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Blood pools in Frenzy is honestly all they need. I remember pre buff legion we are in a good spot now
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It wasn't just wesker's power though that caused this, it was specifically his Superior Anatomy perk that was added.
People were running Superior Anatomy and bamboozle, along with things like fire up and specific add-ons to literally break the game.
I think it was wraith who could get vault speed down to something obscene like 0.3 seconds, and the vault animation literally took longer than the actual vaulting time. For reference, that's like twice as fast as a survivor fast vault and I think people were also getting stuck because of the animation breaking.
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Superior Anatomy never actually worked properly with Legion's power. There's also never been any addons that affect Legion's vault speed.
The situation you mentioned with Wraith is still entirely possible. Same with Myers, but slightly less so.
If they don't want to add back Vault Speed perks affecting Legion's power, they should at least create an addon that buffs their Vault Speed.
It's still kind of a grey area, considering there's a couple of powers that buff Vault Speed directly, and still work just fine with Bamboozle and the like.
Exposed and Sloppy have never worked on Special Attacks either. It's just that individual killers have had their power attack changed from being considered Basic to Special. Nurse, Legion and Pig to name a few specifically. Killers like Deathslinger and Spirit still have power attacks that are considered Basic.
Legion's Vault Speed buff was intended, they even added text specifically to Bamboozle to clarify that it wouldn't block pallets for a reason. It was only when Wesker rolled around that they eventually decided against it.
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Sloppy did in fact used to work back in the day with Billy and Bubba, but all it did was apply Hemorrhage which only increased bleeding at the time. Also no other powers get affected with the vault speed increase from Bambam
There's also a very clear difference from a special attack and a basic attack performed after their power. The latter uses the basic blade wipe animation after performed (Wraith, Spirit and Slinger are the only ones I believe) and special attacks go into some form of fatigue or special blade wipe (Think of Pig and Blight for example) . Once they clearly defined what a basic attack was, Pig and Legion lost their ability to use basic attack perks with their powers. All that remained was Nurse, which was also changed later on.
I can't find the exact patch where they removed Bambam from working with Legion, but I did find this:
There is 0 reason as to why Bam would work, but Superior wouldn't. It would stray even further from them trying to be consistent.
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I absolutely love everything said here no disagreements here
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+2 seconds to frenzy duration
frenzy speed buff from 5.2 to 5.8
recovery from ability to 2.25 or 2.50s (seriously, blight with his enormous strength with no addons has 2.5s recovery (and 2s with Canker Thorn), why does legion have 3s?)Frank's Mix Tape basic set
Mb shortening a deep wound from 12 to 8 seconds
Addon pass
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The blight thing is so real
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Personally, I would like for the scratched ruler add-on to become basekit and for every person who plays legion, myself included, to be an actual player and not an NPC (everybody who I know plays Legion, myself as well, play like an NPC)
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I'm not sure Fatigue could realistically go any lower without being OP. Blight may be really fast but he can't go over pallets or windows.
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