Let's talk about Kate Densen's Perks

To be honest, Dance With Me is a pretty good perk, maybe not alone but can confuse a killer. It has a good combo with Quick and Quiet and Lithe and if you want it, iron will. Make a jump, boop, where am I?
About Windows Of Oportunity, I agree with your point. Anyways I consider it a bit bad since it has a big cool down, we also need to consider this is a green perk.
Then Boil Over is not thaaat bad. It can make the killer an struggle to hook you, and maybe sometimes he will eat some walls before hooking you, giving you more time to escape. I would consider the obscuring aura, but I don't know if the killer still gets an alert when a survivor is unhooked, in this case, this perk is 2/5.

@SasukeKun said:

@Jack11803 said:
I think all 3 are complete ass and need a buff. And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.

I saved up 2 mil blood points because i was excited for her and yeah im somewhat mega disappointed, at least i can have another pretty survivor

you saved 2 million bloodpoints?

@SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Jack11803 said:
I think all 3 are complete ass and need a buff. And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.

I saved up 2 mil blood points because i was excited for her and yeah im somewhat mega disappointed, at least i can have another pretty survivor

you saved 2 million bloodpoints?

yeah i got to the capp twice

oh i thought you meant in one go, was ready to flip

SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Jack11803 said:
I think all 3 are complete ass and need a buff. And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.

I saved up 2 mil blood points because i was excited for her and yeah im somewhat mega disappointed, at least i can have another pretty survivor

you saved 2 million bloodpoints?

yeah i got to the capp twice

oh i thought you meant in one go, was ready to flip

How do you think i felt after spending all them points on Boil Over? lmao. I wish it increased the wiggle speed, it would be useful then, since Iron Grasp SLOWS the wiggle Speed

SasukeKun said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:
SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Jack11803 said:

I think all 3 are complete ass and need a buff. And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.

I saved up 2 mil blood points because i was excited for her and yeah im somewhat mega disappointed, at least i can have another pretty survivor

you saved 2 million bloodpoints?

yeah i got to the capp twice

oh i thought you meant in one go, was ready to flip

How do you think i felt after spending all them points on Boil Over? lmao. I wish it increased the wiggle speed, it would be useful then, since Iron Grasp SLOWS the wiggle Speed

Peeps agreed increasing wiggle speed is op, prob wont get into the game. Free escape for survivors? We don't need that lol. I say that as a survivor main. That will force iron grasp, survivors have free dstrike, selfcare which kills the need for medkits, etc. I'd like more perks that require skill and creativity like dance with me, stakeout, wakeup. Kate's windows perk helps you avoid running into dead zones, some pallets you can't see are used unless you're in a certain angle from them, so that time wasted going to it could cost you a down so windows helps to remove some wasted routing and helps give information to people not playing in a swf group

I understand it would force it but overall it's just not useful in any sorts unl;ess you by chance get an enclosed map

Aari_Piggy66 said:

Dance with me: Unless you're really on point with your timing and really lucky I wouldn't recommend the combination of sprint burst and dance with me. Dance with me works best way with Lithe combined with quick and quiet plus iron will or lightweight depending on your choice.


Windows Of Opportunity:  Like you said it's really helpful for new players. It's also really good for veteran players when it comes to late mid or end game when most of the pallets have been used up. Finally it's a really nice perk for anyone who uses Lithe so they know where vault locations are most of the time.

Boil Over: This perk is an odd one it seems to really only be helpful on a Sabo build or on swamp maps. But when I was testing it I've seen some decent success with the Memorial Institute because people tend to be more reliant on the hook auras on that map because the walls and rooms block line of sight with hooks.

SasukeKun said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:
SasukeKun said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:

SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Kuris said:

@SasukeKun said:

@Jack11803 said:

I think all 3 are complete ass and need a buff. And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.



I saved up 2 mil blood points because i was excited for her and yeah im somewhat mega disappointed, at least i can have another pretty survivor



you saved 2 million bloodpoints?



yeah i got to the capp twice



oh i thought you meant in one go, was ready to flip



How do you think i felt after spending all them points on Boil Over? lmao. I wish it increased the wiggle speed, it would be useful then, since Iron Grasp SLOWS the wiggle Speed

Peeps agreed increasing wiggle speed is op, prob wont get into the game. Free escape for survivors? We don't need that lol. I say that as a survivor main. That will force iron grasp, survivors have free dstrike, selfcare which kills the need for medkits, etc. I'd like more perks that require skill and creativity like dance with me, stakeout, wakeup. Kate's windows perk helps you avoid running into dead zones, some pallets you can't see are used unless you're in a certain angle from them, so that time wasted going to it could cost you a down so windows helps to remove some wasted routing and helps give information to people not playing in a swf group

I understand it would force it but overall it's just not useful in any sorts unl;ess you by chance get an enclosed map

Thats true but not all perks are gonna be uber, most peeps use same three or four perks any because they are viable almost anytime. Good to have some perks situational, for variety. Windows and dance are the best ones. Wiggling faster is stupid op and game breaking. That and dstrike in the game? Survivors dont need gaurantee escape. Easy mode

D strike was part of Halloween, you've sen the movie right?

Esheon said:

I think people underestimate Boil Over because the effects are mostly invisible to the survivor. I've seen multiple cases on streams/videos where the killer walked past an obvious hook because there was no aura, and several cases where the extra movement knocked the killer off course significantly.

Personally, it's helped me twice that I remember, even though I've only used it in KYF matches (I haven't leveled up Kate at all for ranked games). Once on Grim Pantry it made the killer fall through one of the holes in the larger building, which allowed me to wiggle off before he could get to a hook. Another was in Lery's, he walked right past an obvious hook and got palletslammed trying to reach what he thought was the closest hook. On one of Space Coconut's videos, there was a clear case of him walking past a hook on the bottom floor of the Game and running into several barriers, giving the survivor enough time to wriggle off.

WraithJT said:

I was really excited about Boil Over when I first read about it. Then I got to use it, and well... it was bad.

When I play killer and see the little status icon for Boil Over, I just laugh at the poor survivor using a useless perk. About the only use it has is on Lery's and Game maps to make hooks on the other side of walls disappear.

I almost feel like the hook hiding on Boil Over should be inverted and hide hooks outside of a certain range. Most of the time, if a hook is inside BO's range, the killer can just see it with their eyes, but if you get downed away from hooks and it hid ones that were outside ~10 meters, that could be useful. Maybe.

@Jack11803 said:
And for clown, the healing perk is just another distressing doc perk.

Well no, also I think you mean 'Overwhelming presence', not distressing, since the latter is the one that increases terror radius and bp gain and overwhelming presence is the one that increases item consumption rate. The clown coulrophobia perk slows down healing of survivors within terror radius by 50%, whether they have item or not, so it affects self care- healing teammates, and medkits, not just the kits. So it's barely the same thing. And overwhelming presence doesn't low down the item action speed it, just consumes it faster.